Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I thought MAF only had a modified NTC, not a full NMC. If he does have a NMC, my bad. - jmatchett383
According to capfriendly, he does.
Apparently the Pens wanted CGY's 1st rounder for MAF. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I've said before, I think the standard for size has changed. I think in today's NHL, 6' 195 is good size. Especially if the player skates well. - MJL
Size is still important, and any GM will prefer a skilled, speedy player with size over a small guy with equivalent speed and skill, but it is not as important as it was in the clutch and grab era.
To me, as long as you have some size in your 3rd and 4th lines, at least one good power forward who can work the front on the pp, and at least 2 Dmen with good size who can kill penalties, you will be ok.
In regards to the Flyers, they could certainly use more size up front in their bottom 6 and one more big physical dman, but when it comes to their top six forwards, size, IMO, is not an issue.
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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You're not rinaldo, because you use correct capitalization, punctuation, and haven't referenced anyone's mom.
You're not OrangeKrush, because you make sense.
But I still don't know who you are. - jmatchett383
I guess your no one then. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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According to capfriendly, he does.
Apparently the Pens wanted CGY's 1st rounder for MAF. - Jsaquella
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I guess your no one then. - roenick97
Sure. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Size is still important, and any GM will prefer a skilled, speedy player with size over a small guy with equivalent speed and skill, but it is not as important as it was in the clutch and grab era.
To me, as long as you have some size in your 3rd and 4th lines, at least one good power forward who can work the front on the pp, and at least 2 Dmen with good size who can kill penalties, you will be ok.
In regards to the Flyers, they could certainly use more size up front in their bottom 6 and one more big physical dman, but when it comes to their top six forwards, size, IMO, is not an issue. - BiggE
Size is great, if it can play. Hugh Jessiman is a big mother(frank)er, but he can't (frank)ing play.
The Flyers and Penguins, in terms of average size are almost even. The "lack" of size didn't hurt the Pens at all. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Size is still important, and any GM will prefer a skilled, speedy player with size over a small guy with equivalent speed and skill, but it is not as important as it was in the clutch and grab era.
To me, as long as you have some size in your 3rd and 4th lines, at least one good power forward who can work the front on the pp, and at least 2 Dmen with good size who can kill penalties, you will be ok.
In regards to the Flyers, they could certainly use more size up front in their bottom 6 and one more big physical dman, but when it comes to their top six forwards, size, IMO, is not an issue. - BiggE
Mike Rathje is probably available. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Size is still important, and any GM will prefer a skilled, speedy player with size over a small guy with equivalent speed and skill, but it is not as important as it was in the clutch and grab era.
To me, as long as you have some size in your 3rd and 4th lines, at least one good power forward who can work the front on the pp, and at least 2 Dmen with good size who can kill penalties, you will be ok.
In regards to the Flyers, they could certainly use more size up front in their bottom 6 and one more big physical dman, but when it comes to their top six forwards, size, IMO, is not an issue. - BiggE
I agree with all of that. Sometimes there's a player who is 20 lbs lighter than another player, but he competes harder, and is tougher to play against than the bigger player. There's simply too many really good smaller players in the league, to be scared off by size. Of course, you want balance in the lineup, and I do think the Flyers could use some more size, especially at center for the 3rd and 4th lines. Not that I don't like Bellemare, but I see a player who can take some of the load off of Giroux and Couturier as a need. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Mike Rathje is probably available. - jmatchett383
Ok, let me be more specific. You do need some size on your D when it comes to the PK, it's nice to have guys that can win battles in front and along the wall. However, the big guys must have some skill and be decent skaters. If your entire D group is smaller, high skilled guys, you most likely will have some trouble on the PK and when the opponent is able to get a cycle going in your zone.
I think there will always be a place for big Dmen in the NHL as long as they have at least some skill and average or better skating ability.
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Ok, let me be more specific. You do need some size on your D when it comes to the PK, it's nice to have guys that can win battles in front and along the wall. However, the big guys must have some skill and be decent skaters. If your entire D group is smaller, high skilled guys, you most likely will have some trouble on the PK and when the opponent is able to get a cycle going in your zone.
I think there will always be a place for big Dmen in the NHL as long as they have at least some skill and average or better skating ability. - BiggE
Niklas Grossmann? |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I agree with all of that. Sometimes there's a player who is 20 lbs lighter than another player, but he competes harder, and is tougher to play against than the bigger player. There's simply too many really good smaller players in the league, to be scared off by size. Of course, you want balance in the lineup, and I do think the Flyers could use some more size, especially at center for the 3rd and 4th lines. Not that I don't like Bellemare, but I see a player who can take some of the load off of Giroux and Couturier as a need. - MJL
Simmonds and Raffl are perfect examples of this |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Niklas Grossmann? - jmatchett383
In his prime? Sure. He was an effective role player who could help a team. The problem comes when your D consists of 3 or 4 Nik Grossmanns. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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In his prime? Sure. He was an effective role player who could help a team. The problem comes when you D consists of 3 or 4 Nik Grossmanns. - BiggE
But he's big, can lean on people, and can even move from time to time. I don't know if he knows what a hockey stick is for, but he sure can get hit by a puck.
But really, I think Luke Schenn is a good example. When you start overrelying on a guy like him (when you have 3-4 of them) is when you have issues. |
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ravishingone
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 06.30.2007
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According to capfriendly, he does.
Apparently the Pens wanted CGY's 1st rounder for MAF. - Jsaquella
Interesting trade by Calgary if true. I still wonder if Drouin is available for the Bolts. He is cheap for another season especially considering who they have to sign over the next two seasons. However, I still am skeptical all bridges have been mended from both sides. Forget about Stamkos for a second, Hedman and Kucherov are going to get paid. Hedman could become the first $10 million/yr dman in the NHL, IMO.
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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In his prime? Sure. He was an effective role player who could help a team. The problem comes when your D consists of 3 or 4 Nik Grossmanns. - BiggE
I see it the same way. A player like Grossmann or Schultz has a place in today's NHL just you can't have too many of them. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Interesting trade by Calgary if true. I still wonder if Drouin is available for the Bolts. He is cheap for another season especially considering who they have to sign over the next two seasons. However, I still am skeptical all bridges have been mended from both sides. Forget about Stamkos for a second, Hedman and Kucherov are going to get paid. Hedman could become the first $10 million/yr dman in the NHL, IMO. - ravishingone
Nope. Drouin has rescinded the trade request, says he wants to stay in Tampa |
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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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Interesting trade by Calgary if true. I still wonder if Drouin is available for the Bolts. He is cheap for another season especially considering who they have to sign over the next two seasons. However, I still am skeptical all bridges have been mended from both sides. Forget about Stamkos for a second, Hedman and Kucherov are going to get paid. Hedman could become the first $10 million/yr dman in the NHL, IMO. - ravishingone
Not sure if it was an insider tweet or ESPN article , but I saw/read that Drouin withdrew his request for a trade. But that doesn't necessarily mean management doesn't trade him. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Ren Lavoie says Lecavalier will retire today. If he does, the Flyers and Kings will incur no cap penalty for him in the future. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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General Fanager
@generalfanager
With Lecavalier off books, #LAKings move up to $5.55M in estimated cap space (11F/7D/1G). #Flyers up to $12.75M (9F/5D/3G).
Schenn $1.5M
Gudas $1.25M
Stamkos $10M |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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General Fanager
@generalfanager
With Lecavalier off books, #LAKings move up to $5.55M in estimated cap space (11F/7D/1G). #Flyers up to $12.75M (9F/5D/3G).
Schenn $1.5M
Gudas $1.25M
Stamkos $10M - PhillySportsGuy
Those numbers are inaccurate. We can trade Brandon Manning for a top-10 pick and use the savings to up the Stamkos offer. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Simmonds and Raffl are perfect examples of this - BiggE
so is Datsyuk #RIP |
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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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General Fanager
@generalfanager
With Lecavalier off books, #LAKings move up to $5.55M in estimated cap space (11F/7D/1G). #Flyers up to $12.75M (9F/5D/3G).
Schenn $1.5M
Gudas $1.25M
Stamkos $10M - PhillySportsGuy
Really would be somethin if we can get Read and/or Streit off the books too. First time Hexy has had actual spending money. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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General Fanager
@generalfanager
With Lecavalier off books, #LAKings move up to $5.55M in estimated cap space (11F/7D/1G). #Flyers up to $12.75M (9F/5D/3G).
Schenn $1.5M
Gudas $1.25M
Stamkos $10M - PhillySportsGuy
Luke Schenn? |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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General Fanager
@generalfanager
With Lecavalier off books, #LAKings move up to $5.55M in estimated cap space (11F/7D/1G). #Flyers up to $12.75M (9F/5D/3G).
Schenn $1.5M
Gudas $1.25M
Stamkos $10M - PhillySportsGuy
/plans Broad Street parade |
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