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bigbear89
Calgary Flames
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 07.31.2012

Jun 21 @ 12:03 PM ET
[quote=The-O-G]Pull the trigger

Ohhh yeah
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
prospects is gonna be so good one day
- YuenglingJagr


I think prospects is more hype than anything ...seems to be offered in every deal
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak · 29m29 minutes ago

*BREAKING*: Per source CGY has offered 2 2nd rounders + Backlund + prospects for Ben Bishop. Ball in TB's court. - fixed the typo.

This guy is decent. Doesn't really throw poop out there.

- Dannyboy


Better be for bishop+. Calgary has pick of the litter right now, and would be crazy to give that much for one year of Bishop.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
Never really thought of Crawford as a game changing goalie. He's played on great teams but is just a good goalie. in my opinion. Much like Luongo on team Canada, was he really that good to win the gold?
- Flames in 6 04


Crawford is good ...id be more than happy with him as our goalie as well
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
Better be for bishop+. Calgary has pick of the litter right now, and would be crazy to give that much for one year of Bishop.
- dr_soiledpants


You don't know the full deal so it's hard to say it's too much
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:13 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak · 29m29 minutes ago

*BREAKING*: Per source CGY has offered 2 2nd rounders + Backlund + prospects for Ben Bishop. Ball in TB's court. - fixed the typo.

This guy is decent. Doesn't really throw poop out there.

- Dannyboy


this guy isnt a real insider, hes just a leafs fan who throws stuff at the wall all the time
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
You don't know the full deal so it's hard to say it's too much
- Redmile247


With the market right now, 2 2nds+backlund is too much.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:16 PM ET
With the market right now, 2 2nds+backlund is too much.
- dr_soiledpants


For a Vezina candidate?

The Leafs just gave up a 1st and 2nd for a guy that shared the load mostly.
Dannyboy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
this guy isnt a real insider, hes just a leafs fan who throws stuff at the wall all the time
- DDM-Coga


Oh. Thanks for the heads up.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
Oh. Thanks for the heads up.
- Dannyboy


yeah hes not legit, he popped up during the HockeyInsidder days, was a copy cat to him and now is starting to try to be "legit"

But the vast majority of his stuff is Leafs fan boy moves
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
For a Vezina candidate?

The Leafs just gave up a 1st and 2nd for a guy that shared the load mostly.

- golfingsince


This ^^
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
I think prospects is more hype than anything ...seems to be offered in every deal
- Redmile247


What does the analytics community have to say about Prospects game?
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:23 PM ET
With the market right now, 2 2nds+backlund is too much.
- dr_soiledpants


Why? I would say that's pretty fair value all things being considered.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:23 PM ET
Actually, with Bishop at 5.95 mill & needing to be resigned to probably 7.0 mill next year, where does that leave Gilles? How about Hickey, #35 & #54 & Gilles for Bishop?
Yzerman loves having those high end seeds cultivating & Bishop replaces that potential in net.

- Kevin R

Jesus guy, why not just add the #6, and Bennett? These offers are ridiculously stupid given the fact that TBL need cap space, will have to make a decision on a G at some point, yes, even though Bishop is a UFA after next season. Which is my last point, giving all that up for it possibly only 1 year.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
yeah hes not legit, he popped up during the HockeyInsidder days, was a copy cat to him and now is starting to try to be "legit"

But the vast majority of his stuff is Leafs fan boy moves

- DDM-Coga


He's RogerRoeper.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
Better be for bishop+. Calgary has pick of the litter right now, and would be crazy to give that much for one year of Bishop.
- dr_soiledpants

At first I would agree but fck me, Bishop is 29 & he is the real fcking deal. If we had Bishop last year, we would have had playoff games at the Dome. I guess it depends what the other prospects are.
golfingsince
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Jun 21 @ 12:25 PM ET
Jesus guy, why not just add the #6, and Bennett? These offers are ridiculously stupid given the fact that TBL need cap space, will have to make a decision on a G at some point, yes, even though Bishop is a UFA after next season. Which is my last point, giving all that up for it possibly only 1 year.
- TandA4Flames


Do you really think they make the trade without having a chance to talk to him?

Hell it almost seemed like Andersen's extension was announced before the trade.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 21 @ 12:25 PM ET
For a Vezina candidate?

The Leafs just gave up a 1st and 2nd for a guy that shared the load mostly.

- golfingsince


There's one team in the market, and he has one year left until he's a Ufa, so yes.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:26 PM ET
Jesus guy, why not just add the #6, and Bennett? These offers are ridiculously stupid given the fact that TBL need cap space, will have to make a decision on a G at some point, yes, even though Bishop is a UFA after next season. Which is my last point, giving all that up for it possibly only 1 year.
- TandA4Flames

Well, that's the thing, you don't do it for just 1 year, you go into the deal prepared to extend him on a 5 year 35 mill deal as early as July 2nd.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:26 PM ET
Do you really think they make the trade without having a chance to talk to him?

Hell it almost seemed like Andersen's extension was announced before the trade.

- golfingsince

Yup
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
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Jun 21 @ 12:29 PM ET
There's one team in the market, and he has one year left until he's a Ufa, so yes.
- dr_soiledpants


Yeah, I think that there's more than 1 team with interest in Bishop.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 21 @ 12:30 PM ET
At first I would agree but fck me, Bishop is 29 & he is the real fcking deal. If we had Bishop last year, we would have had playoff games at the Dome. I guess it depends what the other prospects are.
- Kevin R


If he had 2-3 years left on his deal, and/or there were multiple teams in the market be would command that and more in a trade.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 21 @ 12:30 PM ET
For a Vezina candidate?

The Leafs just gave up a 1st and 2nd for a guy that shared the load mostly.

- golfingsince


UFA does not equal RFA
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:31 PM ET
There's one team in the market, and he has one year left until he's a Ufa, so yes.
- dr_soiledpants

I agree. CGY has a lot of leverage here. These offers are basically destroying the depth we've built up. For reasons I said in my last post 2 seconds and a mid prospect at most. U can't offer 2 high picks and 2 of our top 4-5 prospects for a G on a 1 yr term with large cap on team with major $ issues.
dr_soiledpants
Calgary Flames
Location: Watrous, SK
Joined: 08.15.2015

Jun 21 @ 12:31 PM ET
Yeah, I think that there's more than 1 team with interest in Bishop.
- golfingsince


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