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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
RNH
- Clyde334


big if true
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 20 @ 3:07 PM ET
big if true
- DDM-Coga

Backes out, RNH in.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:08 PM ET
Who's whip? And I just wish Jenny could be as good as Horse face...
- Clyde334


Whip is just a guy who couldnt cut it in this town,
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
Who's whip? And I just wish Jenny could be as good as Horse face...
- Clyde334

Unfortunately she can't.

Great cover by the way...no one could ever see through Whipper334- clyde334
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 20 @ 3:12 PM ET
Unfortunately she can't.

Great cover by the way...no one could ever see through Whipper334- clyde334

- Iggysbff

I'm a little hurt!
Clyde334
Calgary Flames
Location: OG loves Nenshi!! Nenshi sucks!!, AB
Joined: 06.19.2016

Jun 20 @ 3:14 PM ET
No I dont think thats it, I heard that Big Ern dominated too much and he couldnt handle the flames thread
- DDM-Coga

RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 20 @ 3:15 PM ET
I'm sure Pysyk is available
- ShayneCorsi


Rather him than (frank)ing Weber...
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 20 @ 3:17 PM ET
how bad a message would that send if Snow refused to deal Hamonic all year, then moved him when his trade request was rescinded.

I cannot see that happening. a player stays loyal to the Isles on a fantastic contract and is one of the leaders on the team and imo our best defenseman, and you'd move him now?

- Isles_since_6


Leddy, Boychuk, Hamonic and Pulock.

Who are you protecting in expansion?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
No I dont think thats it, I heard that Big Ern dominated too much and he couldnt handle the flames thread
- DDM-Coga

Bigern and Dinorhondelly keep that place on lock down.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
Leddy, Boychuk, Hamonic and Pulock.

Who are you protecting in expansion?

- RonPielep


exempt
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 20 @ 3:20 PM ET
Evidently rhyming is frowned upon in this establishment


With the Isles having Boychuk and Hamonic on the right side, I wonder if getting Pullock would be possible. I know the Islanders fans think highly of him and would never trade him, but maybe?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:20 PM ET
Bigern and Dinorhondelly keep that place on lock down.
- Iggysbff


that place isnt even fun, they are just all butt hurt serious all the time
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
Leddy, Boychuk, Hamonic and Pulock.

Who are you protecting in expansion?

- RonPielep

Boychuk automatically because of his no move. I dont think Pulock needs protected.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 20 @ 3:25 PM ET
exempt
- DDM-Coga


No sir. Well maybe if he doesn't play a single game next season but so far Pulock already has 2 pro seasons under his belt, next season will be the third and he won't be exempt.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 20 @ 3:26 PM ET
Boychuk automatically because of his no move. I dont think Pulock needs protected.
- Iggysbff


I think he does. Already 2 full AHL seasons.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:29 PM ET
I think Chiarelli is going to get this fixed and I think the Oilers will be serious players in the post season. Need to stop trying to figure out who is available. More important to define and let it be known who might be available for the right deal.

Theoretically you might just get one of the top 5 Dmen in the league if the #4 pick is made available in combination with one of Nuge or Yakupov and one of Hall, Eberle or Draisaitl. I am not proposing a particular deal. Oil fans go into panic mode as soon as trades are suggested. But you need to think in terms of "possible" before you get to what might just work.

How about Eberle, Draisaitl and the #4 for the Norris winner (Doughty or Karlsson or Burns)?

For lesser players you can tone down the offer. But, once Chiarelli makes it known he is going big he will have lots of trading partners step up to the plate.

I also think there is a huge potential for a deal with Columbus who is struggling to get Jones under the cap. My guess Jones and Hartnell for the #4 and Draisaitl would probably be a great deal for both teams.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 20 @ 3:34 PM ET
I think Chiarelli is going to get this fixed and I think the Oilers will be serious players in the post season. Need to stop trying to figure out who is available. More important to define and let it be known who might be available for the right deal.

Theoretically you might just get one of the top 5 Dmen in the league if the #4 pick is made available in combination with one of Nuge or Yakupov and one of Hall, Eberle or Draisaitl. I am not proposing a particular deal. Oil fans go into panic mode as soon as trades are suggested. But you need to think in terms of "possible" before you get to what might just work.

How about Eberle, Draisaitl and the #4 for the Norris winner (Doughty or Karlsson or Burns)?

For lesser players you can tone down the offer. But, once Chiarelli makes it known he is going big he will have lots of trading partners step up to the plate.

I also think there is a huge potential for a deal with Columbus who is struggling to get Jones under the cap. My guess Jones and Hartnell for the #4 and Draisaitl would probably be a great deal for both teams.

- spatso


I cant see them trading Jones tho as they just got him last year and seem keen to making him a big part of their blueline for the future....if he does become available then of course PC should look into it but I think thats a last resort for the BlueJackets
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
I think Chiarelli is going to get this fixed and I think the Oilers will be serious players in the post season. Need to stop trying to figure out who is available. More important to define and let it be known who might be available for the right deal.

Theoretically you might just get one of the top 5 Dmen in the league if the #4 pick is made available in combination with one of Nuge or Yakupov and one of Hall, Eberle or Draisaitl. I am not proposing a particular deal. Oil fans go into panic mode as soon as trades are suggested. But you need to think in terms of "possible" before you get to what might just work.

How about Eberle, Draisaitl and the #4 for the Norris winner (Doughty or Karlsson or Burns)?

For lesser players you can tone down the offer. But, once Chiarelli makes it known he is going big he will have lots of trading partners step up to the plate.

I also think there is a huge potential for a deal with Columbus who is struggling to get Jones under the cap. My guess Jones and Hartnell for the #4 and Draisaitl would probably be a great deal for both teams.

- spatso

Dear lord.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
Sorry Hendo. Normally I agree with a lot of your blog but not this one. I think one of us doesn't know the definition of ineptitude. Or maybe I didn't understand what you were getting at. It would take a lot to get the players from their teams or it would take stupidity on the part of Oilers management?

I also don't think that the league is all looking for the same thing that the Oilers are. I do agree that there is a finite number of top pairing defense men (I don't consider Hamonic to be one). However there are a lot of teams that need top line centers or goalies more. Minnesota for example needs to shed salary from their blue line to grab a top line center.

Decent defenders and Centers are available via FA. People can argue that the Oilers have no chance of signing one of these but someone will which leaves less teams to compete for those on the trade block. There are also a bunch of things to consider. Teams can only protect a certain number of players during the expansion which will most likely happen next season. Some teams have to consider that if they don't trade a player or two now might end up getting less return later assuming the trade deadline being the last real chance to trade.

Calgary, Colorado, Minnesota, Columbus, Buffalo, Anahiem... are just a few of the teams that might be willing to trade an unprotected defender for picks or a key player. I know a lot of these are not likely to trade with Edmonton as they are division rivals but I think that the number of possible trade partners due to the number of teams with cap problems is limited. Rumor is that Minnesota inquired about RNH for Brodin and Dumba. Not sure this is the solution for either team or what else would be involved in this trade but there are teams out there looking to trade.

IMO I think signing an FA is the way to go. Whether that an offer sheet or a UFA. I think it would be better at this point to take a higher cap hit than to part with a core player.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
Teams that need to make a deal or expose good players to expansion:

Jets, Preds, Ducks, Rangers, Lightning, St Louis. Maybe more once ufas/rfas get signed.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
Sorry Hendo. Normally I agree with a lot of your blog but not this one. I think one of us doesn't know the definition of ineptitude. Or maybe I didn't understand what you were getting at. It would take a lot to get the players from their teams or it would take stupidity on the part of Oilers management?

I also don't think that the league is all looking for the same thing that the Oilers are. I do agree that there is a finite number of top pairing defense men (I don't consider Hamonic to be one). However there are a lot of teams that need top line centers or goalies more. Minnesota for example needs to shed salary from their blue line to grab a top line center.

Decent defenders and Centers are available via FA. People can argue that the Oilers have no chance of signing one of these but someone will which leaves less teams to compete for those on the trade block. There are also a bunch of things to consider. Teams can only protect a certain number of players during the expansion which will most likely happen next season. Some teams have to consider that if they don't trade a player or two now might end up getting less return later assuming the trade deadline being the last real chance to trade.

Calgary, Colorado, Minnesota, Columbus, Buffalo, Anahiem... are just a few of the teams that might be willing to trade an unprotected defender for picks or a key player. I know a lot of these are not likely to trade with Edmonton as they are division rivals but I think that the number of possible trade partners due to the number of teams with cap problems is limited. Rumor is that Minnesota inquired about RNH for Brodin and Dumba. Not sure this is the solution for either team or what else would be involved in this trade but there are teams out there looking to trade.

IMO I think signing an FA is the way to go. Whether that an offer sheet or a UFA. I think it would be better at this point to take a higher cap hit than to part with a core player.

- Hall Fan

I'd say both of you.

Did you see my offer to you on the last thread? You too chicken to put your money where your mouth is?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:43 PM ET
I think Chiarelli is going to get this fixed and I think the Oilers will be serious players in the post season. Need to stop trying to figure out who is available. More important to define and let it be known who might be available for the right deal.

Theoretically you might just get one of the top 5 Dmen in the league if the #4 pick is made available in combination with one of Nuge or Yakupov and one of Hall, Eberle or Draisaitl. I am not proposing a particular deal. Oil fans go into panic mode as soon as trades are suggested. But you need to think in terms of "possible" before you get to what might just work.

How about Eberle, Draisaitl and the #4 for the Norris winner (Doughty or Karlsson or Burns)?

For lesser players you can tone down the offer. But, once Chiarelli makes it known he is going big he will have lots of trading partners step up to the plate.

I also think there is a huge potential for a deal with Columbus who is struggling to get Jones under the cap. My guess Jones and Hartnell for the #4 and Draisaitl would probably be a great deal for both teams.

- spatso


I'm thinking you don't know who Draisaitl is......like he's a throw in.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 20 @ 3:44 PM ET
Sorry Hendo. Normally I agree with a lot of your blog but not this one. I think one of us doesn't know the definition of ineptitude. Or maybe I didn't understand what you were getting at. It would take a lot to get the players from their teams or it would take stupidity on the part of Oilers management?

I also don't think that the league is all looking for the same thing that the Oilers are. I do agree that there is a finite number of top pairing defense men (I don't consider Hamonic to be one). However there are a lot of teams that need top line centers or goalies more. Minnesota for example needs to shed salary from their blue line to grab a top line center.

Decent defenders and Centers are available via FA. People can argue that the Oilers have no chance of signing one of these but someone will which leaves less teams to compete for those on the trade block. There are also a bunch of things to consider. Teams can only protect a certain number of players during the expansion which will most likely happen next season. Some teams have to consider that if they don't trade a player or two now might end up getting less return later assuming the trade deadline being the last real chance to trade.

Calgary, Colorado, Minnesota, Columbus, Buffalo, Anahiem... are just a few of the teams that might be willing to trade an unprotected defender for picks or a key player. I know a lot of these are not likely to trade with Edmonton as they are division rivals but I think that the number of possible trade partners due to the number of teams with cap problems is limited. Rumor is that Minnesota inquired about RNH for Brodin and Dumba. Not sure this is the solution for either team or what else would be involved in this trade but there are teams out there looking to trade.

IMO I think signing an FA is the way to go. Whether that an offer sheet or a UFA. I think it would be better at this point to take a higher cap hit than to part with a core player.

- Hall Fan


Which is highly ironic because you certainly define it.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 3:45 PM ET
Which is highly ironic because you certainly define it.
- golfingsince

Even Canuck fans can see it
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Jun 20 @ 3:46 PM ET
Sorry Hendo. Normally I agree with a lot of your blog but not this one. I think one of us doesn't know the definition of ineptitude. Or maybe I didn't understand what you were getting at. It would take a lot to get the players from their teams or it would take stupidity on the part of Oilers management?

I also don't think that the league is all looking for the same thing that the Oilers are. I do agree that there is a finite number of top pairing defense men (I don't consider Hamonic to be one). However there are a lot of teams that need top line centers or goalies more. Minnesota for example needs to shed salary from their blue line to grab a top line center.

Decent defenders and Centers are available via FA. People can argue that the Oilers have no chance of signing one of these but someone will which leaves less teams to compete for those on the trade block. There are also a bunch of things to consider. Teams can only protect a certain number of players during the expansion which will most likely happen next season. Some teams have to consider that if they don't trade a player or two now might end up getting less return later assuming the trade deadline being the last real chance to trade.

Calgary, Colorado, Minnesota, Columbus, Buffalo, Anahiem... are just a few of the teams that might be willing to trade an unprotected defender for picks or a key player. I know a lot of these are not likely to trade with Edmonton as they are division rivals but I think that the number of possible trade partners due to the number of teams with cap problems is limited. Rumor is that Minnesota inquired about RNH for Brodin and Dumba. Not sure this is the solution for either team or what else would be involved in this trade but there are teams out there looking to trade.

IMO I think signing an FA is the way to go. Whether that an offer sheet or a UFA. I think it would be better at this point to take a higher cap hit than to part with a core player.

- Hall Fan



ever stop to think that perhaps the core is broken after so many years of losing and perhaps moving one or two of them could just help everyone involved? also at this point it shouldnt matter how we get help on the blueline just as long as we get it....either it be trades or through free agency
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