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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:54 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull

awe.. eric from that 70's show is all grown up
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
If the Leafs ever win the Cup, I'm going to be the biggest arsehole to every other fan base.

I'll be banned from here for life!

- Atomic Wedgie


Leafs Nation will be insufferable. Even if the Leafs are top playoff contenders at some point, there's a few fanbases who made a career out of coming in here while they were up and we were down that are really, really going to suck it.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
Brace yourself, AA. I've got some crushingly bad news for you:

We still have Bernier.

- Atomic Wedgie

literally or figuratively?
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jun 20 @ 10:56 PM ET
Brace yourself, AA. I've got some crushingly bad news for you:

We still have Bernier.

- Atomic Wedgie

Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. They need a goalie.


They just traded for Andersen.


Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. Almost 10 mil on goalies.


Bernier only has a year left, which we don't expect this team to contend during anyways.


Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. Andersen isn't good.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:57 PM ET
Leafs Nation will be insufferable. Even if the Leafs are top playoff contenders at some point, there's a few fanbases who made a career out of coming in here while they were up and we were down that are really, really going to suck it.
- Zezel

The Maple Leafs internet ultras!
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 10:59 PM ET
Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. They need a goalie.


They just traded for Andersen.


Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. Almost 10 mil on goalies.


Bernier only has a year left, which we don't expect this team to contend during anyways.


Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. Andersen isn't good.

- BetterCallSaul

dont let some lame ass oilers fans come flocking in here saying nice things. its a ruse! they're all (frank)ing bumholes
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:02 PM ET
It's not the same. Bernier was untested, and played 2nd fiddle to Quick his whole time in LA. Andersen is not Carey Price, but what he appears to be is a legitimate NHL starter that you can have confidence in. As a fan, I want that for the young kids this team will be giving ice time to.
- BetterCallSaul


Even just on a physical basis, Bernier is small by today's goalie standards and Andersen is a big man. Yeah that means nothing by itself, but watching some of the other talented big goalies on other teams this past year, I think it makes a difference.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 20 @ 11:02 PM ET
Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. They need a goalie.


They just traded for Andersen.


Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. Almost 10 mil on goalies.


Bernier only has a year left, which we don't expect this team to contend during anyways.


Ahaha Stoopid Leaves. Andersen isn't good.

- BetterCallSaul



This is exactly what happened here since the trade and signing were announced.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:04 PM ET
Or people saying Andersen is a backup like Bernier. Bernier was stuck behind Quick in LA, Andersen has significantly more experience than Bernier had.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jun 20 @ 11:05 PM ET
Risky move by the Leafs... reminds me of when the Leafs brought in Bernier. Looks like a mistake to me at face value but time will tell.
- MacPatty

I am surprised with the contract but I find the trade to be decent value and a good risk to take. Everyone would have been happy with them drafting some goalie at 30 so I don't mind trading the pick for a decent goalie that had proved he can play in the NHL and now time to see to what extent.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:05 PM ET
If we were to buyout Bernier, how much would we save?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 20 @ 11:09 PM ET
If we were to buyout Bernier, how much would we save?
- MCharisma91



$25 a month on our car insurance.



1.433m in savings this year, with a cap hit of 716k next year.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:15 PM ET
I heard Sabres where the #2 option the other day—have not heard anything since.

Apparently the Leafs WERE in the market for a goalie and willing to commit to $5.5 million a year. So that tells me they likely did at least talk to the Hawks about Crawford.

All I know is, I saw Freddy Andersen EPICLY melt down in the WCF in 2015—and get totally outplayed by Crawford. But Leaf fans are probably too busy planning their parade to consider that.

- John Jaeckel


All class eh John Jako..
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 11:15 PM ET
$25 a month on our car insurance.



1.433m in savings this year, with a cap hit of 716k next year.

- Steven_Seagull




just wondering, because John Shannon was saying it may be possible Leafs buy him out before the 30th.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:16 PM ET
Risky move by the Leafs... reminds me of when the Leafs brought in Bernier. Looks like a mistake to me at face value but time will tell.
- MacPatty


Lou knows goalies. He traded a top 10 pick for Cory Schneider. That worked out well for the Devils. Time will tell, but you have to look at what they gave up. The last pick in the first round and a third rounder.....neither where their own. We now have a starter, a possible asset in Bernier and an opportunity to go after a Kevin Shattenkirk for someone like Kadri. I am against a Stamkos signing, but see it more possible, after this deal. If they can indeed sign Stamkos and add a player like Shattenkirk, the rebuild is almost complete and they'll make a move into playoff contention this year.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 20 @ 11:17 PM ET
Even just on a physical basis, Bernier is small by today's goalie standards and Andersen is a big man. Yeah that means nothing by itself, but watching some of the other talented big goalies on other teams this past year, I think it makes a difference.
- Zezel


Big Lou said size is a "necessity" for goalies.

Andersen 6'4" 220
Berndella 6' 180

Lets hope Lou's right.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 20 @ 11:18 PM ET


just wondering, because John Shannon was saying it may be possible Leafs buy him out before the 30th.

- MCharisma91



It's possible. I hope the Leafs sign a veteran backup if that's the case. I don't want to see Sparks play again, unless of course we need help securing a bottom five finish.
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:18 PM ET
Lou knows goalies. He traded a top 10 pick for Cory Schneider. That worked out well for the Devils. Time will tell, but you have to look at what they gave up. The last pick in the first round and a third rounder.....neither where their own. We now have a starter, a possible asset in Bernier and an opportunity to go after a Kevin Shattenkirk for someone like Kadri. I am against a Stamkos signing, but see it more possible, after this deal. If they can indeed sign Stamkos and add a player like Shattenkirk, the rebuild is almost complete and they'll make a move into playoff contention this year.
- PrinceLH


This is the only reason I'm comfortable with the trade
the other part of me is saying "why the (frank) are we trading for another california team goalie"
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 11:19 PM ET
Lou knows goalies. He traded a top 10 pick for Cory Schneider. That worked out well for the Devils. Time will tell, but you have to look at what they gave up. The last pick in the first round and a third rounder.....neither where their own. We now have a starter, a possible asset in Bernier and an opportunity to go after a Kevin Shattenkirk for someone like Kadri. I am against a Stamkos signing, but see it more possible, after this deal. If they can indeed sign Stamkos and add a player like Shattenkirk, the rebuild is almost complete and they'll make a move into playoff contention this year.
- PrinceLH

It's so great you finally came out of that coma - we were worried about you.

But a few things happened since you bumped your head last October.

Let's start with Bernier's play...
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jun 20 @ 11:20 PM ET
Conference call with andersen

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4KzshAlv_yI
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:21 PM ET
Lou knows goalies. He traded a top 10 pick for Cory Schneider. That worked out well for the Devils. Time will tell, but you have to look at what they gave up. The last pick in the first round and a third rounder.....neither where their own. We now have a starter, a possible asset in Bernier and an opportunity to go after a Kevin Shattenkirk for someone like Kadri. I am against a Stamkos signing, but see it more possible, after this deal. If they can indeed sign Stamkos and add a player like Shattenkirk, the rebuild is almost complete and they'll make a move into playoff contention this year.
- PrinceLH

the past has no bearing on the present. it doesnt matter if Schneider can stop pucks its up to andersen to do it in toronto.

and for the last time no to trading kadri for these losers yous want on the blueline
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 20 @ 11:22 PM ET
the past has no bearing on the present. it doesnt matter if Schneider can stop pucks its up to andersen to do it in toronto.

and for the last time no to trading kadri for these losers yous want on the blueline

- Arctic_AARDVARK


how is this even being suggested anymore? the signing clearly shows what the leafs management think of kadri
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jun 20 @ 11:23 PM ET


All class eh John Jako..

- nbboy


Guy is a complete bag of richards. No different than the majority of Hawks fans. Their team wins, so he must be the smartest guy in the room. I don't see any Leafs fans saying Andersen makes the Leafs a contender... just being happy that we have a starter that has more promise than Bernier.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:25 PM ET
It's so great you finally came out of that coma - we were worried about you.

But a few things happened since you bumped your head last October.

Let's start with Bernier's play...

- Atomic Wedgie


The reason that Bernier is a possible asset, is the need by many teams for experienced goaltenders. Brian Burke has kicked the tires on Bernier a number of times. As the UFA goaltenders or goaltenders on the market are snapped up, Bernier becomes a possible target at a modest price. Could he get a third? Maybe a salary dump for a year plus a pick.

I don't know why you think that I bumped my head last October. I was totally on board for the Tank and wanted them to finish dead last and take their best shot at number 1. Now that they have it, it clarifies and solidifies their centre position. It's been needed for a decade. I'm not sold on Stamkos, not because of his talent, but his cap hit. To add Stamkos on the 30th place team, with no goaltending and substandard defense, it would have been a waste and would have downgraded future drafting positions. It only makes sense if we have a great goalie and come up with a top 2 defenseman. The goaltender is now in the fold, now we need that defenseman. Shattenkirk fits the bill.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 11:28 PM ET
the past has no bearing on the present. it doesnt matter if Schneider can stop pucks its up to andersen to do it in toronto.

and for the last time no to trading kadri for these losers yous want on the blueline

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Where does Kadri fit, if we end up signing Stamkos and draft Matthews? Third line centre? Better to shore up the defense, if we have two great centre's ahead of him. You'd get more for Kadri and could use Bozak on the third line for a couple of more years.
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