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MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:31 PM ET
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For those saying TOR price on Andersen was extremely high, no one would have batted an eye if Leafs used 30th pick to take 18 yr old G...
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 5:31 PM ET
Andersen is an unproven starter just like those guys. That doesn't mean he can't be really damn good it's just he's still a question mark. NJ gambled on Schneider and he's been amazing but Toronto's history with this sort of thing is not that good.
- daeth

Plus the whole Toronto's roster vs Anaheim's roster thing

But you know no biggie since Toronto is so (frank)ing good...........
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:32 PM ET
Andersen is an unproven starter just like those guys. That doesn't mean he can't be really damn good it's just he's still a question mark. NJ gambled on Schneider and he's been amazing but Toronto's history with this sort of thing is not that good.
- daeth


I get what you're saying...but Andersen has been good for 3 years.. it's like we just acquired him after a great rookie season... He's been good for 3 YEARS.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 5:32 PM ET
Serious question:

Do you think the Leafs could give Bernier away right now?

He has one year left at $4.15 million.

If you sent an email to 29 GMs saying the Leafs would trade him for a 7th round pick or less, would you get any takers?

I honestly don't think so.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 20 @ 5:33 PM ET
30th's aren't locks re(frank)inglax

We have a tendy for a crapshoot and have 229 other picks

- Bigzby


Agree about 30th picks - Look at what the Leafs have picked up from the last four picks with first rounders outside the top ten

Gauthier, Biggs, Percy, Tlusty - pure junk.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 5:33 PM ET
Andersen is an unproven starter just like those guys. That doesn't mean he can't be really damn good it's just he's still a question mark. NJ gambled on Schneider and he's been amazing but Toronto's history with this sort of thing is not that good.
- daeth


2 things.

1. We need to trust that someone on the Leafs staff know wtf they're talking about when it comes to evaluating goaltenders
2. Andersen is an unproven bonafied top 15 starter in the league but he's played over half the games the last two seasons with reasonable numbers. Still an upgrade on Mandela
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:33 PM ET
Apparently we just extended Andersen. 5yrs.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 20 @ 5:33 PM ET
Serious question:

Do you think the Leafs could give Bernier away right now?

He has one year left at $4.15 million.

If you sent an email to 29 GMs saying the Leafs would trade him for a 7th round pick or less, would you get any takers?

I honestly don't think so.

- Atomic Wedgie


Burke would take him for a 4th or 5th
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:35 PM ET
Bob McKenzieVerified account
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For those saying TOR price on Andersen was extremely high, no one would have batted an eye if Leafs used 30th pick to take 18 yr old G...

- MCharisma91


Exactly. I'd rather have Andersson than draft an 18 year old Gustavsson and an extra 2nd next year. They can still take Gustavsson (or Hart or the other guy) at 31.

Lou didn't gamble on Toskala/Raycroft/Bernier. He gambled on Schneider, and that was with a 9th overall.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 5:35 PM ET
Apparently we just extended Andersen. 5yrs.
- MCharisma91


Over Under 2,999,999 AAV

I say under
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 20 @ 5:35 PM ET
2 things.

1. We need to trust that someone on the Leafs staff know wtf they're talking about when it comes to evaluating goaltenders
2. Andersen is an unproven bonafied top 15 starter in the league but he's played over half the games the last two seasons with reasonable numbers. Still an upgrade on Mandela

- TheMussel

We don't need to trust anything lol
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:35 PM ET
Jesus (frank)ing christ..

we get a goalie and some of you (frank)ers still (frank)ing complain ..

would've you wanted MAF, or were you going to female dog about that too??

It's an improvement. The team as a whole, is still a work in progress .

FFS.

and, we didn't trade JVR..

- MCharisma91


Seriously.

Stfu people.......its like whining is second nature. We needed a goalie, we got one. The price wasn't that steep. Relax.

I don't think JVR was ever in the conversation unless there was a defenseman involved so that wasn't a worry.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:36 PM ET
Over Under 2,999,999 AAV

I say under

- TheMussel


heard he wanted 4.5 - 5.5M but not sure if the source was legit.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 5:37 PM ET
heard he wanted 4.5 - 5.5M but not sure if the source was legit.
- MCharisma91


That kind of scratch could possibly put damper on the Stamkos situation
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jun 20 @ 5:37 PM ET
Seriously.

Stfu people.......its like whining is second nature. We needed a goalie, we got one. The price wasn't that steep. Relax.

I don't think JVR was ever in the conversation unless there was a defenseman involved so that wasn't a worry.

- Phenom

pretty much saw identical posts backing up all three of the previous goalie trades toronto has made. excuse us for not being convinced lol.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 5:37 PM ET
Apparently we just extended Andersen. 5yrs.
- MCharisma91

link?
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:38 PM ET
That kind of scratch could possibly put damper on the Stamkos situation
- TheMussel


still think Bozak is gone...and i wouldn't be surprised if Gardiner & Bernier are dealt too..
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:38 PM ET
link?
- Atomic Wedgie


Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 8m8 minutes ago
Told Leafs have agreed to a five year extension with Andersen as well. He would have been RFA July 1

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 5:38 PM ET
link?
- Atomic Wedgie


https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 5:39 PM ET
That kind of scratch could possibly put damper on the Stamkos situation
- TheMussel

o dear.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:40 PM ET
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak 2m2 minutes ago
Source said Leafs have other MAJOR moves in plan. One of the most active teams right now.

(frank) it, I believe him!! lmao
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 20 @ 5:40 PM ET
pretty much saw identical posts backing up all three of the previous goalie trades toronto has made. excuse us for not being convinced lol.
- daeth


This regime is different than those of the past.....entirely different. Let's see how it plays out before we roast them. TITS.
winsix
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 20 @ 5:40 PM ET
link?
- Atomic Wedgie


Leafs twitter account
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 20 @ 5:40 PM ET
This regime is different than those of the past.....entirely different. Let's see how it plays out before we roast them. TITS.
- Phenom



Seriously we've heard this line countless times too
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 5:41 PM ET
Exactly. I'd rather have Andersson than draft an 18 year old Gustavsson and an extra 2nd next year. They can still take Gustavsson (or Hart or the other guy) at 31.

Lou didn't gamble on Toskala/Raycroft/Bernier. He gambled on Schneider, and that was with a 9th overall.

- 1979AD

The thing is, this trade has absolutely nothing to do with drafting a goalie.

They are separate issues.

If we grab a goalie at the draft, he won't be in the league for another 4-5 years, and then take another 2 years to be a starter.
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