jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Im not a passive aggressive person. If I wanted to single you out I would have... however, there are a handful, and I didnt think I needed to research all who have touched on it.
Even if you were to trade to the 3rd, the 18th plus a top prospect and Schenn is an ENORMOUS overpayment. - jak521
But Hartnell was a first round pick. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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But Hartnell was a first round pick. - jmatchett383
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arichardson22
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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Im not a passive aggressive person. If I wanted to single you out I would have... however, there are a handful, and I didnt think I needed to research all who have touched on it.
Even if you were to trade to the 3rd, the 18th plus a top prospect and Schenn is an ENORMOUS overpayment. - jak521
You'd have to overpay to get a top 3 pick in almost any draft. Otherwise CBJ hangs up. Didn't say I'd make the deal, was just a deal that I thought CBJ would realistically accept as its been reported they haven't been impressed with the "couple" offers they have received. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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You'd have to overpay to get a top 3 pick in almost any draft. Otherwise CBJ hangs up. Didn't say I'd make the deal, was just a deal that I thought CBJ would realistically accept as its been reported they haven't been impressed with the "couple" offers they have received. - arichardson22
What if we include this sniper:
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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Well it's simple then, GM's should just simply use the analytics that fans have access to, and nothing else, since analytics, have never, ever, ever, been wrong. 600+ players in the NHL, analytics gets them all right! Any fan with access to analytics can run an NHL team.
- MJL
One day someone will sit down and explain probabilities to you |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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You'd have to overpay to get a top 3 pick in almost any draft. Otherwise CBJ hangs up. Didn't say I'd make the deal, was just a deal that I thought CBJ would realistically accept as its been reported they haven't been impressed with the "couple" offers they have received. - arichardson22
I just dont see the 3rd overall pick commanding two first round picks, a top prospect, and a 50 point under 25 top 6 forward.
IF that was what they requested, I think that 29 teams will have them picking 3rd. |
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YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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What if we include this sniper:
- jmatchett383
meh...goalie was late |
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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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I just dont see the 3rd overall pick commanding two first round picks, a top prospect, and a 50 point under 25 top 6 forward.
IF that was what they requested, I think that 29 teams will have them picking 3rd. - jak521
The main/initial offer I had was 2 first, Laughton, Sanhiem. I only threw Schenn's name in if it was needed in a scenario where CBJ said up the offer. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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One day someone will sit down and explain probabilities to you - PhillySportsGuy
WE DON'T GOT TIME FOR THIS COVER-UP BULLpoop! IN CASE YOU FORGOT, THERE'S AN ARKILLIAN BATTLE CRUISER ABOUT TO WIPE OUT ALL LIFE ON THIS MISERABLE PLANET. |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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The main/initial offer I had was 2 first, Laughton, Sanhiem. I only threw Schenn's name in if it was needed in a scenario where CBJ said up the offer. - arichardson22
I get it.
2 firsts for 1 first is palatable. Two firsts plus two top prospect is not smart. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I get it.
2 firsts for 1 first is palatable. Two firsts plus two top prospect is not smart. - jak521
Is it S-Mart? |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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One day someone will sit down and explain probabilities to you - PhillySportsGuy
Shut up nerd. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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Shut up nerd. - Tomahawk
*crunches numbers*
I am a nerd! |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Are they more often right, or wrong? - MikesPillBottle
You tell me! |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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One day someone will sit down and explain probabilities to you - PhillySportsGuy
One day, someone will sit down and explain to you that running an NHL team, and player development, is about more than statistical probabilities. |
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YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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One day, someone will sit down and explain to you that running an NHL team, and player development, is about more than statistical probabilities. - MJL
Youre reaching a bit far |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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One day, someone will sit down and explain to you that running an NHL team, and player development, is about more than statistical probabilities. - MJL
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Youre reaching a bit far - YuenglingJagr
I know, maybe I should dummy it down some? |
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arichardson22
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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I get it.
2 firsts for 1 first is palatable. Two firsts plus two top prospect is not smart. - jak521
My logic is, wth Harsty coming back in the deal, a current roster player in the top 9 loses spot (Laughton) , and despite his contract, Hartsy is still a contributing top 6 winger and has value in a trade.
Obviously we do not know who we get at #18 , nor the pick for following year's 1st, but I'm sure it could be argued those 2 picks will not have a ceiling or potential equivalent to Puljujarvl. And he fits an immediate need. A big skilled skating winger. And I don't see the team taking a step back so our next year 1st would be similar spot range. Obviously the asset that hurts the most to lose in this trade is Sanheim |
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YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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I know, maybe I should dummy it down some? - MJL
Maybe you should just stick to whats relevant considering you took a comment about average goalies getting overpaid and made it about building an NHL team on probablility |
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YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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My logic is, wth Harsty coming back in the deal, a current roster player in the top 9 loses spot (Laughton) , and despite his contract, Hartsy is still a contributing top 6 winger and has value in a trade.
Obviously we do not know who we get at #18 , nor the pick for following year's 1st, but I'm sure it could be argued those 2 picks will not have a ceiling or potential equivalent to Puljujarvl. And he fits an immediate need. A big skilled skating winger. And I don't see the team taking a step back so our next year 1st would be similar spot range. Obviously the asset that hurts the most to lose in this trade is Sanheim - arichardson22
There is more to Hartnell than points and he as a player probably doesnt help the team much in the future. I am assuming that the NMC is wiped out...otherwise its obvious...but his value to the Flyers should be lower than some other teams |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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My logic is, wth Harsty coming back in the deal, a current roster player in the top 9 loses spot (Laughton) , and despite his contract, Hartsy is still a contributing top 6 winger and has value in a trade.
Obviously we do not know who we get at #18 , nor the pick for following year's 1st, but I'm sure it could be argued those 2 picks will not have a ceiling or potential equivalent to Puljujarvl. And he fits an immediate need. A big skilled skating winger. And I don't see the team taking a step back so our next year 1st would be similar spot range. Obviously the asset that hurts the most to lose in this trade is Sanheim - arichardson22
This is how I look at it.
Would you trade Laughton for Hartnell right now today? I wouldnt.
Would you trade this years 1st, next years 1st and Sanhiem for the 3rd? I wouldnt. |
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roenick97
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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My logic is, wth Harsty coming back in the deal, a current roster player in the top 9 loses spot (Laughton) , and despite his contract, Hartsy is still a contributing top 6 winger and has value in a trade.
Obviously we do not know who we get at #18 , nor the pick for following year's 1st, but I'm sure it could be argued those 2 picks will not have a ceiling or potential equivalent to Puljujarvl. And he fits an immediate need. A big skilled skating winger. And I don't see the team taking a step back so our next year 1st would be similar spot range. Obviously the asset that hurts the most to lose in this trade is Sanheim - arichardson22
The UFA market is the best most of us has seen since before the cap was installed. I'm not a big Lucic fan but he's younger then Hartnell and could be had without trading anything. Not that we should but with all the names about to hit the market, a team could build a contender through this season's free agency market alone. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Maybe you should just stick to whats relevant considering you took a comment about average goalies getting overpaid and made it about building an NHL team on probablility - YuenglingJagr
Thats incorrect. My comments were in rebuttal to your comments about not getting NHL GMs. I wasn't the one who brought up probabilies. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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*crunches numbers*
I am a nerd! - PhillySportsGuy
You most certainly are. |
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