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Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:44 PM ET
Sabres Insider ‏@InsideSabres · 1m1 minute ago

Just spoke to my cousin who is close friends with Jimmy Vesey at Harvard, and he told me Vesey will not sign in Buffalo. He will be a Bruin


He's BAAAAAAAACK

- Stripes77


Where is the shotgun to take this thing out back...
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:45 PM ET
Pretty sure this past season's woes with Chicago were bad too - losing Saad, Sharp, Oduya and 1 or 2 young guys plus picks and they fizzled out and are losing most of the assets they got.

(may be wrong on Saad, don't remember if he was last offseason or not)

- stashu

Saad, Broadhurst, Paliotta, 1st (16), Sharp, Johns, $1,125,000 of Scuderi's contract for Panik, Anisimov, 7th, 4th.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:46 PM ET
Vesey> LeBron
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 20 @ 6:47 PM ET
8 mil over the next 3 season.

His contract was front loaded

- dadeadhead

I thought it's 13 million over the next 3 years

Edit: just looked it up, it's definitely 13 million over the final 3 years.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:47 PM ET
A little different when you're trading for a player that refused to sign with one team.
- Stripes77


No, it really isn't. And even if it is how do you know Andersen wasn't refusing to sign in Anaheim given they clearly favored Gibson?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:48 PM ET


Matt Larkin
‏@THNMattLarkin
History says Ducks scouting staff can do damage with 30th overall pick. Got Perry 28th, Rakell 30th, Gibson 39th, Theodore 26th. Watch out.


Another example of why late 1st's don't always have to be considered lottery tickets, if you have a good organization
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 20 @ 6:48 PM ET
His history with concussions might be an issue.
- SABRES 89



Ennis is definitely tradable
It's just that we prob won't get much back for him right now bc on injury/poor stats last year

I'd rather just keep him
At least for this year

I think he'll bounce back nicely
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:49 PM ET
Saad, Broadhurst, Paliotta, 1st (16), Sharp, Johns, $1,125,000 of Scuderi's contract for Panik, Anisimov, 7th, 4th.
- chilliard77

And that's not counting last trade deadline giving up a 1st and two 2nds for Vermette and Timmonen. They haven't made great moves, but when you win cups it doesn't matter.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:50 PM ET
No, it really isn't. And even if it is how do you know Andersen wasn't refusing to sign in Anaheim given they clearly favored Gibson?
- Wetbandit1



Sure it is.

Do you know if the Ducks gave them permission to talk to his agent before hand?
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:50 PM ET
Expiring contract was 637,500, can't imagine it'll be much if anything more than that - but no, nothing official
- stashu


Delorian needs to say "thank you Mr. Murray" and spend the summer doing nothing but learning the PK from Legwand and/or O'Reilly
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 20 @ 6:51 PM ET
Matt Larkin
‏@THNMattLarkin
History says Ducks scouting staff can do damage with 30th overall pick. Got Perry 28th, Rakell 30th, Gibson 39th, Theodore 26th. Watch out.


Another example of why late 1st's don't always have to be considered lottery tickets, if you have a good organization

- sbroads24



True
Not just drafting, but how u actually develop the guys as well

I heard we got Vesey's rights!
I guess Jack talked him into signing here?
Great news, IMO

Saw the leafs traded for & signed Andersen...

I miss anything else?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:51 PM ET
I have 0 interest in Delauriers being back. He did nothing
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:52 PM ET
Also, doesn't Vesey only have the option of an entry level deal? Or is that null and void if he becomes a free agent - if that's the case then I'd be concerned.

If it's not, then I'd say there is no reason we shouldn't know very soon whether or not he's signed, because he can't get more anywhere else...

- Cup Crazy '07


Yeah, ELC for Vesey.

Justin Schultz's first contract was 2 years at, you guessed it, $925K with a $2.85M performance bonus and a $92,500 signing bonus. Another high profile college UFA Dekeyser 2 years $925K, signing bonus $92,500. His performance bonus was less. $850K for the 2nd year.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:52 PM ET
True
Not just drafting, but how u actually develop the guys as well

I heard we got Vesey's rights!
I guess Jack talked him into signing here?
Great news, IMO

Saw the leafs traded for & signed Andersen...

I miss anything else?

- jdfitz77

Lebron isn't that good.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:53 PM ET
Lebron isn't that good.
- sbroads24



Nope according to Skip Bayles he's awful and he is sticking to it
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 20 @ 6:53 PM ET
Sure it is.

Do you know if the Ducks gave them permission to talk to his agent before hand?

- Stripes77


Do you know if Nashville didn't? We can go back and forth on this all night long. One guy signed immediately. The other didn't. Big deal. We gave up one of our 47 3rd round picks this year. Big deal.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 20 @ 6:55 PM ET
Do you know if Nashville didn't? We can go back and forth on this all night long. One guy signed immediately. The other didn't. Big deal. We gave up one of our 47 3rd round picks this year. Big deal.
- Wetbandit1

To me it's less about what we lost if he doesn't sign and more about where he is likely to sign instead of here.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:57 PM ET
To me it's less about what we lost if he doesn't sign and more about where he is likely to sign instead of here.
- Pierceme69

And the fact that it would look kinda embarrassing if he chose not to sign here after they trade for his rights and make a pitch
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 20 @ 7:00 PM ET
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=16372529
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
A wrecking ball defender with a cannon of shot? Hopefully just 1 mill or less.
- CaptainRivet

Nic DLo is not a Dman (presently).

But I like this post.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Jun 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
True
Not just drafting, but how u actually develop the guys as well

I heard we got Vesey's rights!
I guess Jack talked him into signing here?
Great news, IMO

Saw the leafs traded for & signed Andersen...

I miss anything else?

- jdfitz77



Florida traded for Yandle's rights.

A 6th round pick and conditional 4th if he signs.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
This has prob been talked about already....


4h4 hours ago
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
CBJ continues to listen to interest in #3 pick, however, sources say CBJ would like to attach a contract, (Hartnell) for cap space...


I didn't look at his contract,
But if it's just a year or 2 I'd be interested depending on what else they'd want
Esp if we could keep #8



Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
Yeah, ELC for Vesey.

Justin Schultz's first contract was 2 years at, you guessed it, $925K with a $2.85M performance bonus and a $92,500 signing bonus. Another high profile college UFA Dekeyser 2 years $925K, signing bonus $92,500. His performance bonus was less. $850K for the 2nd year.

- Wetbandit1


If he waits until 8/15, is he still stuck the ELC, or can he sign for whatever?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
Florida traded for Yandle's rights.

A 6th round pick and conditional 4th if he signs.

- rmiethaner



Replace Soupy?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 20 @ 7:02 PM ET
Vesey just played with Eichel, they have been friends for years per reports. For all you skeptics...

Call it tampering, call it whatever you like. Jack and Jimmy just played together. If it is tampering or not I can't imagine the subject of "where are you looking to sign" didn't come up. Of course Jack probably wants his friend to play with him and being that this will be one of the biggest decisions of the kid's life, Jimmy probably wants to talk about it with a friend. If it was a friend you trust you can talk about that knowing he's not going to "turn you in".

If that is logical, then GMTM knows whats going on. If Jimmy would have told Jack, you know Chicago really wants me I hear and I want to win a cup next year...this trade wouldn't have taken place. I'm not saying this is a done deal, but this idea that it's a complete shot in the dark is unreal. I could care less what agents say.

It may not be "Welcome Jimmy" time, but we're close methinks.
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