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Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
Wideman and the 35th is worth a 7th round pick salary dump move. No thanks. Bickell type offer
- sditulli


Well I agree the wideman offers need to stop, he is no Bickell ...4th in D points two seasons ago ...near .5 points per game last year ...he is a better version of Justin Shultz ...would I rather he make less sure but he isn't some cap dump throw in
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Jun 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
crosby still sucks tho
- BulliesPhan87


Thanks for the contribution!

Don't forget to get your certificate of attendance on the way. Always nice when the blind find a way to participate!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
As long as Philly fans keep saying Crosby sucks, we'll still know he's still a valuable player
- DeflatedPucks

as if the trophies he took home weren't enough



ugh
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
Well I agree the wideman offers need to stop, he is no Bickell ...4th in D points two seasons ago ...near .5 points per game last year ...he is a better version of Justin Shultz ...would I rather he make less sure but he isn't some cap dump throw in
- Redmile247


lol
and he's 33 and he's a ref-killer

EDIT: and OH (frank), he has a 5.25m cap hit next year
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:00 PM ET
I honestly think it takes something like Backlund and the 35 though most Flames posters don't seem to agree. I dont know if 2 2nd rounders will be enough for GMJR. Somehow I doubt it will be. Which is a bit of a shame as Backs is a really good 3C and defensively responsible. The problem is he doesnt exactly fill a need for Pitt. Maybe Colborne but I doubt that is too exciting either. TB may end up being the best trade partner.
- FLflames34


Here is the thing. Two second round picks should be more than enough for JR. That should be the goal. Asking for the 6th overall pick is embarrassing to be honest when tied to MAF.

I wouldn't mind Backlund, if we didn't have Crosby, Malkin, Bonino. Backhand would be a fourth line center in Pittsburgh, not a third liner. Colbourne, same thing. People continue to throw centers coming back our way and they don't even look at our roster ... Crosby/Malikn/Bonino/Fehr or Cullen or Sundqvist. We don't need centers.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
as if the trophies he took home weren't enough



ugh

- BulliesPhan87



15002 days since Flyers Last Cup
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:01 PM ET
Thanks for the contribution!

Don't forget to get your certificate of attendance on the way. Always nice when the blind find a way to participate!

- NJPensfan

Oh yeah? Well, I... uh...

um


I've got nothing for you, sorry
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
Ha. I don't want any Flames defenseman outside of Brodie or Dougie. Dang you guys spent a lot of money on the back end.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


It's just the way it worked out with some contracts ending around the same time others began ...pretty quick it will be gio, Brodie, Hamilton and then a bunch of kids on ELC or guys like jokkipaka
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
15002 days since Flyers Last Cup
- Guile

almost two months since your last ban
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
Here is the thing. Two second round picks should be more than enough for JR. That should be the goal. Asking for the 6th overall pick is embarrassing to be honest when tied to MAF.

I wouldn't mind Backlund, if we didn't have Crosby, Malkin, Bonino. Backhand would be a fourth line center in Pittsburgh, not a third liner. Colbourne, same thing. People continue to throw centers coming back our way and they don't even look at our roster ... Crosby/Malikn/Bonino/Fehr or Cullen or Sundqvist. We don't need centers.

- Oneonta Penguin

I know you are loaded at C which is why I said he wasnt the best fit. 2 2nds I am fine with.
jaydogg1974
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
What rumored #6? It was JR being an idiot, or shooting for the moon for Fleury. He isn't worth that. Trading Murray for the number six plus is also just a retarded notion as well. We don't yield anything good on the NHL roster for two or three years following the draft. Utterly pointless. LOL at your post saying Calgary has wanted Murray for 6-8 months and has offered the 6 overall plus.

Reasonable thing to do is deal the guy that is our backup making 5.75 million for the next XXX years, the one who had two concussions in two months and usually struggles in the play-offs.

There is a cap problem. The people who think we don't have one I don't get. We are up against the cap and have bigger problems next year.

- Oneonta Penguin


It has been reported several places that Calgary has offered #6 as the centerpiece for Murray, it was also heavily reported at the TD that Calgary pushed hard to try to pry Murray away from the Pens then. Not going to get involved in the merits of considering the deal because you're already set in your biased opinion but bashing the poster and acting like he has no basis for even suggesting it when both things you disputed have already been report makes you look foolish.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
almost two months since your last ban
- BulliesPhan87



Pfft.... its been much shorter
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
lol
and he's 33 and he's a ref-killer

EDIT: and OH (frank), he has a 5.25m cap hit next year

- DeflatedPucks


His age or ref pushing abilities do not make him worse than Shultz ...
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
Well I agree the wideman offers need to stop, he is no Bickell ...4th in D points two seasons ago ...near .5 points per game last year ...he is a better version of Justin Shultz ...would I rather he make less sure but he isn't some cap dump throw in
- Redmile247


He is a cap bump throw in when he is making what he makes. Pittsburgh cannot justify trading MAF to clear cap and bring in an at best third D pairing guy that tries to kill zebras making 5.25 for the next year.

You get a starting goalie for 5.75 and we get a third pair Dman at best for 5.25? pass.

Stop talking about two years ago. It was a career year for him. Let's talk this year. It's sort of like when Toronto fans were coming on here talking Kulemin would be this great compliment to Malkin because he was once a 30-goal scorer. Problem was, when they were doing that, he was two years removed from that and he hasn't amassed 10 since.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:05 PM ET
His age or ref pushing abilities do not make him worse than Shultz ...
- Redmile247



They also don't make him more than double the worth of what we'd even pay Schultz.


Retain 50% of his cap, and we'll humor talk
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:05 PM ET
His age or ref pushing abilities do not make him worse than Shultz ...
- Redmile247



You continue to fail at selling Wideman to Pittsburgh. There is no justification for Pittsburgh to remotely have interest.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
Pfft.... its been much shorter
- Guile

well, I hope you're enjoying your day in the sun. Just saying though, it could've been more dramatic. It's kind of hard to maintain suspense when there's a clear cut winner four months out from the finals.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:06 PM ET
well, I hope you're enjoying your day in the sun. Just saying though, it could've been more dramatic. It's kind of hard to maintain suspense when there's a clear cut winner four months out from the finals.
- BulliesPhan87



When you're that good, you're good. Don't be a hater, or better phrased, a RANGER
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
It has been reported several places that Calgary has offered #6 as the centerpiece for Murray, it was also heavily reported at the TD that Calgary pushed hard to try to pry Murray away from the Pens then. Not going to get involved in the merits of considering the deal because you're already set in your biased opinion but bashing the poster and acting like he has no basis for even suggesting it when both things you disputed have already been report makes you look foolish.
- jaydogg1974



And even considering that deal, if true, is retarded for the reasons I stated. Don't give me your already set in your biased opinion, because I've seen your posts.

It's a dumb idea for Pittsburgh to consider.
jaydogg1974
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
I have to admit that I wasn't a big fan of the GMJR hiring when it first went down but as time passes I can't be more impressed with how he handles himself, I always felt like Shero was too concerned with appeasing the fans and always looked to make moves that excited the fans even if they weren't necessarily the best moves for the team but GMJR just does his thing and doesn't care how he's perceived. His patience with this goalie situation when everyone wants to make knee jerk reactions is going to be a Godsend for the organization.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 22 @ 1:08 PM ET
Here is the thing. Two second round picks should be more than enough for JR. That should be the goal. Asking for the 6th overall pick is embarrassing to be honest when tied to MAF.

I wouldn't mind Backlund, if we didn't have Crosby, Malkin, Bonino. Backhand would be a fourth line center in Pittsburgh, not a third liner. Colbourne, same thing. People continue to throw centers coming back our way and they don't even look at our roster ... Crosby/Malikn/Bonino/Fehr or Cullen or Sundqvist. We don't need centers.

- Oneonta Penguin


I know bonino just had an amazing cup run for you guys so he is very popular in here but he is not better than backs ..not close ...bonino is a 3C and nothing more ...if you traded Malkin bonino could not take the 2C spot but a backlund could ...I say good on bonino for playing above his head but let's be realistic here
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:08 PM ET
I have to admit that I wasn't a big fan of the GMJR hiring when it first went down but as time passes I can't be more impressed with how he handles himself, I always felt like Shero was too concerned with appeasing the fans and always looked to make moves that excited the fans even if they weren't necessarily the best moves for the team but GMJR just does his thing and doesn't care how he's perceived. His patience with this goalie situation when everyone wants to make knee jerk reactions is going to be a Godsend for the organization.
- jaydogg1974



His worst viewed move/trade... Despres for Lovejoy, turns out to be one of his best.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
I know bonino just had an amazing cup run for you guys so he is very popular in here but he is not better than backs ..not close ...bonino is a 3C and nothing more ...if you traded Malkin bonino could not take the 2C spot but a backlund could ...I say good on bonino for playing above his head but let's be realistic here
- Redmile247



Hey... you guys can have Malkin... just give us Bennett and Brodie
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
Here is the thing. Two second round picks should be more than enough for JR. That should be the goal. Asking for the 6th overall pick is embarrassing to be honest when tied to MAF.

I wouldn't mind Backlund, if we didn't have Crosby, Malkin, Bonino. Backhand would be a fourth line center in Pittsburgh, not a third liner. Colbourne, same thing. People continue to throw centers coming back our way and they don't even look at our roster ... Crosby/Malikn/Bonino/Fehr or Cullen or Sundqvist. We don't need centers.

- Oneonta Penguin

I posted this last blog before it went Truman Kapute:

Calgary is now officially tied to Varly on top of Bishop and Fleury. People ask why not start at some outlandish asking price like the 6th overall or Bennett. Well there's why. The longer we take to lure in Calgary's attention with a worthwhile offer, the longer they have to explore and be seduced by other options. It's not Fleury or bust for Calgary. It may be Calgary or bust for us.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
His age or ref pushing abilities do not make him worse than Shultz ...
- Redmile247



Chris Chelios agrees!
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