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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:31 PM ET
I keep reading and hearing that Columbus wants to move back from 3. What would you offer to get there? I would assume 18 and a defensive prospect. Would you include Schenn or Simmonds? Laughton? Would you add a 2nd rounder instead of a plyer?


Just curious. The comparisons I hear to Jesse Puljujärvi's game is a Selanne type.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 12:32 PM ET
Would literally have to be Sanheim, 18th, Hagg and one or both of our 2nd rounders... intriguing, but if it costs that, which is probably what EDM would be smart to request, its most likely too much.

But, Oh my God if we could get Tkachuk

- PVL29


For Eberle and the 4th? Gonna be more than Sanheim, Hagg and the 3 picks. The problem with an Edmonton trade, the Flyers and Oilers have the same biggest need-a NHL level, number one defenseman.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
I keep reading and hearing that Columbus wants to move back from 3. What would you offer to get there? I would assume 18 and a defensive prospect. Would you include Schenn or Simmonds? Laughton? Would you add a 2nd rounder instead of a plyer?


Just curious. The comparisons I hear to Jesse Puljujärvi's game is a Selanne type.

- J35Bacher


Laine is more Selanne than Puljujarvi. Some feel that ultimately he will end up a center. I have to say he reminds me a bit of Marian Hossa when his game is really on. Forechecks hard, can be an absolute bastard on the puck.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 20 @ 12:37 PM ET
Laine is more Selanne than Puljujarvi. Some feel that ultimately he will end up a center. I have to say he reminds me a bit of Marian Hossa when his game is really on. Forechecks hard, can be an absolute bastard on the puck.
- Jsaquella


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:38 PM ET
Laine is more Selanne than Puljujarvi. Some feel that ultimately he will end up a center. I have to say he reminds me a bit of Marian Hossa when his game is really on. Forechecks hard, can be an absolute bastard on the puck.
- Jsaquella



I saw others say the other way.

But both guys I would love. I think both make the team right away and both add size and skill.



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 12:42 PM ET
I saw others say the other way.

But both guys I would love. I think both make the team right away and both add size and skill.

- J35Bacher


True, Laine is more physical than Selanne. But he finds spots and shoots like Selanne. Puljujarvi is a smooth player. Laine has been more consistent the past 12 months.

I'd happily take either and have an all star or elite level forward for the next decade
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:44 PM ET
True, Laine is more physical than Selanne. But he finds spots and shoots like Selanne. Puljujarvi is a smooth player. Laine has been more consistent the past 12 months.

I'd happily take either and have an all star or elite level forward for the next decade

- Jsaquella



And both guys bring everything the Flyers want. Size and Skill.

I could be wrong but I would offer Simmonds in a deal to get to 2 or 3.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 20 @ 12:45 PM ET
And both guys bring everything the Flyers want. Size and Skill.

I could be wrong but I would offer Simmonds in a deal to get to 2 or 3.

- J35Bacher


In a heartbeat. That's not a knock on Simmonds, either. \

Oh, I'd also throw in Morin, since that's a pre-requisite of any trade idea
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:46 PM ET
4th overall
Taylor Hall
for
Travis Sanhiem
Wayne Simmonds
18th
plus
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:47 PM ET
I agree with Marc. I think there is a good chance they regret trading Teravainen. He could very well blossom in Carolina with more ice time.
- MJL


They have Schmaltz on the way though. Extremely skilled, willing to take and make body contact, top 6 potential. He may need some time in the AHL but don't sleep on this kid. CHI fans believe he could develop into their 2nd line center down the road. Reminds me of a smaller Jason Spezza
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
4th overall
Taylor Hall
for
Travis Sanhiem
Wayne Simmonds
18th
plus

- Winning


Not enough on our end.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 12:48 PM ET
I think everyone was pretty excited at the time. No one knew in June of 92 how good Forsberg was going to turn out to be.
- BiggE


Well other than Flyer scouts and the country of Sweden.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:49 PM ET
I keep reading and hearing that Columbus wants to move back from 3. What would you offer to get there? I would assume 18 and a defensive prospect. Would you include Schenn or Simmonds? Laughton? Would you add a 2nd rounder instead of a plyer?


Just curious. The comparisons I hear to Jesse Puljujärvi's game is a Selanne type.

- J35Bacher


Laughton, yes

Schenn, maybe

Simmonds, no
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:50 PM ET
Not enough on our end.
- Mordecai

4th overall
Taylor Hall
for
Travis Sanhiem
Wayne Simmonds
18th
Gudas

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 20 @ 12:50 PM ET
In a heartbeat. That's not a knock on Simmonds, either. \

Oh, I'd also throw in Morin, since that's a pre-requisite of any trade idea

- Jsaquella



Would you have to give up less if you were to get to 3 and took back a deal like Fedor Tyutin?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:52 PM ET
Hextall did say he wanted a top six
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
4th overall
Taylor Hall
for
Travis Sanhiem
Wayne Simmonds
18th
Gudas

- Winning


Meh. Still don't think EDM does this. They should either stand pat and draft Tkachuk/Puljujarvi or try to get Shattenkirk/Petriangelo out of STL. Sanheim doesn't help them right now, Gudas is not a top defenseman, Simmonds would be a nice piece for them but he's such an integral part of our leadership group at the moment.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
I saw others say the other way.

But both guys I would love. I think both make the team right away and both add size and skill.

- J35Bacher


Yeah a lot of scouts say Puljujarvi is more comparable to Selanne with skating and shooting, where as Laine is a bit more bull and has been more consistency so far (which is why Laine is being ranked higher). It really is a toss up between the two, very tough who will be better IMO.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
Not enough on our end.
- Mordecai


Agreed, plus hasn't produced much the past few years.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
Hextall did say he wanted a top six
- Winning


So we trade Simmonds???
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 20 @ 12:54 PM ET
4th overall
Taylor Hall
for
Travis Sanhiem
Wayne Simmonds
18th
Gudas

- Winning


Swap Schenn for Simmer and I am game
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
yes
- Streit2ThePoint


just as I suspected
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
Swap Schenn for Simmer and I am game
- arichardson22

ill call the oilers gm
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
Odds Laine falls to 18?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
I agree with Marc. I think there is a good chance they regret trading Teravainen. He could very well blossom in Carolina with more ice time.
- MJL


He could...and that still might not be a bad trade for Chicago. The salary cap doesnt allow for a perfect world and perfect roster moves. Whatever he becomes in Carolina is no guarantee he wouldve done so in Chicago, so I think the point is moo
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