Garrison is a top 4 lhd on most teams. He was behind edler and hamhuis here though. And he'd be behind Hutton and Sbisa end edler now. We needed to move a NTC and did. Quite beingbeing a little yapping female mutt every week unless you're prepared to be mounted on the wall trophy style like one.

But other then that, solid post striker
- Pres.cup

Behind them?

I highly doubt it.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sam-cosentinos-2016-nhl-mock-draft/

We get JP at 5?
- we_are_all_canucks

Shhhhh...

Nobody wants that scrub.
Tkatchuk, Dubois, Sergachev and Nylander are way better options.


fingers crossed.

If Sam CosneWHO?no says it's true, it's locked down.

Garrison is a top 4 lhd on most teams. He was behind edler and hamhuis here though. And he'd be behind Hutton and Sbisa end edler now. We needed to move a NTC and did. Quite beingbeing a little yapping female mutt every week unless you're prepared to be mounted on the wall trophy style like one.

But other then that, solid post striker
- Pres.cup

Behind them?

I highly doubt it.
- golfingsince

Gotcha. Would have stalled Hutton. Sbisa is close to garrison at 1 million less

Gotcha
- Pres.cup

Behind them?

I highly doubt it.
- golfingsince

He is definitely behind EG, Hutton, Edler and Tanev. I would also put him below Tree give his age and upside. Sbisa...it depends if we get 2014 or 2015 Sbisa. Nobody seems willing to change their opinions of the guy even though he has clearly improved. We can't afford to pay $4.5MM for a number 6.

He is definitely behind EG, Hutton, Edler and Tanev. I would also put him below Tree give his age and upside. Sbisa...it depends if we get 2014 or 2015 Sbisa. Nobody seems willing to change their opinions of the guy even though he has clearly improved. We can't afford to pay $4.5MM for a number 6.
- CanuckDon

He's behind Tanev and Edler for sure. He's probably 2nd pairing with EG.

Just because Sbisa has improved doesn't mean he's good......and that's our $4.2 wasted on a #6. Tree has played what 8 NHL games? Hutton 1 season? Lets see how they do before anointing them better than top 4 dmen on stanley cup contenders.

That's great news about Vey. Didn't like him at all. Guess it might open the door for Gaunce this year. Or Dubois...

He had 11 points in 72 games. He is a offensive defenseman isn't he? That's atrocious for his contract. He brought nothing to the table other than injuring teammates with his beer league slap shot. His groin is the reason he can't skate. You can still suit of for a hockey game with an injured groin
- CanuckDon

I want to complain about the Lack trade I mean the Clendenning trade yeah that one.

Yeah replacing Garrison with Sbisa & Bieksa with Bartkowski has worked wonders for the Canucks ability to win games. Now we add a Dman that isn't as good as either in Gubranson who was moved by Florida as they refused to meet his 5+ mil long term contract demands & will be a UFA in 2 years. The only thing Gubranson brings to the table is hits. He's essentially a Sbisa clone. This D as constructed will be brutal. Buckle up.

Vancouver will be 1 of the worst teams in the NHL again next season even if they bring in numerous UFA's; Eriksson, Luci what have you, buy out Higgins & Burrows. Why are we moving McCann & picks to acquire assets to try & win today? This team can't win as constructed & unless they start a proper rebuild in earnest won't for a very long time. It should have started 2 years ago properly. Not this dog's breakfast.

All these picks Benning has expended is ridiculous. SJ got more for Douglas Murray; 2 2nds in 2013 at the deadline trading him to Pittsburgh, than Vancouver got for Garrison or Bieksa. Toronto got more for Winnik for christ sakes. It's a joke.

Now they are going to lose Hamhuis another solid top 4 Dman for nothing as Aquailini had Benning delay & make unrealistic demands of Dallas. Desjardins sent Vrbata to purgatory just before the playoffs 2 years ago, never to return to the Sedins line, eliminating any value so we couldn't move that asset either.

I did what any fan should do when enough is enough. Put your money where you mouth is. The Canucks have offered me my tickets at almost a 30% discount, drink, parking & food vouchers. I declined as have most of the people I know. Of the 16 season ticket holders I speak to regularly, 3 have renewed, 2 took the sweeteners, 1 has a private box & his enticement was shocking not just in cost but services, the other 13 have walked just like me.

I'll still go to 12 to 15 games next season the vast majority for free as tickets are readily available & the building virtually empty many nights. Supply & demand. I couldn't give 9 of my games away last year both dates against SJ went unused in March not a single person I offered them to wanted them! 2nd year in a row that I actually lost money on my season tickets in a very long time.

Yeah replacing Garrison with Sbisa & Bieksa with Bartkowski has worked wonders for the Canucks ability to win games. Now we add a Dman that isn't as good as either in Gubranson who was moved by Florida as they refused to meet his 5+ mil long term contract demands & will be a UFA in 2 years. The only thing Gubranson brings to the table is hits. He's essentially a Sbisa clone. This D as constructed will be brutal. Buckle up.

Vancouver will be 1 of the worst teams in the NHL again next season even if they bring in numerous UFA's; Eriksson, Luci what have you, buy out Higgins & Burrows. Why are we moving McCann & picks to acquire assets to try & win today? This team can't win as constructed & unless they start a proper rebuild in earnest won't for a very long time. It should have started 2 years ago properly. Not this dog's breakfast.

All these picks Benning has expended is ridiculous. SJ got more for Douglas Murray; 2 2nds in 2013 at the deadline trading him to Pittsburgh, than Vancouver got for Garrison or Bieksa. Toronto got more for Winnik for christ sakes. It's a joke.

Now they are going to lose Hamhuis another solid top 4 Dman for nothing as Aquailini had Benning delay & make unrealistic demands of Dallas. Desjardins sent Vrbata to purgatory just before the playoffs 2 years ago, never to return to the Sedins line, eliminating any value so we couldn't move that asset either.

I did what any fan should do when enough is enough. Put your money where you mouth is. The Canucks have offered me my tickets at almost a 30% discount, drink, parking & food vouchers. I declined as have most of the people I know. Of the 16 season ticket holders I speak to regularly, 3 have renewed, 2 took the sweeteners, 1 has a private box & his enticement was shocking not just in cost but services, the other 13 have walked just like me.

I'll still go to 12 to 15 games next season the vast majority for free as tickets are readily available & the building virtually empty many nights. Supply & demand. I couldn't give 9 of my games away last year both dates against SJ went unused in March not a single person I offered them to wanted them! 2nd year in a row that I actually lost money on my season tickets in a very long time.
- striker777

The RogerRoepers are gonna jump all over this.

Yeah replacing Garrison with Sbisa & Bieksa with Bartkowski has worked wonders for the Canucks ability to win games. Now we add a Dman that isn't as good as either in Gubranson who was moved by Florida as they refused to meet his 5+ mil long term contract demands & will be a UFA in 2 years. The only thing Gubranson brings to the table is hits. He's essentially a Sbisa clone. This D as constructed will be brutal. Buckle up.

Vancouver will be 1 of the worst teams in the NHL again next season even if they bring in numerous UFA's; Eriksson, Luci what have you, buy out Higgins & Burrows. Why are we moving McCann & picks to acquire assets to try & win today? This team can't win as constructed & unless they start a proper rebuild in earnest won't for a very long time. It should have started 2 years ago properly. Not this dog's breakfast.

All these picks Benning has expended is ridiculous. SJ got more for Douglas Murray; 2 2nds in 2013 at the deadline trading him to Pittsburgh, than Vancouver got for Garrison or Bieksa. Toronto got more for Winnik for christ sakes. It's a joke.

Now they are going to lose Hamhuis another solid top 4 Dman for nothing as Aquailini had Benning delay & make unrealistic demands of Dallas. Desjardins sent Vrbata to purgatory just before the playoffs 2 years ago, never to return to the Sedins line, eliminating any value so we couldn't move that asset either.

I did what any fan should do when enough is enough. Put your money where you mouth is. The Canucks have offered me my tickets at almost a 30% discount, drink, parking & food vouchers. I declined as have most of the people I know. Of the 16 season ticket holders I speak to regularly, 3 have renewed, 2 took the sweeteners, 1 has a private box & his enticement was shocking not just in cost but services, the other 13 have walked just like me.

I'll still go to 12 to 15 games next season the vast majority for free as tickets are readily available & the building virtually empty many nights. Supply & demand. I couldn't give 9 of my games away last year both dates against SJ went unused in March not a single person I offered them to wanted them! 2nd year in a row that I actually lost money on my season tickets in a very long time.
- striker777

you have now out done yourself .... didn't think possible .... could you do it in about 500 words less next time ...

I'm sure glad Benning moved Garrison to get the 2nd round pick used to acquire Vey. What great asset management. Garrison played as TB's #3 this season & #4 last & when with the Canucks. Whoever thought a top 4 NHL Dman could be had so cheap on a decent contract.

Put me & the Canucks out of my misery & fire Benning now. Take Desjardins & Linden with him. Include Acquilini with all of them well at it. Can we fire an owner?

Thankfully I'm keeping my 10K spent on seasons tickets for essentially the last 25 years. Why pay 10K for 2 seats annually when I can get them for free or 12.50 on the street & only go to games I wish to. Which moving forward is ZERO. Or at least until they clean house in management.

I can't think of a single GM that has mismanaged assets so poorly as Benning, Ever! Give me Mike Milbury he makes Benning look dumb no easy feat as Milbury is my #2 worst all time GM.
- striker777

Post of the year candidate!!!!

You really want to base your opinion of him off of one season? How about the playoffs when he put up closer to his career numbers?

I don't think many consider him an offensive Dman, he just happened to score 16 goals one season. He has always been an all round Dman with a big shot.

I think your argument is pretty weak as far as his injuries, he must be a pretty good player if he can still be a top 4 D playing injured all the time. He isn't that fast and did get walked around at times but from what I recall he was smart enough to be in the right position more often than not.

Ice time, fancy stats, +/-, deployment all support him being a decent D and not the anchor that you are suggesting. Not to mention that Yzerman has done a pretty good job building that team and I have a hard time doubting his opinion.
- belcherbd

Comes down to a diference of opinion between Don and Steve Yzerman. I'm thinking about putting my money on Steve.

Comes down to a diference of opinion between Don and Steve Yzerman. I'm thinking about putting my money on Steve.
- bloatedmosquito

Thx for contributing

Yeah replacing Garrison with Sbisa & Bieksa with Bartkowski has worked wonders for the Canucks ability to win games. Now we add a Dman that isn't as good as either in Gubranson who was moved by Florida as they refused to meet his 5+ mil long term contract demands & will be a UFA in 2 years. The only thing Gubranson brings to the table is hits. He's essentially a Sbisa clone. This D as constructed will be brutal. Buckle up.

Vancouver will be 1 of the worst teams in the NHL again next season even if they bring in numerous UFA's; Eriksson, Luci what have you, buy out Higgins & Burrows. Why are we moving McCann & picks to acquire assets to try & win today? This team can't win as constructed & unless they start a proper rebuild in earnest won't for a very long time. It should have started 2 years ago properly. Not this dog's breakfast.

All these picks Benning has expended is ridiculous. SJ got more for Douglas Murray; 2 2nds in 2013 at the deadline trading him to Pittsburgh, than Vancouver got for Garrison or Bieksa. Toronto got more for Winnik for christ sakes. It's a joke.

Now they are going to lose Hamhuis another solid top 4 Dman for nothing as Aquailini had Benning delay & make unrealistic demands of Dallas. Desjardins sent Vrbata to purgatory just before the playoffs 2 years ago, never to return to the Sedins line, eliminating any value so we couldn't move that asset either.

I did what any fan should do when enough is enough. Put your money where you mouth is. The Canucks have offered me my tickets at almost a 30% discount, drink, parking & food vouchers. I declined as have most of the people I know. Of the 16 season ticket holders I speak to regularly, 3 have renewed, 2 took the sweeteners, 1 has a private box & his enticement was shocking not just in cost but services, the other 13 have walked just like me.

I'll still go to 12 to 15 games next season the vast majority for free as tickets are readily available & the building virtually empty many nights. Supply & demand. I couldn't give 9 of my games away last year both dates against SJ went unused in March not a single person I offered them to wanted them! 2nd year in a row that I actually lost money on my season tickets in a very long time.
- striker777

Yeah...watching Garrison miss the net all night at 5mil per was much better...watching Bieksa slide around the front of the net and get scored on at 5mil per was even better...now watching Hamhuis wade through the mud at 5 mil per will be just so great. There comes a time dude and their time is up. Like it or lump it. I'm sure the Nucks will survive without your $10,000.

Sure JB has made some misatkes as every GM does. But if you can't see what he is trying to build heremaybe you shouldn't BE a season ticket holder...just show up when you feel like, like most of the others that have no clue what is going on.

Nice rant by the way

Thx for contributing
- CanuckDon

We were cap strapped at the time, so someone had to be moved. THAT's when Garrison was a buyout candidate. We got a 2nd for him.

Benning took a flyer on Vey, and it didn't work out.

It seems people are so defensive about Benning they won't admit he's made a mistake......ever.

Comes down to a diference of opinion between Don and Steve Yzerman. I'm thinking about putting my money on Steve.
- bloatedmosquito

Isn't Stevie Y the GM who is going to lose Stamkos for nothing?
Didn't he also piss off StLouis who demanded a trade, and also pissed off Drouin?

If Garrison was such a stud how come all we were offered back is a second. Maybe the old DCore of Canucks was not as hot as some think they were.

Yeah...watching Garrison miss the net all night at 5mil per was much better...watching Bieksa slide around the front of the net and get scored on at 5mil per was even better...now watching Hamhuis wade through the mud at 5 mil per will be just so great. There comes a time dude and their time is up. Like it or lump it. I'm sure the Nucks will survive without your $10,000.

Sure JB has made some misatkes as every GM does. But if you can't see what he is trying to build heremaybe you shouldn't BE a season ticket holder...just show up when you feel like, like most of the others that have no clue what is going on.

Nice rant by the way
- LordHumungous

Collectively though, it means millions. It's that kind of cash crunch that perpetuates the playoffs at all costs mantra.

We were cap strapped at the time, so someone had to be moved. THAT's when Garrison was a buyout candidate. We got a 2nd for him.

Benning took a flyer on Vey, and it didn't work out.

It seems people are so defensive about Benning they won't admit he's made a mistake......ever.
- golfingsince

Nobody is defending the Vey trade. Every GM makes mistakes for (frank)sakes. Some don't hold Garrison in as high regard as you and Belcher. Agree to disagree

Nobody is defending the Vey trade. Every GM makes mistakes for (frank)sakes. Some don't hold Garrison in as high regard as you and Belcher. Agree to disagree
- CanuckDon

It really is amazing. Every time someone is traded from Vancouver they automatically suck. It gets more and more like Leaf land in here all the time.

Leafs acquire Frederick Anderson for a 2016 1st and a 2017 2nd...steep price for an unproven goalie

It really is amazing. Every time someone is traded from Vancouver they automatically suck. It gets more and more like Leaf land in here all the time.
- golfingsince

Yes, it truly is fascinating. I used to love Garrison when he was a Canuck. I even bought his jersey as well as numerous hockey cards

Yes, it truly is fascinating. I used to love Garrison when he was a Canuck. I even bought his jersey as well as numerous hockey cards
- CanuckDon

I thought back then the team will be better when they move Garrison Bieksa Edler and Hamhuis. I still feel that way.

Leafs acquire Frederick Anderson for a 2016 1st and a 2017 2nd...steep price for an unproven goalie
- CanuckDon

Please let this open the door of Miller to the Ducks