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MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 21 @ 10:21 PM ET
What's the expected escrow going to be?
- A_SteamingLombardi

5%
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 10:21 PM ET
Yup, there wasn't much at tdl. With all 7 Canadian teams in rebuild mode there will be pressure on them to do something. Gudbranson was a good start for us but last year showed exactly what our team is. This is Gillis' model of never developing coming to fruition.
- I-own_da-Northwest


In a fantasy draft i made trades to make this out team.

Sedin(7)-Sedin(7)-Okposo(5.5) = 19.5
Baerschi(1.85)-Stepan(6.5)-Sutter(4.375) = 12.725
Etem(950k)-Bo(894k)-Zibanejad(2.625) = 4.469
Burrows(4.5)-Granlund(900k)-Dorsett(2.65) = 8.05
Gaunce(863k)


Sbisa(3.6)-Tanev(4.45) = 8.05
Hutton(896k)-Gudbranson(3.5) = 4.396
Tryamkin(925k)-Larsen(2) = 2.925

Pedan(850k) Biega(750k)

Miller(6)
Markstrom(1.55)

Defense is no better than last year( i don't see it worse) btu our forward group, esp top 9 is much much better. Also had added Chabot to our prospect pool, only pick i gave up was this years 3rd(was used with Hansen and Higgins(dump) to get Stepan)
Edler + Rodin for Zibanejad +Chabot, gave RFA rightys to Vey and 154 for Okposo rights(was argued may be higher cap hit that 5.5)
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 21 @ 10:29 PM ET
5%
- MaWLz


Try again the escrow will be at least 18%. Every year the escrow has gone up which is one of the reasons why it took so long to figure out the cap because the NHLPA had to agree to the cap which then determines the escrow.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:31 PM ET
In a fantasy draft i made trades to make this out team.

Sedin(7)-Sedin(7)-Okposo(5.5) = 19.5
Baerschi(1.85)-Stepan(6.5)-Sutter(4.375) = 12.725
Etem(950k)-Bo(894k)-Zibanejad(2.625) = 4.469
Burrows(4.5)-Granlund(900k)-Dorsett(2.65) = 8.05
Gaunce(863k)


Sbisa(3.6)-Tanev(4.45) = 8.05
Hutton(896k)-Gudbranson(3.5) = 4.396
Tryamkin(925k)-Larsen(2) = 2.925

Pedan(850k) Biega(750k)

Miller(6)
Markstrom(1.55)

Defense is no better than last year( i don't see it worse) btu our forward group, esp top 9 is much much better. Also had added Chabot to our prospect pool, only pick i gave up was this years 3rd(was used with Hansen and Higgins(dump) to get Stepan)
Edler + Rodin for Zibanejad +Chabot, gave RFA rightys to Vey and 154 for Okposo rights(was argued may be higher cap hit that 5.5)

- Retinalz


You're lucky it is still Tuesday


And a full moon
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 10:32 PM ET
Try again the escrow will be at least 18%. Every year the escrow has gone up which is one of the reasons why it took so long to figure out the cap because the NHLPA had to agree to the cap which then determines the escrow.
- allsports

So it will be 18% on top of 69.5? 69.5 is the cap, NHLPA was voting on whether or not to add 5%(escrow) to it. This is how I understood it from reading up on it. No escrow means it would go down to 69.5, which would screw over a lot of teams.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 10:33 PM ET
You're lucky it is still Tuesday


And a full moon

- VANTEL

I thought the trades were good value to the Canucks. Still working on replacing Sbisa, but our top 9 is infinitely better than last years, and it all fits under cap.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:34 PM ET
The Flames need a No1 goalie badly and will probably have to overpay for it…such is life dude. The Flames need a true #1 more than they need Malkin. Spinning through backup goalie after backup goalie after backup goalie post-Kiprusoff makes little sense as well.
- LordHumungous


I think they end up getting Howard for cheap and MAF starts the season with the pens.
Lots of goalies out there and few buyers.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:42 PM ET
In a fantasy draft i made trades to make this out team.

Sedin(7)-Sedin(7)-Okposo(5.5) = 19.5
Baerschi(1.85)-Stepan(6.5)-Sutter(4.375) = 12.725
Etem(950k)-Bo(894k)-Zibanejad(2.625) = 4.469
Burrows(4.5)-Granlund(900k)-Dorsett(2.65) = 8.05
Gaunce(863k)


Sbisa(3.6)-Tanev(4.45) = 8.05
Hutton(896k)-Gudbranson(3.5) = 4.396
Tryamkin(925k)-Larsen(2) = 2.925

Pedan(850k) Biega(750k)

Miller(6)
Markstrom(1.55)

Defense is no better than last year( i don't see it worse) btu our forward group, esp top 9 is much much better. Also had added Chabot to our prospect pool, only pick i gave up was this years 3rd(was used with Hansen and Higgins(dump) to get Stepan)
Edler + Rodin for Zibanejad +Chabot, gave RFA rightys to Vey and 154 for Okposo rights(was argued may be higher cap hit that 5.5)

- Retinalz





I'd like to see Rodin play before trading him.

Those moves are pretty farfetched.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 21 @ 10:42 PM ET
I thought the trades were good value to the Canucks. Still working on replacing Sbisa, but our top 9 is infinitely better than last years, and it all fits under cap.
- Retinalz

Usually one maybe two trades happen a year for a team. You have a lot happening there.

Your D looks funky
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 10:53 PM ET
I thought the trades were good value to the Canucks. Still working on replacing Sbisa, but our top 9 is infinitely better than last years, and it all fits under cap.
- Retinalz

Good value for the Canucks but pretty bad for NY and Ott.

Since it's still Tuesday...

Sedin Sedin Eriksson (6x4)
Baertchi Horvat Hansen
puljujärvi Sutter Hartnell
Virtanen Granlund Rodin
Etem

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Tyutin Tryamkin
Biega Larsen

3rd overall, Tyutin, Hartnell and 2016 2nd
For
5th, Sbisa, Dorsett and clb 2nd

Clb gets a bit over 3 in cap and we stay competitive while upgrading some picks.
Buyout Burrows and Higgins and cap works.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 10:57 PM ET
Usually one maybe two trades happen a year for a team. You have a lot happening there.

Your D looks funky

- VANTEL

Once i find a trade to upgrade on sbisa(and dump him off) the D will look better.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 21 @ 11:16 PM ET
Once i find a trade to upgrade on sbisa(and dump him off) the D will look better.
- Retinalz


we love you JB.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 11:17 PM ET
we love you JB.
- hillbillydeluxe

I know you do. The best part is the NYR deal was done with a NYR fan and the Ottawa deal was done as a collective to reach a fair deal for Edler.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 21 @ 11:19 PM ET
I know you do. The best part is the NYR deal was done with a NYR fan and the Ottawa deal was done as a collective to reach a fair deal for Edler.
- Retinalz


and we still have Boeser and Demko?
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 11:19 PM ET
In a fantasy draft i made trades to make this out team.

Sedin(7)-Sedin(7)-Okposo(5.5) = 19.5
Baerschi(1.85)-Stepan(6.5)-Sutter(4.375) = 12.725
Etem(950k)-Bo(894k)-Zibanejad(2.625) = 4.469
Burrows(4.5)-Granlund(900k)-Dorsett(2.65) = 8.05
Gaunce(863k)


Sbisa(3.6)-Tanev(4.45) = 8.05
Hutton(896k)-Gudbranson(3.5) = 4.396
Tryamkin(925k)-Larsen(2) = 2.925

Pedan(850k) Biega(750k)

Miller(6)
Markstrom(1.55)

Defense is no better than last year( i don't see it worse) btu our forward group, esp top 9 is much much better. Also had added Chabot to our prospect pool, only pick i gave up was this years 3rd(was used with Hansen and Higgins(dump) to get Stepan)
Edler + Rodin for Zibanejad +Chabot, gave RFA rightys to Vey and 154 for Okposo rights(was argued may be higher cap hit that 5.5)

- Retinalz



i like that top 9!
But i agree that the trades seem quite skewed in Van's favor.
I'd pencil Hamhuis in if Edler is traded (lose Burrows salary somehow)
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 11:20 PM ET
and we still have Boeser and Demko?
- hillbillydeluxe

Traded no prospects, draft Tkachuk and added Chabot on defense. Only future I gave up was this years 3rd in the Stepan deal.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 21 @ 11:21 PM ET
Good value for the Canucks but pretty bad for NY and Ott.

Since it's still Tuesday...

Sedin Sedin Eriksson (6x4)
Baertchi Horvat Hansen
puljujärvi Sutter Hartnell
Virtanen Granlund Rodin
Etem

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Tyutin Tryamkin
Biega Larsen

3rd overall, Tyutin, Hartnell and 2016 2nd
For
5th, Sbisa, Dorsett and clb 2nd

Clb gets a bit over 3 in cap and we stay competitive while upgrading some picks.
Buyout Burrows and Higgins and cap works.

- belcherbd


I think that could work. The part I don't like is the term remaining on those contracts though. Is it worth it? I don't think taking on those contracts justifies the pick swapping. Maybe one or the other but not both.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 21 @ 11:21 PM ET
Good value for the Canucks but pretty bad for NY and Ott.

Since it's still Tuesday...

Sedin Sedin Eriksson (6x4)
Baertchi Horvat Hansen
puljujärvi Sutter Hartnell
Virtanen Granlund Rodin
Etem

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Tyutin Tryamkin
Biega Larsen

3rd overall, Tyutin, Hartnell and 2016 2nd
For
5th, Sbisa, Dorsett and clb 2nd

Clb gets a bit over 3 in cap and we stay competitive while upgrading some picks.
Buyout Burrows and Higgins and cap works.

- belcherbd


I think that could work. The part I don't like is the term remaining on those contracts though. Is it worth it? I don't think taking on those contracts justifies the pick swapping. Maybe one or the other but not both.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 11:21 PM ET
i like that top 9!
But i agree that the trades seem quite skewed in Van's favor.
I'd pencil Hamhuis in if Edler is traded (lose Burrows salary somehow)

- dbot

Hammers rights were essentially traded for Okposo's rights. Have been working on a deal that sends one of Fowler/Brodin to Van, though Wild are trying to send Scandella.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 21 @ 11:22 PM ET
So it will be 18% on top of 69.5? 69.5 is the cap, NHLPA was voting on whether or not to add 5%(escrow) to it. This is how I understood it from reading up on it. No escrow means it would go down to 69.5, which would screw over a lot of teams.
- Retinalz


I can't find the original link which said it was 16% last season but basically whatever the cap is each player has to pay into the "escrow" account or in other words when they get their paychecks they have deducted 16% until the end of the season when they reconcile the "hockey related revenue"

They did announce the cap to be $73.6 million which included the 5% escalator or else the cap was going to be the same.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 11:25 PM ET
I can't find the original link which said it was 16% last season but basically whatever the cap is each player has to pay into the "escrow" account or in other words when they get their paychecks they have deducted 16% until the end of the season when they reconcile the "hockey related revenue"

They did announce the cap to be $73.6 million which included the 5% escalator or else the cap was going to be the same.

- allsports

i was thinking escalator not escrow Good thinkg I am off work soon, my brain seems to have stopped working.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 21 @ 11:25 PM ET
Try again the escrow will be at least 18%. Every year the escrow has gone up which is one of the reasons why it took so long to figure out the cap because the NHLPA had to agree to the cap which then determines the escrow.
- allsports

Yeah exactly, it should be a minimum of 15%
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 21 @ 11:32 PM ET
https://www.instagram.com/p/BG7iO8xA8At/

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dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 11:33 PM ET
Hammers rights were essentially traded for Okposo's rights. Have been working on a deal that sends one of Fowler/Brodin to Van, though Wild are trying to send Scandella.
- Retinalz


Good luck.

that would be a nice improvement of our top 4 D, but would likely cost one of our top prospects (Boesser/5th OA)
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:41 PM ET
I think that could work. The part I don't like is the term remaining on those contracts though. Is it worth it? I don't think taking on those contracts justifies the pick swapping. Maybe one or the other but not both.
- WhatTheNuck


Not sure either but I think there is a significant gap between 3 and 5.

I also think Hartnell is still a pretty decent player.
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