I said it before with the Blackhawks paying Kane and Toews what they are is insane in the cap era, and they have three Cups

Paying Stamkos $10-12 million...well. Good luck with that
- AllInForFlyers

Blackhawks won their 3 cups before those contracts took into effect

would like to keep, flyers need a righty D and he is a good physical presence they can use

my guess is 3 years, between 8-9M is the deal they will settle on
- Marc D

I wonder where Hexy and Flyers stand. It was reported other day negotiations were not going well, but with the rumored report of us turning down 2 2nds for him at TDL, all signs pointed we wanted to bring him back. If we are hesitating with an offer for him for cap purposes, I wonder what else Hexy has planned with our cap

Blackhawks won their 3 cups before those contracts took into effect
- PhillySportsGuy

Right. Even though you could justify doing it because of what they did for you, it's still crazy to do it

Would you match an offer sheet giving him 3.5 for 3 years?
- MaximumBone

what is the return for that offer, and 2nd round pick?

I guess they would match but not sure

Right. Even though you could justify doing it because of what they did for you, it's still crazy to do it
- AllInForFlyers

I think too with the cap staying stagnate these past years it has hurt everyone. Teams expected the cap to rise but with it not moving it hurts that like to spend.

Would you match an offer sheet giving him 3.5 for 3 years?
- MaximumBone

We'd get a 2nd back if we didn't match. Depending on the team that offersheets, id match. But say if it was EDM, Calgary, WPG, or ARZ I may take the early 2nd instead. But Gudas would be missed, by me at least.

If the reports are accurate that Yzerman didn't want to go above $8.5, while I don't always agree with what he does, I can't argue that isn't the right call

Is Stamkos worth more? Sure. In a free market, absolutely. But in a cap world, the difference between 8.5 and 10-plus is at least another player, maybe even two on ELCs, and that absolutely matters

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- PhillySportsGuy

previous management would have traded for Ladd's rights at this point

tjfh (thank jeebus for hexy)

We'd get a 2nd back if we didn't match. Depending on the team that offersheets, id match. But say if it was EDM, Calgary, WPG, or ARZ I may take the early 2nd instead. But Gudas would be missed, by me at least.
- arichardson22

It would be from Edmonton in this case Thanks, appreciate the insight!

what is the return for that offer, and 2nd round pick?

I guess they would match but not sure
- Marc D

Yes, from Edmonton in this case. Thanks for the insight

Right. Even though you could justify doing it because of what they did for you, it's still crazy to do it
- AllInForFlyers

Agreed. We'll see how it turns out for them.

If the reports are accurate that Yzerman didn't want to go above $8.5, while I don't always agree with what he does, I can't argue that isn't the right call

Is Stamkos worth more? Sure. In a free market, absolutely. But in a cap world, the difference between 8.5 and 10-plus is at least another player, maybe even two on ELCs, and that absolutely matters
- AllInForFlyers

The Lightening also have plenty of RFA and UFA to re-up this year and next.

Kucherov
Nesterov
Hedman
Drouin
Killorn
Johnson
Namestinkov


If they didn't have so many core guys all up at the same time I think he would be ok paying up to 10. But they have to spread money out. Also with Hedman being a monster he is going to command top dollar.

If the reports are accurate that Yzerman didn't want to go above $8.5, while I don't always agree with what he does, I can't argue that isn't the right call

Is Stamkos worth more? Sure. In a free market, absolutely. But in a cap world, the difference between 8.5 and 10-plus is at least another player, maybe even two on ELCs, and that absolutely matters
- AllInForFlyers

more important to get Hedman signed and to keep Kucherov

Yzerman is doing the right thing

wonder what he will do with Matt Carle

I think too with the cap staying stagnate these past years it has hurt everyone. Teams expected the cap to rise but with it not moving it hurts that like to spend.
- J35Bacher

Any idiot who thought the cap would continue rising in a gate-driven league with the TV contracts already in place deserves to be fired

This number where they are is pretty much in line with projections I read a decade ago, coming out of the 05 lockout. 6-8 teams able to go 70-plus, 4-6 always close to the floor, everybody else operating with internal budgets

what is the return for that offer, and 2nd round pick?

I guess they would match but not sure
- Marc D

They would match

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new blog fellas
- YuenglingJagr

I was getting worried bout Bill

They would match
- PhillySportsGuy

He's worth more then a 2nd to them, for sure

I was getting worried bout Bill
- Marc D

He was tweeting that he had some internet/uploading issues

He's worth more then a 2nd to them, for sure
- Marc D

They'd match then trade him to Vancouver for a 2nd just out of spite for Edmonton

Any idiot who thought the cap would continue rising in a gate-driven league with the TV contracts already in place deserves to be fired
- AllInForFlyers

Probably, although the CND exchange rate drop didn't help.

Right. Even though you could justify doing it because of what they did for you, it's still crazy to do it
- AllInForFlyers

What are the alternatives? Trade Toews and Kane?

Any idiot who thought the cap would continue rising in a gate-driven league with the TV contracts already in place deserves to be fired


- AllInForFlyers

The league has always been gate driven, and yet the cap has consistently risen. If the rumors are true that the NHLPA voted to use the escalator, then it will rise again for next season.


http://www.secondcityhock...cy-escalator-clause-nhlpa

http://www.thehockeynews....e-to-increase-salary-cap/