I know he won't. Because I have not posted anything.
- Iggysbff

Congrats. You want a cookie?

Makita is fair......Micah is less tolerant.
- golfingsince

I've had both hot on my heels for a while

I don't think the Oilers can afford to be picky with having a RHD. I say if Yandle, Goligoski or another good lefty is available for trade they can't be afraid to stike a deal. They can try to find a righty during the season or next summer.

I saw something.......
- golfingsince

Not in the last 6 months

I don't think the Oilers can afford to be picky with having a RHD. I say if Yandle, Goligoski or another good lefty is available for trade they can't be afraid to stike a deal. They can try to find a righty during the season or next summer.
- Vanillaface

Yandle and Goligoski are UFA. If its looking like there are no rhd to get then they may end up going for one of them and having Sekera play right. He played right quite a bit before. Not ideal but may be a last resort.

Flames man here.

Why does everyone insist on picking a forward with their #4, and then trading away someone like Hall, Eberle, and RNH for an established D, which are not only limited, but trade value of any good defenceman is at an all-time high. I'm talking cap issues, and short-terms in which they might not be able to resign?

In front of you is an automatic #1 D within 2 years in Juolevi, Chychrun, and maybe Sergachev in a bit more. Guaranteed 3 years with a rookie contract, into RFA territory.

Would probably wind up being:
Erik Johnson (NMC)
Francois Beauchemin (NMC)
Tyson Barrie
Nikita Zadarov
Nathan MacKinnon
Matt Duchene
Gabriel Landeskog
Carl Soderberg / Mikhail Grigorenko (not sure who's considered more valuable)
Semyon Varlomov

Notable players exposed:
Jarome Iginla
Carl Soderberg / Mikhail Grigorenko
Eric Gelinas (is he notable?)

I'd rather risk losing one of those guys than risk losing any of those 4 d.

Also here's this in case you'd actually like to look at this stuff before just spouting poop out of your mouth http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/expansion
- Girouxsalem90

Cool. That was what I was looking for. Colorado might be one of a few that go this route. Most people simply have more forwards to protect but that is obvious. There are just more forwards than defense man in the league and not all teams have a 4th guy they think will be poached. Especially when you think of teams like St. Louis, Chicago, Pens, Boston... that have serious depth up front. These guys have to be more of a target than the Oil for defense men anyways.

Flames man here.

Why does everyone insist on picking a forward with their #4, and then trading away someone like Hall, Eberle, and RNH for an established D, which are not only limited, but trade value of any good defenceman is at an all-time high. I'm talking cap issues, and short-terms in which they might not be able to resign?

In front of you is an automatic #1 D within 2 years in Juolevi, Chychrun, and maybe Sergachev in a bit more. Guaranteed 3 years with a rookie contract, into RFA territory.
- BobHartley

I just think Tkachuk is better suited than Ebs on Mcdavid's wing.

Yandle and Goligoski are UFA. If its looking like there are no rhd to get then they may end up going for one of them and having Sekera play right. He played right quite a bit before. Not ideal but may be a last resort.
- Iggysbff

Yandle rights to Panthers now. Oilers might have to get into this game and try to snag Demers rights

I don't think the Oilers can afford to be picky with having a RHD. I say if Yandle, Goligoski or another good lefty is available for trade they can't be afraid to stike a deal. They can try to find a righty during the season or next summer.
- Vanillaface

Yeah I have to agree. Plus the Oilers don't really have a top LHD. They are deep on that side but I wouldn't call any of them a number 1 guy or at least so good that he can't play second line. I like Klef's chances and I haven't given up on Nurse being a top pairing but none of them are there now. If the worst that happens is the Oilers sign a top LHD and later get a top RHD which forces them to trade one of their current lefties, that is a good problem to have. Way better than passing on someone because it makes it marginally easier for him along the boards. I mean, lets call a spade a spade, these are professional athletes. Forwards often switch sides, it is not that hard for a defender. Having two good LHD is way better than having no top pairing guys.

The Leafs are getting business done... wish Chia would follow suit.

Flames man here.

Why does everyone insist on picking a forward with their #4, and then trading away someone like Hall, Eberle, and RNH for an established D, which are not only limited, but trade value of any good defenceman is at an all-time high. I'm talking cap issues, and short-terms in which they might not be able to resign?

In front of you is an automatic #1 D within 2 years in Juolevi, Chychrun, and maybe Sergachev in a bit more. Guaranteed 3 years with a rookie contract, into RFA territory.
- BobHartley

Because this is a mighty huge stretch. No guarantees any of them become a top pair let alone a #1.

How many first round dmen have become #1 D in 2 years over the past 10 years? A couple?

What do you guys think of the leafs-ducks trade? Put leafs hatred on hold for the moment of course. If you can.

What do you guys think of the leafs-ducks trade? Put leafs hatred on hold for the moment of course. If you can.
- shack67

Who gives a poop? Ducks got a great deal.

What do you guys think of the leafs-ducks trade? Put leafs hatred on hold for the moment of course. If you can.
- shack67

Decent hockey deal. Both franchises got what they needed.

Yandle rights to Panthers now. Oilers might have to get into this game and try to snag Demers rights
- DDM-Coga

Sounds like Shattenkirk extended and close to going to Boston too...

Yet all quiet on the Oil front.

Flames man here.

Why does everyone insist on picking a forward with their #4, and then trading away someone like Hall, Eberle, and RNH for an established D, which are not only limited, but trade value of any good defenceman is at an all-time high. I'm talking cap issues, and short-terms in which they might not be able to resign?

In front of you is an automatic #1 D within 2 years in Juolevi, Chychrun, and maybe Sergachev in a bit more. Guaranteed 3 years with a rookie contract, into RFA territory.
- BobHartley

I think you pointed to it. There is no real consensus of who the top defender is this year and the Oilers have not had much luck developing a top pairing defense man. Last year I think most people thought Griffin would be good, he was drafted high. Now people hope he can become a second pairing at best. Defenders and goalies are much more of a gamble than forwards. Plus there is a clear top 5 in this draft and they are all forwards. Some years, like with Seth or Ekblad, there is a defender there but these Dubois, Pulj or Tckachuk are all too good to pass on. These guys could arguably fight for a spot this year (although that most likely won't happen) and in two years I think any of these three would be a walk onto the NHL club. Trading an established forward is a small price to pay as this new pick will be on an ELC. The Oil will someday have to part with a top guy. It is incredibly rare that any team picks position-ally over best player available in the first round. Especially in the top 5.

Sounds like Shattenkirk extended and close to going to Boston too...

Yet all quiet on the Oil front.
- Iggysbff

This is driving me nuts.

Not in the last 6 months
- Iggysbff

You don't want me to find it....

Sounds like Shattenkirk extended and close to going to Boston too...

Yet all quiet on the Oil front.
- Iggysbff

What sources?

What sources?
- Wildschwein

Dreger and others

What do you guys think of the leafs-ducks trade? Put leafs hatred on hold for the moment of course. If you can.
- shack67

Great move for both. Anahiem gets a first round pick and a player they don't have to protect during expansion (they couldn't have protected Anderson) for their backup. Toronto gets a solid goalie that is only Ana backup because Gibson is amazing. Toronto needed a goalie and addressed it before the draft getting what I think is one of the top tenders on the market. Oilers paid more than that for Talbot and he was less established than Anderson is. I think Toronto gets the better end but only because they had to find a starter. Anahiem will most likely get a solid prospect which is the best they could really hope for. They don't have that much cap space that they could have held out for a veteran forward.

I do think Anahiem might have got a better offer but this is a sure thing and is taken care of before the draft which helps them when talking trades for Lindoholm or Vatenen (if they trade either).

Dreger and others
- Iggysbff

Might as well scratch another one off the list then.

Decent hockey deal. Both franchises got what they needed.
- Wildschwein

I don't think I've ever seen him play. Living in this god awful time zone it means staying up half the night.

I don't think I've ever seen him play. Living in this god awful time zone it means staying up half the night.
- shack67

He's a solid tender. You guys won this trade for sure.