Yup back on April 1st.
- Iggysbff

Damn- the guy was terribly young... Sorry to hear... One of his pets do him in or?

Amazing Chia is signing no-names like its going out of style of late... Looks like it might be more of the rinse recycle repeat bullpoop we've witnessed for the last 6+ years
- saskoil21

Whats wrong with resigning a guy that should be resigned? It's not like there were any heavy negotiations. Give it till July 5th before giving up so hard.

I'd entertain it. I'd prefer to keep Hall but if he's the piece it takes to actually get a top pairing Dman like Hamonic. Hamonic, Nelson, and a prospect gets the conversation started for me.
- MaximumBone

Not sure why they would do it. Someone was saying Boychuk as the starter because chia knows him and being from Edmonton etc but that's not even close to a guy I deal Hall for.

Because little whiners like Hallfan hit the flag button.
- Iggysbff

This act of reporting other adults cause their internet words offended someone is grade school FFS... don't get it... its pathetic...

Damn- the guy was terribly young... Sorry to hear... One of his pets do him in or?
- saskoil21

I don't know if anyone got the official word but his obit was posted. Just assumed an OD.

Whats wrong with resigning a guy that should be resigned? It's not like there were any heavy negotiations. Give it till July 5th before giving up so hard.
- MaximumBone

Maybe Osterle is a different case- but Pitlick really is a waste... I hope I am wrong but...

Not sure why they would do it. Someone was saying Boychuk as the starter because chia knows him and being from Edmonton etc but that's not even close to a guy I deal Hall for.
- Iggysbff

They as in New York? If they're losing Okposo, they have some strong need for a scoring winger and would still have Boychuk, Leddy, DeHaan, and Pulock as a solid top-4.

I don't know if anyone got the official word but his obit was posted. Just assumed an OD.
- Iggysbff

Wow- I guess he did what he loved to do... rather unfortunate tho...

Maybe Osterle is a different case- but Pitlick really is a waste... I hope I am wrong but...
- saskoil21

Agreed on that point. I think Oesterle can be an effective and cheap bottom-3 guy.

They as in New York? If they're losing Okposo, they have some strong need for a scoring winger and would still have Boychuk, Leddy, DeHaan, and Pulock as a solid top-4.
- MaximumBone

I guess if they are that high on Pulock? Hamonic is pretty key for them right now though.
Dehaan isn't that great. He'll be exposed in expansion.

I guess if they are that high on Pulock? Hamonic is pretty key for them right now though.
Dehaan isn't that great. He'll be exposed in expansion.
- Iggysbff

Oh, he's not great, but nor was/is Petry. Still an effective second pairing Dman. I'm not certain, but they seem to be VERY high on the guy. I get your point, though. Depends on what they value more.

Thoughts on trading down and trying to acquire 2 top 15 picks to select D-men??

Seems Mgmt is, and probably will struggle to acquire the back end help we desperately need. Drafting will be our only option. Tough pill to swallow

Thoughts on trading down and trying to acquire 2 top 15 picks to select D-men??

Seems Mgmt is, and probably will struggle to acquire the back end help we desperately need. Drafting will be our only option. Tough pill to swallow
- nanook82

If we can't get a top-3 Dman for the pick, I'd be fine with moving down to 8th if we got Pysyk or Girgensons alongside the pick. A good 3rd pairing option with or 3C and being able to comfortably pick a Dman (Sergachev, ideally). We'd still be getting a very high quality prospect while also adding depth.

Like Yandle or Goligoski or not they are both 2 of the big names on the UFA list. Can't help thinking that the Oilers should be looking at parting with their 5 th round pick for the rights to someone. Seems like a necessary evil. Not sure who the Oilers are targeting. I think Hamhuis and Campbell might fill their needs on short term deals. I think they have enough in them to handle a couple more years at least. Can't help but worry that the Oilers will sign someone like Demers to a deal like Sekeras's and pass him off as a top line dman. I really hope they can put a deal together for someone like Shattenkirk.

If we can't get a top-3 Dman for the pick, I'd be fine with moving down to 8th if we got Pysyk or Girgensons alongside the pick. A good 3rd pairing option with or 3C and being able to comfortably pick a Dman (Sergachev, ideally). We'd still be getting a very high quality prospect while also adding depth.
- MaximumBone

I don't know if any team will be able to offer those types of picks. I do see teams wanting to trade up because Tkachuk or Dubois is coveted by them. Probably in that order giving Tkachuk's ties to certain NHL teams. I am just not sold on any one dmen. They all seem decent but I am not sure about any of them. Some mock drafts show Sergachev as high as 4th and others don't have him in the top 10. There are some that have Bean, Juolevi and Serg in the top 10 and others with just one or two of them. I think this year it might be worth picking where they are (if they can't trade it for a legit dman). Dubois or Tkachuk are both elite forwards that look pretty guaranteed to be top 6 material guys. They might be cheap replacements if we need to trade one of our core guys to keep McDavid in the future.

Sorry in advance to others for the length of my retort.

I don't know if any team will be able to offer those types of picks. I do see teams wanting to trade up because Tkachuk or Dubois is coveted by them. Probably in that order giving Tkachuk's ties to certain NHL teams. I am just not sold on any one dmen. They all seem decent but I am not sure about any of them. Some mock drafts show Sergachev as high as 4th and others don't have him in the top 10. There are some that have Bean, Juolevi and Serg in the top 10 and others with just one or two of them. I think this year it might be worth picking where they are (if they can't trade it for a legit dman). Dubois or Tkachuk are both elite forwards that look pretty guaranteed to be top 6 material guys. They might be cheap replacements if we need to trade one of our core guys to keep McDavid in the future.
- Hall Fan

There's the rub, these top-3 D in the draft are also elite prospects. I don't get why anyone is worried about replacing any of our forwards. Assuming McDavid, Draisaitl, and one of Hall, Nuge, and Eberle sticks around, that's a comparable top-3 offensive players to any competitive team in the league.

If you look at the best teams in the league, most of them operate with 3 high scoring (55+ points) forwards and one high scoring Dman (40+ points)- give or take one to either category.

Kane, Panarin, Toews, Keith, and Seabrook

Benn, Seguin, Spezza, Sharp, and Klingberg

Kopitar, Carter, Toffoli, Muzzin, and Doughty

Thornton, Couture (inj), Pavelski, Marleau/Hertl (high 40s), and Burns

Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Hornqvist, and Letang

Johnson (inj), Stamkos, Kucherov, Palat (inj), and Hedman

Tarasenko, Stastny (inj), Steen (inj), Shattenkirk, and Pietrangelo (inj)

McDavid, Draisaitl, Hall/Eberle/Nuge, ________, and MAYBE Klefbom

What all those teams have that Edmonton lacks is a strong D corps and sufficient depth (capable of scoring 25-40 points) to fill in for/with those players when times get tough. So why oh WHY is it such a task to trade one or more of our "golden kids" without having a perfect, near-exact replacement?

Sorry in advance to others for the length of my retort.


There's the rub, these top-3 D in the draft are also elite prospects. I don't get why anyone is worried about replacing any of our forwards. Assuming McDavid, Draisaitl, and one of Hall, Nuge, and Eberle sticks around, that's a comparable top-3 offensive players to any competitive team in the league.

If you look at the best teams in the league, most of them operate with 3 high scoring (55+ points) forwards and one high scoring Dman (40+ points)- give or take one to either category.

Kane, Panarin, Toews, Keith, and Seabrook

Benn, Seguin, Spezza, Sharp, and Klingberg

Kopitar, Carter, Toffoli, Muzzin, and Doughty

Thornton, Couture (inj), Pavelski, Marleau/Hertl (high 40s), and Burns

Crosby, Malkin, Kessel, Hornqvist, and Letang

Johnson (inj), Stamkos, Kucherov, Palat (inj), and Hedman

Tarasenko, Stastny (inj), Steen (inj), Shattenkirk, and Pietrangelo (inj)

McDavid, Draisaitl, Hall/Eberle/Nuge, ________, and MAYBE Klefbom

What all those teams have that Edmonton lacks is a strong D corps and sufficient depth (capable of scoring 25-40 points) to fill in for/with those players when times get tough. So why oh WHY is it such a task to trade one or more of our "golden kids" without having a perfect, near-exact replacement?
- MaximumBone

I think the difference between the Oiler's and those teams is just the sheer depth. Time and time again when I watch Oilers games, I see poopty D-zone coverage leaving poor Cam exposed to frustrated at his team. At this point, you need a complete D revamp, keeping only Klefbom 1st line, Sekera 2nd, and maybe Nurse 3rd (no, he hasn't shown me to be anything better. Just being physical doesn't mean anything). Kings have Muzzin, Martinez as reliable support. Sharks have Vlasic, Martin.. and so on.

One more point. No team in this league is trading away their #1 point-getting D (except the 2015 Bruins, heh) Best bet is a #2, which is going for at least a 1st rd + much more. Those sorts of #1 must be built through the drafts

Honestly, if the Oilers had some solid puck-moving defenseman, they could be top 5 in NHL scoring.
Imo, it's an easy decision in the Oilers drafting Juolevi. #1 potential on the Oilers, puck-mover, smart, can get points, and is reliable defensively. The most important thing you want out of your bottom 4 D is defensive reliability. That's it. No points? That's ok. No physicality? Also ok. Just be reliable until your top 2 come on the ice for the points/PPs.

But sure, go draft another winger (not because the Flames want one or anything)

Honestly, if the Oilers had some solid puck-moving defenseman, they could be top 5 in NHL scoring.
Imo, it's an easy decision in the Oilers drafting Juolevi. #1 potential on the Oilers, puck-mover, smart, can get points, and is reliable defensively. The most important thing you want out of your bottom 4 D is defensive reliability. That's it. No points? That's ok. No physicality? Also ok. Just be reliable until your top 2 come on the ice for the points/PPs.

But sure, go draft another winger (not because the Flames want one or anything)
- BobHartley

Don't care what the flames need. Don't care to block them in hopes of getting them better. Fact of the matter is, is that the Oilers need an immediate upgrade, not a upgrade in 2 years, on their D. And not just their D, but in their top 2, as a right shooting D who can tally a few points in the o, but most specifically get the puck out of their zone without icing it. Needs to be offensively competent with a very strong presence in their own zone of a break out, not just a break up.

Shut your stupid whore mouth Jero. Pantera was amazing! Dimebag was a god!
- NEONDOUBLEDION

I like them. (frank)ing Hostile is nice ballad.

Like Yandle or Goligoski or not they are both 2 of the big names on the UFA list. Can't help thinking that the Oilers should be looking at parting with their 5 th round pick for the rights to someone. Seems like a necessary evil. Not sure who the Oilers are targeting. I think Hamhuis and Campbell might fill their needs on short term deals. I think they have enough in them to handle a couple more years at least. Can't help but worry that the Oilers will sign someone like Demers to a deal like Sekeras's and pass him off as a top line dman. I really hope they can put a deal together for someone like Shattenkirk.
- Hall Fan

You can rip on Sekeras all you want, but A) he's an upgrade over Petry, B) he's our best Defender, and C) his contract is pretty fair UFA value.


Time you take that Bleach and Amonia bath?

I think the difference between the Oiler's and those teams is just the sheer depth. Time and time again when I watch Oilers games, I see poopty D-zone coverage leaving poor Cam exposed to frustrated at his team. At this point, you need a complete D revamp, keeping only Klefbom 1st line, Sekera 2nd, and maybe Nurse 3rd (no, he hasn't shown me to be anything better. Just being physical doesn't mean anything). Kings have Muzzin, Martinez as reliable support. Sharks have Vlasic, Martin.. and so on.

One more point. No team in this league is trading away their #1 point-getting D (except the 2015 Bruins, heh) Best bet is a #2, which is going for at least a 1st rd + much more. Those sorts of #1 must be built through the drafts
- BobHartley

You're not wrong, but the depth is coming (with LHD anyway). Even if we got one stud Righty for the top pair, it makes everyone better because they won't have to play out of position or log too many minutes and so on down the line.

Hell, I can live with Gryba and Davidson on the 3rd pair , and even Fayne and Sekeras on the 2nd. Klefbom and whomever, if he's that good, for 30 minutes a night is a huge upgrade.

This act of reporting other adults cause their internet words offended someone is grade school FFS... don't get it... its pathetic...
- saskoil21

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- batjester

survived the night without being banned

Just offer sheet Jones and then try to work a deal with columbus