Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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IMO that's the only reason people are questioning this.......if it hadn't have been for bernier, toskola, the guy you traded for rask (he was so bad i can't even remember his name ), etc....people would look more favorable at this deal. it's like ottawa and coaches recently.
IMO, i hate the move (as a sens fan) which tells me that it was actually a really good move by the leafs. - sensarmy_11
Geeze, I hate that anecdote from the Ducks fan above that he would let in a gimme every game.
That sounds exactly like Bernier. |
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Weakglovehand20
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Bloomingdale, IL Joined: 07.19.2015
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A good deal for TOR. They gave up basically 2 2nd rounders to get the best available goaltender. Signing him for 5M x 5 yrs. seals the deal and Bernier will either be dealt at the draft or left available for expansion. Murray will get more for his extra goalie than TOR will. Bernier will fetch a late 2nd or 3rd, if traded. Calgary needs netminders so Bernier will get another chance sooner or later this year. |
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Sec111
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 07.14.2006
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I wouldn't be calling any of those besides Matthews as a potential superstar. Good Players and several could become stars, but that's it IMO. - haymac
Yakupov?
oh and while we are at it
Reinhart (thanks so much) |
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Geeze, I hate that anecdote from the Ducks fan above that he would let in a gimme every game.
That sounds exactly like Bernier. - Aetherial
m'eh, every goalie has their weaknesses......and all fans fell like almost every shot should be saved. i often feel the same about our anderson, seems like he got beat by a wrap around atleast once per game. overall his numbers seem solid......i think they're likely to regress this year simply based on teh fact that toronto is nearly as good as anaheim right now, but i think you guys will be fine. his GAA and win totals probably won't be great, but as long as his sv% stays around where it is now i would have no worries moving forward. |
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SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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come on now.........he was the best guy available that wasn't already signed to a big contract.
bishop and fleury are better goalies.......i would argue that bishop is much better.
anderson was the best option for the leafs, given where they are as an organization and his age....but he was absolutely not the "best goalie available" - sensarmy_11
To be fair, he said best goalie on the market. Nobody even knows if Bishop or MAF are available yet. |
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SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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To be fair, he said best goalie on the market. Nobody even knows if Bishop or MAF are available yet. - SolidGoldBricks
pretty sure everyone knows they're available.....they're as available as andersen was at least.....but i see your point. |
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quackup
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA Joined: 09.29.2014
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m'eh, every goalie has their weaknesses......and all fans fell like almost every shot should be saved. i often feel the same about our anderson, seems like he got beat by a wrap around atleast once per game. overall his numbers seem solid......i think they're likely to regress this year simply based on teh fact that toronto is nearly as good as anaheim right now, but i think you guys will be fine. his GAA and win totals probably won't be great, but as long as his sv% stays around where it is now i would have no worries moving forward. - sensarmy_11
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1993_Cup_Champs
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Heart of Mid-western Ontario Joined: 07.17.2006
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Great read!
Andersen is a good goalie, as he overthrew Hiller, Fasth, LaBarbera, Khabibulin, and Bryzgalov in becoming a #1. His commitment to excellence and professionalism earned him this opportunity. I'll keep an eye out for a Lego, Toronto Maple Leaf fusion goalie mask!
Why did Anaheim go with Gibson over Andersen? I think Gibson is the better of the two. Moreover, he's younger, and is signed for the next 3 years. Anyways, when Gibson is on, on he is good. The guy can close, and his shutouts are proof of that. The guy gets shutouts like I've never seen from this team. That works!
For Ducks fans, this is a very Bob Murray move, as it has the same feeling as the Etem and Palmieri trade from last summer. Bob knows strength comes from the draft in the salary cap era. Teams must draft and develop. The scouting team has been hitting it out of the park lately, so this'll pay dividends down the road. These next couple of weeks are about the draft and signing Perron. - IGotTheMemo
No offense, but that's not exactly a ringing endorsement based on that list of turd goaltenders u mentioned. I have yet to see a goalie that's thrived in Anaheim actually do anything productive since they left the ducks. It's quite apparent that the Anaheim system carries the goaltenders.
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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Yeah, Andersen might finally get you guys a return to the playoffs. He's a really solid regular season goalie. But Ed gives him credit for backstopping the Ducks to the conference finals. Technically it's true. But remember, the Ducks beat Winnipeg and Calgary in walkovers to get there. And Andersen didn't exactly steal a game against Chicago. In fact, I clearly remember a goal, I think it was in game 7, by Toews where he threw the puck at the net while simultaneously touching the goal line and the right boards. IMHO, Freddie is not a big time player. He's not as big a choker as Hiller was. But he's a bit of a choker when the heat is on. And if he can't see the puck, he'll let in goals low short side that have no business going in. Freddie, just throw a freakin' butterfly when you can't see instead of just standing there looking like you're trying to solve a mystery, ok? - yzermaneely
Didn't he have a .949 spct against the Hawks in that series? |
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My opinion is the leafs gave up two much and then paid Andersen to much on his contract. - Scooby_Doo
The word you're looking for is "TOO". Somehow you spelled it incorrectly TWO separate times |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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The word you're looking for is "TOO". Somehow you spelled it incorrectly TWO separate times - AxlRose91
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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come on now.........he was the best guy available that wasn't already signed to a big contract.
bishop and fleury are better goalies.......i would argue that bishop is much better.
anderson was the best option for the leafs, given where they are as an organization and his age....but he was absolutely not the "best goalie available" - sensarmy_11
Not sure about him, I actually think they're similar. Bishop though, 100% agree. Could (SHould) win the Vezina this season. Outside of injuries, I'm not sure Tampa should let this guy go over Vas. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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A 30th and a second, for a starter on one of the league's best teams, at 26 years old or whatever he is?
That isn't too much.
The contract is risky for sure. If he comes here and craps the bed (we have seen it many times before), then the Leafs will have undone the good work they did dumping some other bad contracts.
If he is what the Leafs believe he is, at his age, then neither the trade nor the contract are overpayments. - Aetherial
Time will tell. All I'm saying is my opinion. He's got a lot of holes in his game, leafs gave up a lot to get him and then signed him long term at a high end cap hit for today's goalies. It's a risk, especially reading scouting reports on him.
http://www.rantsports.com...lence-critics-in-2015-16/
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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The word you're looking for is "TOO". Somehow you spelled it incorrectly TWO separate times - AxlRose91
Done on purpose pal. Glad someone coughed it. |
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The word you're looking for is "TOO". Somehow you spelled it incorrectly TWO separate times - AxlRose91
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getzlaugh
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: WA Joined: 09.10.2015
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Really happy about this trade, we've known this was coming after Gibson was extended at the beginning of the year. FA will make a great starter for a rebuilding team in TOR.
FA definitely could carry this team through the regular season, but I started to doubt his ability to help the team close games like in 14-15 against Chicago (for the reasons stated above) and this season. Anaheim didn't lose the series to Nashville because of FA, but I wondered if fate would have been different if BB went back to Gibson for game 7.
Great return for the Ducks, deepen that prospect pool.
Now lets resign 47 and 67, and move out 4 for a nice return to make way for Shea Theodore. |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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Time will tell. All I'm saying is my opinion. He's got a lot of holes in his game, leafs gave up a lot to get him and then signed him long term at a high end cap hit for today's goalies. It's a risk, especially reading scouting reports on him.
http://www.rantsports.com...lence-critics-in-2015-16/ - Scooby_Doo
19th highest paid goalie is high end? |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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19th highest paid goalie is high end? - mykokes
As I said, today's goalies...
Not guys like Lundqvist, Price, Rinne etc...
Martin Jones makes $3m. Andersen makes $5m.
Get my drift Palio? |
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SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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As I said, today's goalies...
Not guys like Lundqvist, Price, Rinne etc...
Martin Jones makes $3m. Andersen makes $5m.
Get my drift Palio? - Scooby_Doo
Jones signed that when he was not a starter. Andersen signed as a starter. Jones will likely not be making $3mm a year on his next contract. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Jones signed that when he was not a starter. Andersen signed as a starter. Jones will likely not be making $3mm a year on his next contract. - SolidGoldBricks
He signed it with San Jose after they traded for him. Pretty much same return as Andersen, same age, same situation.
Stalock was not the starter, nor was be going to be. Sharks traded for Jones to be their starter. |
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Ed Stein
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: McKinney, TX Joined: 10.14.2007
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You Ducks fans (and Ed of course) make me happier and happier about this trade/signing. I like a lot about Andersen, but seeing so many Ducks people thinking this is good for Toronto is giving me a lot of hope.
Ed, solid joke to end this blog. It honestly made me laugh out loud. - SolidGoldBricks
Sometimes reality can be very funny. |
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