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Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:37 PM ET
Deal Murray. CGY has wanted him for at least 6-8mos, apparently has offered their #6+ for him already. Get that up as high as you can and swing the deal at the draft. Then, turn around and deal #6+ to CBJ for #3 and laugh away...
- mventres

Yeah trade a can't miss goalie for a 50/50 prospect who is years away from helping and keep the old goalie who is and is not a complete head case when the games matter and is already feeling dejected. The only place you'll be laughing is the insane asylum when Puljujarvi busts and Murray has a HOF career.
tpcg402
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Omaha, NE
Joined: 12.29.2015

Jun 22 @ 5:37 PM ET

Zac_O
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.17.2015

Jun 22 @ 5:37 PM ET
Huh. Didn't think about this... That means Dales is also under contract who I think may also have a NMC. This will be address at some point I'd have to imagine. Would be pretty lame if teams had to autoprotect pending UFAs. No guarantee they'll be back and Vegas won't take them anyways.
- Victoro311

Duper wont qualify for auto protect because of the injured player missing 60 games rule. But Kuni and Daley might be auto protected if they treat pending ufas the same as players already signed for the next season. Its something the NHL needs to clear up. I guess I'll be optimistic and believe they would waive it knowing they wont be re-signed to help the team cuz they are just great guys like that. But thats a lot of hoping.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 22 @ 5:39 PM ET
Not when there has been over 50 posts on this topic in the last 3 days.
- Guile


Fortunately my life does not revolve around these threads, so this is a new conversation to me.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:41 PM ET
If Fleury is dealt, I'm not sure I want Zatkoff as the primary backup in this instance. Zatkoff was perfect backup for Fleury because he was cheap and we really didn't need to rely on him to play many games. MAF is a workhorse. If Murray is the top guy, we need someone capable of playing 30-35 games in the event Murray struggles a bit. Carter Hutton would be the perfect fit as Murray's backup. More expensive than Zatkoff, but has the ability to play that many games if needed.
- Oneonta Penguin

I like this idea, I can't believe it came from you, but that is a name that would be perfect.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:42 PM ET
Fortunately my life does not revolve around these threads, so this is a new conversation to me.
- Rinosaur



The dull life of compile times and dataloading leaves me with far more free time during the work day than most.

And yes, I really could use a better hobby, but they frowned upon whittling in the office.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:43 PM ET
The dull life of compile times and dataloading leaves me with far more free time during the work day than most.

And yes, I really could use a better hobby, but they frowned upon whittling in the office.

- Guile

Guille also may or may not be currently unemployed
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:44 PM ET
Guille also may or may not be currently unemployed
- Victoro311



Oh no, I picked up two freelance jobs 3 weeks ago... which I believe a kid out of high school could have done.


Granted, half of this blog thinks I am still at google from over a year ago XD
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 22 @ 5:48 PM ET
I like this idea, I can't believe it came from you, but that is a name that would be perfect.
- Dcoms


Yinz gonna think I'm crazy, but this is why I'd love a MAF for Elliot + 1st Round Pick and call it a day.

Pens get Elliot as the back-up for one year, Jarry gets to remain in WBS for another season, Pens cut a chunk of salary off the books and move on.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:49 PM ET
Yinz gonna think I'm crazy, but this is why I'd love a MAF for Elliot + 1st Round Pick and call it a day.

Pens get Elliot as the back-up for one year, Jarry gets to remain in WBS for another season, Pens cut a chunk of salary off the books and move on.

- Rinosaur

don't think st louis needs fleury
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:50 PM ET
don't think st louis needs fleury
- martox



Nor is a 1st round pick worth ~2.5 mil in cap savings for 1 year.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:50 PM ET
Yinz gonna think I'm crazy, but this is why I'd love a MAF for Elliot + 1st Round Pick and call it a day.

Pens get Elliot as the back-up for one year, Jarry gets to remain in WBS for another season, Pens cut a chunk of salary off the books and move on.

- Rinosaur

I'd take that trade definitely, but I don't see why St. Louis would with Allen in the wings. Then again, they did trade for Miller when they already had Halak, so...
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 5:52 PM ET
This is unfamiliar territory for me, so I'm fine if I was misinformed. I'm not a doctor or a medical expert.

You like telling people they're wrong, don't you? I feel like there were numerous other ways you could have corrected me.

- Rinosaur



Not as much as I do and I haven't ripped into you at all. I'm a nice guy.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:53 PM ET
Not as much as I do and I haven't ripped into you at all. I'm a nice guy.
- Oneonta Penguin



I feel you are quite wrong, in who likes telling people they are wrong... MISTA WRONG SIR!
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:53 PM ET
I feel you are quite wrong, in who likes telling people they are wrong... MISTA WRONG SIR!
- Guile

You guys are both Class A Richards
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:54 PM ET
Sprong would be exposed if he was called up to us, or played in the AHL. His injury will help us from not having to protect him provided he plays in the Q and is shut down after the season.
- Oneonta Penguin

That would still only make him a 2nd year pro, so think he is protected.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 5:54 PM ET
I like this idea, I can't believe it came from you, but that is a name that would be perfect.
- Dcoms


I have been banging the Carter Hutton name for a month on this board. Ironic ... both Murray and Hutton hail from the same hometown. He would be a quality backup. I do have some good ideas. Thanks for the compliment.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:54 PM ET
You guys are both Class A Richards
- Victoro311



I personally feel he is only around a B- level, but you might be grading on a curve
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 5:56 PM ET
That would still only make him a 2nd year pro, so think he is protected.
- Tojo.


I was under the impression that second year pros have to be protected or exposed. Sprong has one year of pro because of his short stint here at the start (didn't like that) and the play-offs in the aHL. I was under the impression another year like that, he had to be protected or exposed. If that is the case, we lucked out due to his injury because he won't have to be protected. I'm confused on this.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 5:58 PM ET
There is no other two way center in the league right now that is better than Jonathan Towes. He brings so much more to the game than Crosby or Mulkin does!!
- clander

Yeah that's why Toews is always the captain of team Canada and Crosby is just an alternate. Because Toews is such a better leader. And notice how I'm spelling Toews? If you're gonna talk $hit for him learn to spell his name.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 5:58 PM ET
I personally feel he is only around a B- level, but you might be grading on a curve
- Guile



I haven't gotten a B- in a long, long time, so ...
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jun 22 @ 6:05 PM ET
I was under the impression that second year pros have to be protected or exposed. Sprong has one year of pro because of his short stint here at the start (didn't like that) and the play-offs in the aHL. I was under the impression another year like that, he had to be protected or exposed. If that is the case, we lucked out due to his injury because he won't have to be protected. I'm confused on this.
- Oneonta Penguin

Well, it definitely says 1st and 2nd year pros are exempt on the rules they released today. But there is a lot of confusing parts. Now that the rules are official, I hope someone explains all the finer details. But since he really can't make the team now, if Sprong would have to be protected he just shouldn't play in the AHL this year.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 22 @ 6:08 PM ET
Duper wont qualify for auto protect because of the injured player missing 60 games rule. But Kuni and Daley might be auto protected if they treat pending ufas the same as players already signed for the next season. Its something the NHL needs to clear up. I guess I'll be optimistic and believe they would waive it knowing they wont be re-signed to help the team cuz they are just great guys like that. But thats a lot of hoping.
- Zac_O


Im assuming pending UFAs won't be protected. Why would a team protect a player who they plan not to resign? On the other hand, I could see a lot of teams signing their free agents after June 20th.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 22 @ 6:09 PM ET
Good point. Crosby could have taken a bundle more, but put the organization first. Love him or hate him, Tom Brady has done the same with the Patriots. Toews and Kane were thinking of themselves first and it cost them Saad, Terravainen and maybe Crawford.
- Oneonta Penguin


Pretty sure Kane and toews took almost 2.5 million per year less than Crosby did in order to win 3 cup thus putting the team first when they could have got more ...now they are being rewarded for being such good team guys
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 22 @ 6:09 PM ET
Yeah trade a can't miss goalie for a 50/50 prospect who is years away from helping and keep the old goalie who is and is not a complete head case when the games matter and is already feeling dejected. The only place you'll be laughing is the insane asylum when Puljujarvi busts and Murray has a HOF career.
- Dcoms


HMMM ... don't look now, but you are agreeing with me again.
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