Think Sven cracks the top 30 when they do the 10 yr lookback?
- FLflames34

Nope notably left of the list!

Everyone always wants to bring up Gilles, but Schneider and McDonald are likely to be just as good or better.

#signreimer

Everyone always wants to bring up Gilles, but Schneider and McDonald are likely to be just as good or better.
- Hunkulese

Gillies has a bit more of a pedigree and is further along in development ...if he turns out to suck than everyone will jump ship to the next guy

I also love how everyone thinks Lucic is $hit. Hopefully this drives the price down. Sign him, throw him on a line with Bennett, and watch the magic happen!!!
- The-O-G

I don't want to touch Lucic, I have a feeling he's going to crash harder than Lecalvalier and Richards. I'd rather have Hartnell, at least he's well liked by his team mates and we'd only be on the hook for 3 years. Anything longer than a 3 year contract is dangerous IMO, especially if there is a bit of a bidding war for him.

Everyone always wants to bring up Gilles, but Schneider and McDonald are likely to be just as good or better.
- Hunkulese

Atleast share if you're going to smoke crack around us and talk goalie prospects.

Why get a top tier goalie and pay through the nose if you dont think you will compete for the cup in the next 2 yrs? Halak is a perfectly cheap stopgap, assuming you subscribe to the Gillies kool-aid. And he certainly would be better than last year, at least. Who knows, Ortio is young too, maybe he is retained and turns a corner when Halak gets injured.
- FLflames34

True how long is he signed? Not the worst option, especially for just a 3rd.

Atleast share if you're going to smoke crack around us and talk goalie prospects.
- fry

Big difference between what us armchair geniuses think & reality of being a GM of a real NHL team. Lots of criticism of our horrid goaltending last year. A little unexpected considering both Ramo & Hiller gave us NHL average tending the year before. But if Tre goes in with questionable goaltending this year, its his a$$. Don't kid yourself, Flames Ownership & upper management have playoff expectations from this team. I totally get why Tre wants to get the optics right with whose in net come October.

Big difference between what us armchair geniuses think & reality of being a GM of a real NHL team. Lots of criticism of our horrid goaltending last year. A little unexpected considering both Ramo & Hiller gave us NHL average tending the year before. But if Tre goes in with questionable goaltending this year, its his a$$. Don't kid yourself, Flames Ownership & upper management have playoff expectations from this team. I totally get why Tre wants to get the optics right with whose in net come October.
- Kevin R

Who is kidding themselves in this reply? I optimistically expect playoffs next year; just like management. The "stopgap" concept is ignoring what we've seen this team do.

Atleast there's no more talk of Anderson and Howard.

Who is kidding themselves in this reply? I optimistically expect playoffs next year; just like management. The "stopgap" concept is ignoring what we've seen this team do.

Atleast there's no more talk of Anderson and Howard.
- fry

Sorry Fry.... my reply was to FLflames34 for wanting to go for a stop gap.

Fck I wish we would just get a fcking goalie, any fcking goalie at this point as Im tired of psycho-analysing this thing.

Sorry Fry.... my reply was to T&A for wanting to go for a stop gap.

Fck I wish we would just get a fcking goalie, any fcking goalie at this point as Im tired of psycho-analysing this thing.
- Kevin R

Agreed dude. There's not much wrong with Reimer and he seems like an underdog. His leverage is slipping away it looks like. Could probably get him on 5x1 or 4x2.

Just doing research on Gulutzan's season with the Stars. Negatives: they were 30th in PP and they lost a sh!t ton of games in the stretch to miss the playoffs. Did not realize that.

That said, got a good feeling from his presser. Screw the analytics of the half-season he got in poopty Crawford's wake. He seems like an awesome player's coach from hearing him speak. Very optimistic with GG.

Agreed dude. There's not much wrong with Reimer and he seems like an underdog. His leverage is slipping away it looks like. Could probably get him on 5x1 or 4x2.

Just doing research on Gulutzan's season with the Stars. Negatives: they were 30th in PP and they lost a sh!t ton of games in the stretch to miss the playoffs. Did not realize that.

That said, got a good feeling from his presser. Screw the analytics of the half-season he got in poopty Crawford's wake. He seems like an awesome player's coach from hearing him speak. Very optimistic with GG.
- fry

He's also admitted that he wasn't ready for a head coaching job in the NHL. I think the travel schedule got to him and he was a little overwhelmed. Spending the last few years as an assistant should help quite a bit with that. His time in Dallas probably isn't a very accurate representation of what he will be like for us.

Also, I think he was in charge of Vancouvers special teams. The year they made the playoffs with us they were near the top of the league, they were even fairly respectable, all things considered, last season as well.

So here's my question. Who would the Flames end up losing in the expansion draft?

From what I understand every team will lose 1 player.

All signs point to Monahan, Gaudreau, Bennett, Backlund, Frolik, Giordano, Brodie, and Hamilton being protected. After that there is 2 more forwards and a goalie.

If they trade for a number 1 goalie, then that leaves the question of if Gilles would require protection. If not is he as good as gone? It's believable that in the end Vegas will pick 4 goalies (need some for the AHL). Would Gilles definitely be one of those 4?

Who else is likely to be picked?

I honestly wonder about a guy like Stajan. He would provide good veteran leadership to the new team. And his contract will definitely help Vegas get to their cap requirement. Even though his skill may have declined, he may be just the kind of guy that they want to have in that locker room. That aspect of him has never been in question.

Otherwise maybe Ferland of Colborne (if resigned). It's not completely clear if prospects like Shinkaruk, Poirier, or Klimchuk require protection. But there are still 2 forward protections available.

Any thoughts on who the Flames will lose?

So here's my question. Who would the Flames end up losing in the expansion draft?

From what I understand every team will lose 1 player.

All signs point to Monahan, Gaudreau, Bennett, Backlund, Frolik, Giordano, Brodie, and Hamilton being protected. After that there is 2 more forwards and a goalie.

If they trade for a number 1 goalie, then that leaves the question of if Gilles would require protection. If not is he as good as gone? It's believable that in the end Vegas will pick 4 goalies (need some for the AHL). Would Gilles definitely be one of those 4?

Who else is likely to be picked?

I honestly wonder about a guy like Stajan. He would provide good veteran leadership to the new team. And his contract will definitely help Vegas get to their cap requirement. Even though his skill may have declined, he may be just the kind of guy that they want to have in that locker room. That aspect of him has never been in question.

Otherwise maybe Ferland of Colborne (if resigned). It's not completely clear if prospects like Shinkaruk, Poirier, or Klimchuk require protection. But there are still 2 forward protections available.

Any thoughts on who the Flames will lose?
- dal_johnson

Treliving said that they don't think that they'll have to protect Gillies... he should still be exempt.

My guess is that we'll lose either Stajan or Bouma... or maybe a guy like Jokipaka.

So here's my question. Who would the Flames end up losing in the expansion draft?

From what I understand every team will lose 1 player.

All signs point to Monahan, Gaudreau, Bennett, Backlund, Frolik, Giordano, Brodie, and Hamilton being protected. After that there is 2 more forwards and a goalie.

If they trade for a number 1 goalie, then that leaves the question of if Gilles would require protection. If not is he as good as gone? It's believable that in the end Vegas will pick 4 goalies (need some for the AHL). Would Gilles definitely be one of those 4?

Who else is likely to be picked?

I honestly wonder about a guy like Stajan. He would provide good veteran leadership to the new team. And his contract will definitely help Vegas get to their cap requirement. Even though his skill may have declined, he may be just the kind of guy that they want to have in that locker room. That aspect of him has never been in question.

Otherwise maybe Ferland of Colborne (if resigned). It's not completely clear if prospects like Shinkaruk, Poirier, or Klimchuk require protection. But there are still 2 forward protections available.

Any thoughts on who the Flames will lose?
- dal_johnson

Could be no one. They're picking approximately 20 players from 30 teams. Not including the possibility of more than 1 player, thats 66% anyone goes. We won't have to worry much tbh.

Morning gents,

How many of you Frankers think BT pulls of something big vs staying the course? By big i mean moving up to 3 or going for a guy like Bishop.

Morning gents,

How many of you Frankers think BT pulls of something big vs staying the course? By big i mean moving up to 3 or going for a guy like Bishop.
- DuranDuran

Im of the belief goalie is his number one priority, and moving up is a close second. Can he pull off both is the the true question! Go big or go home land bishop and trade with Columbus.

Morning gents,

How many of you Frankers think BT pulls of something big vs staying the course? By big i mean moving up to 3 or going for a guy like Bishop.
- DuranDuran

I think they will push hard to move into the top 5, so they can draft one of Puju, Tkachuk or Luc-Dubbois. Landing any one of those guys is a HUGE win. Just a matter of the other GMs parting with their pick. But I definitely think we make some aggressive moves. I heard Burke say on thats hockey last night that they will try and move up

Treliving said that they don't think that they'll have to protect Gillies... he should still be exempt.

My guess is that we'll lose either Stajan or Bouma... or maybe a guy like Jokipaka.
- jtommyt

The flames need to have two more goalies under contract or being rfa at the time of draft for gillies to be exempt ..right now he is their only option to make available as you have to have at least one goalie made available

The flames need to have two more goalies under contract or being rfa at the time of draft for gillies to be exempt ..right now he is their only option to make available as you have to have at least one goalie made available
- Redmile247

Sign Ortio to a two year deal, we only have to expose 1 goalie who is either under contract or has RFA status.

I'd say it'll be between Bouma, Stajan, Jooris Ortio and possibly one of Shink or Poirier for who we lose. I think Bouma and Stajan could be the front runners though.

Could be no one. They're picking approximately 20 players from 30 teams. Not including the possibility of more than 1 player, thats 66% anyone goes. We won't have to worry much tbh.
- BobHartley

No... every team will lose 1 player.

The flames need to have two more goalies under contract or being rfa at the time of draft for gillies to be exempt ..right now he is their only option to make available as you have to have at least one goalie made available
- Redmile247

That's correct... but we all know there are at least 2 coming in this season (1 of which might be Ortio).

Morning gents,

How many of you Frankers think BT pulls of something big vs staying the course? By big i mean moving up to 3 or going for a guy like Bishop.
- DuranDuran

I'd be willing to bet on it.....something big WILL happen.

OG5

So here's my question. Who would the Flames end up losing in the expansion draft?

From what I understand every team will lose 1 player.

All signs point to Monahan, Gaudreau, Bennett, Backlund, Frolik, Giordano, Brodie, and Hamilton being protected. After that there is 2 more forwards and a goalie.

If they trade for a number 1 goalie, then that leaves the question of if Gilles would require protection. If not is he as good as gone? It's believable that in the end Vegas will pick 4 goalies (need some for the AHL). Would Gilles definitely be one of those 4?

Who else is likely to be picked?

I honestly wonder about a guy like Stajan. He would provide good veteran leadership to the new team. And his contract will definitely help Vegas get to their cap requirement. Even though his skill may have declined, he may be just the kind of guy that they want to have in that locker room. That aspect of him has never been in question.

Otherwise maybe Ferland of Colborne (if resigned). It's not completely clear if prospects like Shinkaruk, Poirier, or Klimchuk require protection. But there are still 2 forward protections available.

Any thoughts on who the Flames will lose?
- dal_johnson

Which begs the question.......if the Flames lose Stajan or Bouma, do they really lose a player???

Atleast share if you're going to smoke crack around us and talk goalie prospects.
- fry

It's pretty much the consensus among any scouts you talk to. Gilles has had more exposure and is probably closer but people are really high on the other two.