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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
Seriously

Line 1 would atleast have Stamkos-O'Reilly
Line 2 would atleast have Eichel-Reinhart

As we stand right now Ennis and Kane would be the other 2 in the top 6

Those are pretty damn dangerous lines

- feetontheair22



Take out Ennis add Vesey pretty please!!!!

All I have to say is this:

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
on-ice...shoulda qualified that statement
- Michael Pachla


I get what you're saying, because I've been saying that since the season started and Stamkos's demands came out. I've said dozens of times I just don't like the idea of anyone in the league making more than the two of those guys are right now. They walk the walk and have the hardware to back it up.

I also don't think that Stamkos is a difference maker when it matters most, but I guess it could be a lack of exposure to all of his games as well. I just know that when the game is on the line, Quenneville rolls Toews and Kane out on the ice one of them almost always works their magic. I just don't feel like Stamkos does that anywhere near on the same level as they do.

Is he a good player? Absolutely. I just don't think he's better than them or should be making more than they do.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
ROR has played both wings plus center. Stamkos can play RW and Center as well.

I don't see it as that big of a deal even though there has been chatter that both want to stay at Center long term.

I hate to say it.... maybe Eichel plays wing for a few years like Reinhart is now?

- JVince11



Its pretty much a given I would think.

Bylsma likes to run guys in pairs

Eichel- Reinhart stay together
ROR-Stamkos is the other pairing

Kane, Vesey, Ennis, etc jump back and forth
MattFreaknEllis
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
I like Stamkos as much as the next guy. I just can't see his salary/ role fitting in to our team as it is built right now. Are you going to slide him over to wing (his natural position being center)?If he stays at center, is Eichel/O'Rielly a 3rd line center? Would you slide O'Rielly over to wing, even though he's' a great center?
I just don't see the fit.

- bobmack13


When Bylsma was coach in Pittsburgh he had Malkin, Crosby, and Staal: all of whom were centers. He found was to play all 3 of them around 20 minutes of ice per game (Malkin and Crosby over 20, Staal under by 30 seconds). This means that Jordan Staal was not *just* the third line center, as a third line center would probably get around 15 minutes per game. This means that Bylsma found ways to play all 3 of them(and they were obviously successful). We've seen how Bylsma changes up the lines constantly this past season and I'm sure having Eichel, ROR, Stammer, would not be a problem. Having too much talent is never an issue.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
My unpopular guess is we won't be going after Stamkos. we have plenty of centers. is this a ploy by gmtm to drive the price up??
- turbo044


When a player of Stamkos's magnitude is this close to hitting UFA, if your GM isn't at least kicking the tires in some way (especially one who's team has been a bottom feeder for awhile) then he's not doing his job and should be fired.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
I get what you're saying, because I've been saying that since the season started and Stamkos's demands came out. I've said dozens of times I just don't like the idea of anyone in the league making more than the two of those guys are right now. They walk the walk and have the hardware to back it up.

I also don't think that Stamkos is a difference maker when it matters most, but I guess it could be a lack of exposure to all of his games as well. I just know that when the game is on the line, Quenneville rolls Toews and Kane out on the ice one of them almost always works their magic. I just don't feel like Stamkos does that anywhere near on the same level as they do.

Is he a good player? Absolutely. I just don't think he's better than them or should be making more than they do.

- HonkFortheGoose



He shouldn't but that's the price of doing business in Free Agency
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
That guy is full of crap but I love talking about the rumours.
- Der Kaiser

It's literally no fun.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
Raise your expectations. We have been through hell as sports fans. We deserve a Stamkos for once in a lifetime
- sbroads24



Did you get some during lunch time ?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
Stamkos Likely Teams

TB 55%
BUF 15%
DET 15%
TOR 15%

That is still how I see the odds.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Jun 21 @ 4:00 PM ET
He shouldn't but that's the price of doing business in Free Agency
- Stripes77


I understand it. Doesn't mean I have to like it though.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:00 PM ET
[quote=Stripes77]Take out Ennis add Vesey pretty please!!!!

All I have to say is this:quote]

I meant it as if we signed Stamkos today and the season started tomorrow. We are not guaranteed Vesey will sign here.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:00 PM ET
It's literally no fun.
- CaptainRivet

is it figuratively fun?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:00 PM ET
I get what you're saying, because I've been saying that since the season started and Stamkos's demands came out. I've said dozens of times I just don't like the idea of anyone in the league making more than the two of those guys are right now. They walk the walk and have the hardware to back it up.

I also don't think that Stamkos is a difference maker when it matters most, but I guess it could be a lack of exposure to all of his games as well. I just know that when the game is on the line, Quenneville rolls Toews and Kane out on the ice one of them almost always works their magic. I just don't feel like Stamkos does that anywhere near on the same level as they do.

Is he a good player? Absolutely. I just don't think he's better than them or should be making more than they do.

- HonkFortheGoose


this X 10m
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
It's literally no fun.
- CaptainRivet

Bobby Sanguinetti laughted at me for saying this
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
is it figuratively fun?
- IndianaSabresFan

Literally.
MattFreaknEllis
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jun 21 @ 4:02 PM ET
I get what you're saying, because I've been saying that since the season started and Stamkos's demands came out. I've said dozens of times I just don't like the idea of anyone in the league making more than the two of those guys are right now. They walk the walk and have the hardware to back it up.

I also don't think that Stamkos is a difference maker when it matters most, but I guess it could be a lack of exposure to all of his games as well. I just know that when the game is on the line, Quenneville rolls Toews and Kane out on the ice one of them almost always works their magic. I just don't feel like Stamkos does that anywhere near on the same level as they do.

Is he a good player? Absolutely. I just don't think he's better than them or should be making more than they do.

- HonkFortheGoose


Inflation, inflation, inflation.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:02 PM ET


Did you get some during lunch time ?

- cabin

I got laughed at.....with no pants on
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
Bobby Sanguinetti laughted at me for saying this
- sbroads24


Thats a nice play Broads.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Jun 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
Bobby Sanguinetti laughted at me for saying this
- sbroads24

I literally laughed.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
I got laughed at.....with no pants on
- sbroads24


Opinions vary
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
Opinions vary
- Der Kaiser

"I was in the pool"
bmhumby
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Work
Joined: 08.11.2009

Jun 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
Can we just offer Stamkos a max contract and then when the Sabres win the auction, we only gets charged $1 more than the next highest bid? Like eBay?

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
I understand it. Doesn't mean I have to like it though.
- HonkFortheGoose



Life is full of things we don't like!!!!!

I would still rather be a player in the game than sit and watch him go elsewhere
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 21 @ 4:05 PM ET
I got laughed at.....with no pants on
- sbroads24

IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:07 PM ET
I got laughed at.....with no pants on
- sbroads24

were you in the pool?
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