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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:32 AM ET
This is why you always make your own judgment and not listen to somebody else's pinpoint view. The old grain of salt approach!
- Lucas.Neilson


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We will see how he does...The Leafs obviously see something ..because 5x5 is a big commitment
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 21 @ 8:33 AM ET
So I was looking at the cap numbers and Leafs have 65 million including Horton and Robidas by my calculations. What's the rule on IR during the offseason? If, say, the Leafs sign Stamkos to a 9.5 million dollar contract, does Horton immediately go back on IR and his cap hit can be replaced, or does his cap hit count until the start of the regular season no matter what?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:34 AM ET
What's his glove to blocker upper quartile?
- RickJames77



I think the book is out on him...shoot glove high
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:35 AM ET
It's pretty funny, I've seen Andersen play a lot of games - the guy is huge, and has a ton of battle in him. It's simply a scenario where Anaheim has 2 great goalies and Andersen was going to cost them 5 million or so and they already have Gibson signed at a very reasonable contract. They need the money for some forward talent, it's a great trade for the Leafs and a good one for Anaheim stocking up a couple picks for something they really didn't need with only so much cap space available.

Great move by Lou.

- Lucas.Neilson


Good post Lucas!!!!

Let's go back to Anaheim for their Top 6 forward need on LW and target Lindholm!!!

JVR ++ to get it done..... do it Lou!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:36 AM ET
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We will see how he does...The Leafs obviously see something ..because 5x5 is a big commitment

- senstroll


a 6'4 #1 26 year old goalie who just happen to hit RFA when the team has 2 #1's and expansion is coming next year.

the stars simply aligned for the Leafs.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 21 @ 8:36 AM ET
Is dollar amount of the contract confirmed yet?
- TheMussel


$5 million even per for five years.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:37 AM ET
Good post Lucas!!!!

Let's go back to Anaheim for their Top 6 forward need on LW and target Lindholm!!!

JVR ++ to get it done..... do it Lou!!!!!!!!!!!

- PhilMcCracken

Apparently Ducks offered Fowler for JVR. Leafs said no
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 21 @ 8:37 AM ET
So I was looking at the cap numbers and Leafs have 65 million including Horton and Robidas by my calculations. What's the rule on IR during the offseason? If, say, the Leafs sign Stamkos to a 9.5 million dollar contract, does Horton immediately go back on IR and his cap hit can be replaced, or does his cap hit count until the start of the regular season no matter what?
- TheMussel

I believe the cap hit counts until the season starts and you can put the player on LTIR - but you can also be over the cap by 10%, but I'm not sure when you have to come into compliance
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:39 AM ET
When I see Andersen, I see Reimer v2.0. (a bit better and more consistent than Reimer)

Nothing wrong with that; I liked Reimer.

Andersen is in the area of 12-25 NHL goalies.
He's not top10 / elite though.

BUT he seems like a stable and good guy with consistency.

Leafs should get rid of Bernier (Calgary / Arizona / Nashville) and sign Reimer to a 2mln/2y contract end of September. (I doubt Reimer will get the a 4mln+ multi-annual contract he's looking for)

- MaximusAurelius


Ray Ferraro, is that you????
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:41 AM ET
Apparently Ducks offered Fowler for JVR. Leafs said no
- walshyleafsfan

Fowler is good but Lindholm is the man.
Capt_Spaulding
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NF
Joined: 11.03.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:42 AM ET
Captain Spaulding!!!! I absolutely (frank)ing loved that movie... one of the creepiest horror movies of our time....
- PhilMcCracken



The ending with Freebird playing in the background was nuts....
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:42 AM ET
Apparently Ducks offered Fowler for JVR. Leafs said no
- walshyleafsfan


I wouldn't either. The convo starts with Lindholm. If not, all good. We have JVR on a great contract with two years left... no rush to move him.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 21 @ 8:43 AM ET
I wouldn't either. The convo starts with Lindholm. If not, all good. We have JVR on a great contract with two years left... no rush to move him.
- PhilMcCracken

I would've done it for Lindholm.
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
The ending with Freebird playing in the background was nuts....
- Capt_Spaulding


Oh you're talking about Devil's rejects!!! Great movie as well. I let my son watch it and totally forgot about the whole hotel episode...man I felt like a bad dad that day. He was 11.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
[quote=senstroll]Morning

Morning

Rob Vollman ‏@robvollmanNHL
That's a lot of $ for Andersen. Over 3 yrs, ranks:
13th by Quality Start Pct%
23rd by SV%
25th by Adj SV%
26th by home plate SV%
26th by xGS


Rob Vollman ‏@robvollmanNHL
Andersen's value inflated by goal support of 3.11 (3rd in NHL), and facing especially soft opponents.

Rob Vollman ‏@robvollmanNHL
I used to study the avg shooting pct% of teams goalies assigned to face. Only one goalie was facing noticeably easier opponents: Andersen.


oh

Vollman = aaszhole, Andersen save percentage in 2016 playoffs = .947 five games against Nashville. (Nashville not a soft opponent)
Note to all the idiots saying that Andersen was a backup - he started final game


MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
Ray Ferraro, is that you????
- PhilMcCracken


? I missed this - maybe bc I'm not living in Canada/US (I do know who Ray Ferraro is in case you would wonder..).
What did he say about Andersen / Reimer?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 21 @ 8:45 AM ET
? I missed this - maybe bc I'm not living in Canada/US (I do know who Ray Ferraro is in case you would wonder..).
What did he say about Andersen / Reimer?

- MaximusAurelius


In short, he pretty much said 'meh'
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:47 AM ET
? I missed this - maybe bc I'm not living in Canada/US (I do know who Ray Ferraro is in case you would wonder..).
What did he say about Andersen / Reimer?

- MaximusAurelius


Can you see the videos on tsn.ca? He basically said he is a slight improvement over Reimer. I do like Reimer as the kid had lots of fight in him, but Andersen is positionally better and arguably more athletic, and he also has size. I think Ferraro is WAY off the mark. He is only going by numbers....
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:47 AM ET
I really do wonder about this Vesey situation and Buffalo, whole things seems very odd - like they got caught tampering and had to pay the piper.
- Lucas.Neilson

Or they had 4 3rds and said (frank) it worth a shot lol
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:47 AM ET
[quote=senstroll]Morning

Morning

Rob Vollman ‏@robvollmanNHL
That's a lot of $ for Andersen. Over 3 yrs, ranks:
13th by Quality Start Pct%
23rd by SV%
25th by Adj SV%
26th by home plate SV%
26th by xGS


Rob Vollman ‏@robvollmanNHL
Andersen's value inflated by goal support of 3.11 (3rd in NHL), and facing especially soft opponents.

Rob Vollman ‏@robvollmanNHL
I used to study the avg shooting pct% of teams goalies assigned to face. Only one goalie was facing noticeably easier opponents: Andersen.


oh

Vollman = aaszhole, Andersen save percentage in 2016 playoffs = .947 five games against Nashville. (Nashville not a soft opponent)
Note to all the idiots saying that Andersen was a backup - he started final game

- winsix


he also started more games than gibson during the regular season
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:51 AM ET
Good post Lucas!!!!

Let's go back to Anaheim for their Top 6 forward need on LW and target Lindholm!!!

JVR ++ to get it done..... do it Lou!!!!!!!!!!!

- PhilMcCracken


stop trying to trade JVR!!

the leafs have 2... count them... 2 legit top 6 forwards who aren't rookies

the leafs have zero depth in proven top 6 forward talent. LouLams wont trade those assets since the leafs are pathetically thin up front.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:51 AM ET
Or they had 4 3rds and said (frank) it worth a shot lol
- Bigzby

quite possible you are right - just seems odd, they already have 2 guys in top 6 on his wing.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:51 AM ET
So this pretty much takes us out of the Stamkos sweeps does it not? Not enough cap space left. Especially when the D needs some work and Lupul bozak Horton all likely to be on the books by ufa day.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:52 AM ET
stop trying to trade JVR!!

the leafs have 2... count them... 2 legit top 6 forwards who aren't rookies

the leafs have zero depth in proven top 6 forward talent. LouLams wont trade those assets since the leafs are pathetically thin up front.

- Dozzer



A (frank)ing men
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:54 AM ET
So this pretty much takes us out of the Stamkos sweeps does it not? Not enough cap space left. Especially when the D needs some work and Lupul bozak Horton all likely to be on the books by ufa day.
- systemtool

bish dont kill my vibe
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