Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Despite that comment. What picks in your opinion has he made that show that trend?
Are you worried he thinks there is skill so he can focus on size? I dunno man I just see 2 years worth of valuing skill so I'm not too worried about what he might say in an interview - YuenglingJagr
None frankly. He's gone BPA. Every pick has been good with ceiling and based not on position or size but...best hockey player available. Maybe Dove McFalls (remember he exists haha?) was a bit of a defense/size/low ceiling reach, but he was the lone one. And he was surrounded by more of the former types.
I understand the drafts have been a bit smaller on the forward front, but our top 6 is loaded with size right now. We need skill to get to that next level. Hextall has been quite vocal this offseason about addressing "size." I hope it's lip service and he isn't passing on potential stars for it. Hexy is still surrounded by a lot of the old boys. |
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TheGhost_isBare
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bridgeport, CT Joined: 03.24.2015
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Matthews goes wire to wire as TSN's top prospect
http://www.tsn.ca/matthew...n-s-top-prospect-1.511597 - ob18
I didn't see Dmitri Sokolov on the list, and I'm wondering what the feeling is on him. He seems like a good goal scorer who can get his shots off. He played on a pretty bad team, and I wonder if his numbers would improve if he was on a better roster. His all around game doesn't seem that bad. He's no two-way masterpiece but he didn't exactly float around on defense. I'd probably have him around 60 on my list, and wouldn't be mad if the flyers drafted him at 52. Big goal scorers are hard to come by. |
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TheGhost_isBare
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bridgeport, CT Joined: 03.24.2015
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Wow what a strange list. Abramov at 51 screams this year's Kucherov. Dahlen not even in 2nd. Logan Stanley above Rubtsov.
I am completely ok with the draft going the way of this ranking. Just some really surprising things. I was big on Borgstrom and they have him as almost a 1st. Other stuff too. Kunin, Abramov, AND Dahlen sounds like a fine draft to me personally. - Mononoke
I feel like there is some industry sand bagging going on with Dahlen, the kid is just so skilled. I doubt he even falls into the 40s much less the 60s. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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I feel like there is some industry sand bagging going on with Dahlen, the kid is just so skilled. I doubt he even falls into the 40s much less the 60s. - TheGhost_isBare
In this case, I hope there isn't industry sand bagging and we snatch him haha. But how anyone could rank Joey freakin' Anderson above him is beyond me....talk about a coat-tail rider. All he does is sit in front of the net or clean up some loose pucks from Keller and Bellows. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Luke Kunin'as pro comparison per HockeysFuture: Joe Pavelski |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Luke Kunin'as pro comparison per HockeysFuture: Joe Pavelski - hereticpride
It actually isn't that inaccurate in play style. Lightning release, similar size, high compete level, smart defensive player, center/wing versatility, Wisconsin, both known to be massive chokers who wilt under pressure. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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None frankly. He's gone BPA. Every pick has been good with ceiling and based not on position or size but...best hockey player available. Maybe Dove McFalls (remember he exists haha?) was a bit of a defense/size/low ceiling reach, but he was the lone one. And he was surrounded by more of the former types.
I understand the drafts have been a bit smaller on the forward front, but our top 6 is loaded with size right now. We need skill to get to that next level. Hextall has been quite vocal this offseason about addressing "size." I hope it's lip service and he isn't passing on potential stars for it. Hexy is still surrounded by a lot of the old boys. - Mononoke
Yeah I understand and agree that SDMcF is the most obvious one. I do trust him though |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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It actually isn't that inaccurate in play style. Lightning release, similar size, high compete level, smart defensive player, center/wing versatility, Wisconsin, both known to be massive chokers who wilt under pressure. - Mononoke
Only laughing because 2Real.
I'd be more than happy with him at 18. Not the sexy pick, but a good value pick where we are. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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In this case, I hope there isn't industry sand bagging and we snatch him haha. But how anyone could rank Joey freakin' Anderson above him is beyond me....talk about a coat-tail rider. All he does is sit in front of the net or clean up some loose pucks from Keller and Bellows. - Mononoke
It's been like 2 weeks and still nothing about rounds 5-7. I don't even remember the names of the guys I picked out anymore |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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It actually isn't that inaccurate in play style. Lightning release, similar size, high compete level, smart defensive player, center/wing versatility, Wisconsin, both known to be massive chokers who wilt under pressure. - Mononoke
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Yeah I understand and agree that SDMcF is the most obvious one. I do trust him though - YuenglingJagr
They want to reach for one or two in rounds 4-7, be my guest, so long as they're not lugs. They want to take one early because they truly have that size/skill combo, be my guest. I just don't want them passing over dynamite players who ooze skill and smarts over conservative, low ceiling, big guys....with early picks, at the least.
I trust Hextall too. After all, what GM doesn't say they are looking to upgrade on skill and size? Deep Roy? We shall see in a handful of days, but I do hope he sticks to his guns. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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It's been like 2 weeks and still nothing about rounds 5-7. I don't even remember the names of the guys I picked out anymore - YuenglingJagr
I have a couple dozen. It really depends on how it shakes up in previous rounds or who is reached on, but I do have a bunch of names of players I would take around those rounds. |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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I have a couple dozen. It really depends on how it shakes up in previous rounds or who is reached on, but I do have a bunch of names of players I would take around those rounds. - Mononoke
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Oh - YuenglingJagr
I'd list some, but given you know none of them and they are just names, it seems rather pointless haha |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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I'd list some, but given you know none of them and they are just names, it seems rather pointless haha - Mononoke
A boy is no one |
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None frankly. He's gone BPA. Every pick has been good with ceiling and based not on position or size but...best hockey player available. Maybe Dove McFalls (remember he exists haha?) was a bit of a defense/size/low ceiling reach, but he was the lone one. And he was surrounded by more of the former types.
I understand the drafts have been a bit smaller on the forward front, but our top 6 is loaded with size right now. We need skill to get to that next level. Hextall has been quite vocal this offseason about addressing "size." I hope it's lip service and he isn't passing on potential stars for it. Hexy is still surrounded by a lot of the old boys. - Mononoke
Where is this size you speak of ? G? Nope. Jake? Nope. Schenn? Nope. Simmonds. Yes. Rafl ?!?!? No. Read? Nope. Cousins ? Nope. Laughton ? No.
We need size with skill. Around 6ft3 225. One of them. And another 6ft to 6ft 2 |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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It actually isn't that inaccurate in play style. Lightning release, similar size, high compete level, smart defensive player, center/wing versatility, Wisconsin, both known to be massive chokers who wilt under pressure. - Mononoke
GiG approved |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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GiG approved - Giroux_Is_God
I bet Pavs and Steph are getting crazy with the cheese whiz right now. |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Where is this size you speak of ? G? Nope. Jake? Nope. Schenn? Nope. Simmonds. Yes. Rafl ?!?!? No. Read? Nope. Cousins ? Nope. Laughton ? No.
We need size with skill. Around 6ft3 225. One of them. And another 6ft to 6ft 2 - jmdodgeser4
its scientifically proven you cant win without at least three guys 225lbs or over on the roster. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Where is this size you speak of ? G? Nope. Jake? Nope. Schenn? Nope. Simmonds. Yes. Rafl ?!?!? No. Read? Nope. Cousins ? Nope. Laughton ? No.
We need size with skill. Around 6ft3 225. One of them. And another 6ft to 6ft 2 - jmdodgeser4
You know whose roster averaged the same size as the Flyers?
The team that won the Stanley Cup. |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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You know whose roster averaged the same size as the Flyers?
The team that won the Stanley Cup. - Jsaquella
you're making me blush |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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You know whose roster averaged the same size as the Flyers?
The team that won the Stanley Cup. - Jsaquella
The only player in the top 6 without "size" is G. And lord knows he is one of the feistiest guys in the league. Jake is a beast. Coots is a beast. Simmer is a beast. Raffl plays a strong, physical, power forward game. So does Schenn, and he hits like a truck. I don't think you need size to win, but I just dispute the idea that the Flyers are small, or even less so that they are soft. Their averages are weighted down (and heighted down?) by the bottom 6 and a small d corps. That they mostly suck is more the paramount issue for me haha. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Compared to other clubs, I don't seen them playing tough and physical imposing hockey.
They need more skill but line 3 and 4 need more snarl. I like my teams a certain way |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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The only player in the top 6 without "size" is G. And lord knows he is one of the feistiest guys in the league. Jake is a beast. Coots is a beast. Simmer is a beast. Raffl plays a strong, physical, power forward game. So does Schenn, and he hits like a truck. I don't think you need size to win, but I just dispute the idea that the Flyers are small, or even less so that they are soft. Their averages are weighted down (and heighted down?) by the bottom 6 and a small d corps. That they mostly suck is more the paramount issue for me haha. - Mononoke
Agreed on all accounts...especially the fancy ones |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Or maybe they have access to different analytics. - MJL
Like the analytics that showed that Andrew Hammond wasnt a flash in the pan
the analytics that showed Niemi was worth the contract Dallas gave him
Or Lehtonen
Or Bobrovsky
Or Miller
Or Bernier... |
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