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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
Odds Laine falls to 18?
- Giroux_Is_God

over
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:59 PM ET
He could...and that still might not be a bad trade for Chicago. The salary cap doesnt allow for a perfect world and perfect roster moves. Whatever he becomes in Carolina is no guarantee he wouldve done so in Chicago, so I think the point is moo
- YuenglingJagr



You also have to wonder a little how he does with less depth and talent around him. He could flourish but he also could struggle if other teams are matching against him.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
How about this

To CAR, WPG, ANA or FLA : 2016 2nd, 2016 3rd

To PHI: 21st overall, 22nd overall, 23rd overall OR 24th overall

Draft Kunin, McCovy, or Fabbro at 18

Draft Asplund, Gauthier, Debrindecat, etc at 21, 22, 23,or 24
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
Provorov
save
us
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
4th overall
Taylor Hall
for
Travis Sanhiem
Wayne Simmonds
18th
Gudas

- Winning


Take Gudas out. You would have to add one of Morin/Provorov IMHO to get that deal done.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
You also have to wonder a little how he does with less depth and talent around him. He could flourish but he also could struggle if other teams are matching against him.
- J35Bacher


From what I saw (which could be observation bias) but he was in fact over matched by the bigger teams in the west...maybe he works out better in the east. I think it really doesnt matter.

You have a core that has proven they can win multiple championships, and you have players that have proven to compliment them well. I dont really think it makes any sense to trade a guy that has proven chemistry and fit on the roster over a guy that doesnt given their timeline. Who really cares how good Teravainen is when the chicago core well past their prime
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
Odds Laine falls to 18?
- Giroux_Is_God


Same odds Umburger and Vinny play for Flyers next year.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
Same odds Umburger and Vinny play for Flyers next year.
- Glak18


And Hextall
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
FWIW: From Garths blog. Take with a grain of salt.


**

I'm nearing a ton of chatter involving the Edmonton Oilers trading their fourth overall pick. The #4 and Jordan Eberle have been linked to Buffalo who want to jump up from #8.

Philly selects 18th and they have been linked to the 4th pick and Eberle.

What would that costs? Have to be defensive prospect going to EDM.

- J35Bacher


It would cost sanheim, schenn, #18, 2017 1st


Funny thing is they already had sanheim in jultz
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 1:09 PM ET
4th overall
Taylor Hall
for
Travis Sanhiem
Wayne Simmonds
18th
Gudas

- Winning


Yeah, I probably do that
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 1:10 PM ET
Odds Laine falls to 18?
- Giroux_Is_God

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
Yeah, I probably do that
- Jsaquella


Try 3 firsts
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
4th overall
Taylor Hall
for
Travis Sanhiem
Wayne Simmonds
18th
plus

- Winning
o
I'm not sure why I even bothered scrolling left to see who posted this.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:16 PM ET
From what I saw (which could be observation bias) but he was in fact over matched by the bigger teams in the west...maybe he works out better in the east. I think it really doesnt matter.

You have a core that has proven they can win multiple championships, and you have players that have proven to compliment them well. I dont really think it makes any sense to trade a guy that has proven chemistry and fit on the roster over a guy that doesnt given their timeline. Who really cares how good Teravainen is when the chicago core well past their prime

- YuenglingJagr


I mean Chicago didn't do bad in getting back 2nd and 3rd round picks and didn't keep any money. It's not like they are 4th and 5th rounders.

Also the success Parnarin showed seemed to make TT expendable. They also now can try to resign Shaw who they seem to value more than TT. They also signed Schmaltz and have Hartman coming. I didn't think it was as terrible as people made it.

I thought both teams got things they wanted.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 1:16 PM ET
Try 3 firsts
- YuenglingJagr


Probably more. Oilers aren't trading Hall or 4th overall unless they get a huge haul
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 20 @ 1:20 PM ET
I reheated my coffee in a styrofoam cup am I going to die?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:21 PM ET
I reheated my coffee in a styrofoam cup am I going to die?
- Streit2ThePoint

Only if you've ever considered trading Morin.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 20 @ 1:22 PM ET
Only if you've ever considered trading Morin.
- hereticpride


I just googled it and it looks like I am.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
Probably more. Oilers aren't trading Hall or 4th overall unless they get a huge haul
- Jsaquella



I don't know if I want to go to 4. I either want to get to 2 or 3. If not them then I am not sure I see a huge difference between 4-20. All those players have warts and all have strengths depending on what the drafting team sees.

I would rather try to give up less and take yakupov with the 4th instead of Hall.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:23 PM ET
It would cost sanheim, schenn, #18, 2017 1st


Funny thing is they already had sanheim in jultz

- Just5


yeah jultz. boost that value
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
He could...and that still might not be a bad trade for Chicago. The salary cap doesnt allow for a perfect world and perfect roster moves. Whatever he becomes in Carolina is no guarantee he wouldve done so in Chicago, so I think the point is moo
- YuenglingJagr


Like a cow's opinion. It just doesn't matter.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 20 @ 1:24 PM ET
I just googled it and it looks like I am.
- Streit2ThePoint

R.I.P.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
Odds Laine falls to 18?
- Giroux_Is_God


They're saying 50/50
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 20 @ 1:25 PM ET
I reheated my coffee in a styrofoam cup am I going to die?
- Streit2ThePoint

I think so
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 1:30 PM ET
I don't know if I want to go to 4. I either want to get to 2 or 3. If not them then I am not sure I see a huge difference between 4-20. All those players have warts and all have strengths depending on what the drafting team sees.

I would rather try to give up less and take yakupov with the 4th instead of Hall.

- J35Bacher


I knew it was you all along
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