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the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 20 @ 2:46 PM ET
First time reader, long time poster..

Did we manage to get Spatso banned?
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jun 20 @ 2:46 PM ET
if Stamkos signs in DET, you all may as well call me Kinggilmour
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:47 PM ET


what's funny is they used Hedman instead of Stamkos.. which imo is odd. You'd think if they thought Stamkos would be back, they'd use him...just my opinion.

- MCharisma91

Hedman is the keymaster. Stamkos is the gatekeeper.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jun 20 @ 2:48 PM ET
Hedman is the keymaster. Stamkos is the gatekeeper.
- AdamFrench



When one lock can be opened by many keys, it is a poopty lock.

When one key can open many locks, it is a master key.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
Stamkos will be a Sabre on July 1st.
- TheMussel


Only if he dresses up as a sword while signing an MLSE stamped contract.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
When one lock can be opened by many keys, it is a poopty lock.

When one key can open many locks, it is a master key.

- WingmanWillie

We're going deep here bro.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
Only if he dresses up as a sword while signing an MLSE stamped contract.
- Phenom


I'll save you the embarrassment of having to admit that you don't read Garth's blogs, and just refer you there.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 20 @ 2:51 PM ET
if Stamkos signs in DET, you all may as well call me Kinggilmour
- WingmanWillie

leafs endorsement deals - rogers (+2 mil) bell (+2mil)

wings endorsement deal - free crazy bread for life (+25 pounds)
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
leafs endorsement deals - rogers (+2 mil) bell (+2mil)

wings endorsement deal - free crazy bread for life (+25 pounds)

- Lucas.Neilson


You're making me hungry.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 20 @ 2:52 PM ET
It just worries me...especially if they move Datsyuk's contract. They may have the space.. but idk, let's hope someone reminds Stamkos that Babcock isn't there anymore, and he's on the Leafs lol
- MCharisma91


I agree. Everybody is going to make a pitch. It's all about what S.S. wants. All the Leafs can do is put a competitive offer on the table and make the pitch.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
leafs endorsement deals - rogers (+2 mil) bell (+2mil)

wings endorsement deal - free crazy bread for life (+25 pounds)

- Lucas.Neilson

On the one hand, this is almost certainly not allowed under the current CBA (see section on cap circumvention).

On the other hand, why shouldn't the Leafs push the envelope on this?

What the hell, why wouldn't Stamkos be eligible to sign an endorsement deal for Bell phone? Surely we can find a few examples of North American athletes who have endorsed a particular cellphone company.

Let's make it uncomfortable for Bettman.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
I agree. Everybody is going to make a pitch. It's all about what S.S. wants. All the Leafs can do is put a competitive offer on the table and make the pitch.
- The Law


The actual contract amount will be secondary to endorsements.

Stamkos can probably make the highest net salary in Toronto, all sources taken into consideration.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jun 20 @ 2:57 PM ET
On the one hand, this is almost certainly not allowed under the current CBA (see section on cap circumvention).

On the other hand, why shouldn't the Leafs push the envelope on this?

What the hell, why wouldn't Stamkos be eligible to sign an endorsement deal for Bell phone? Surely we can find a few examples of North American athletes who have endorsed a particular cellphone company.

Let's make it uncomfortable for Bettman.

- Atomic Wedgie

who says anything needs to be signed.

when you sign a 9mil x 7year deal - the 63 million is the handshake for the x4 per year
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
The actual contract amount will be secondary to endorsements.

Stamkos can probably make the highest net salary in Toronto, all sources taken into consideration.

- TheMussel

According to some source on the interdweebs, Crosby is currently the highest paid NHL player - $6 million from endorsements.

Call me crazy, but I think Stamkos could match that.

Crosby > Stamkos, but Toronto's love of hockey > Pittsburgh's love of hockey.
MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.10.2010

Jun 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
I agree. Everybody is going to make a pitch. It's all about what S.S. wants. All the Leafs can do is put a competitive offer on the table and make the pitch.
- The Law


you think he comes home? In your opinion.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
According to some source on the interdweebs, Crosby is currently the highest paid NHL player - $6 million from endorsements.

Call me crazy, but I think Stamkos could match that.

Crosby > Stamkos, but Toronto's love of hockey > Pittsburgh's love of hockey.

- Atomic Wedgie


100%
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
On the one hand, this is almost certainly not allowed under the current CBA (see section on cap circumvention).

On the other hand, why shouldn't the Leafs push the envelope on this?

What the hell, why wouldn't Stamkos be eligible to sign an endorsement deal for Bell phone? Surely we can find a few examples of North American athletes who have endorsed a particular cellphone company.

Let's make it uncomfortable for Bettman.

- Atomic Wedgie


It would not surprise me if endorsement deals for any company that is affiliated with or part of ownership are not allowed, for exactly this reason. If language to that effect does not exist in the CBA, then it is a pretty bad oversight. On the other hand, I would not want to push the envelope on the the CBA if there is any general language against *anything* that might be cap circumvention. It could be a penalty we really don't want to pay.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
I'm still giddy about trading Clarkson and Phaneuf and not retaining salary.

TITS

- Aetherial


amen
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jun 20 @ 3:01 PM ET
I'll save you the embarrassment of having to admit that you don't read Garth's blogs, and just refer you there.
- TheMussel


Everything I need to know about Garf's 'blogs' I get here.....no need to waste brain cells going there.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 3:03 PM ET
This franking day just gets franking worse.

I only get TSN4 on my tv at work - it has the franking Wales-Russia game.

Can't stream the England game.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:03 PM ET
According to some source on the interdweebs, Crosby is currently the highest paid NHL player - $6 million from endorsements.

Call me crazy, but I think Stamkos could match that.

Crosby > Stamkos, but Toronto's love of hockey > Pittsburgh's love of hockey.

- Atomic Wedgie



Forbes has it at 6.5M for the 2015-2016 season



They have Pat Kane at only 900k, thats seems (frank)ed up
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jun 20 @ 3:05 PM ET
Forbes has it at 6.5M for the 2015-2016 season



They have Pat Kane at only 900k, thats seems (frank)ed up

- poohcrumbs



Yellow Cab, Co-op, etc all prob left him
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
Yellow Cab, Co-op, etc all prob left him
- DeflatedPucks


good point
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 20 @ 3:09 PM ET
It would not surprise me if endorsement deals for any company that is affiliated with or part of ownership are not allowed, for exactly this reason. If language to that effect does not exist in the CBA, then it is a pretty bad oversight. On the other hand, I would not want to push the envelope on the the CBA if there is any general language against *anything* that might be cap circumvention. It could be a penalty we really don't want to pay.
- Aetherial

it does. But here's what gives me hope:

However, nothing in this Section 26.3(e) is intended to prohibit a Player
from entering into a sponsorship, endorsement or other commercial
arrangement with a local sponsor or entity with which his Club does
business but which is not a Club Affiliated Entity, in which the Player
receives something of value, provided the thing of value received is
commensurate with (i.e., not clearly in excess of) the fair market value of
the services rendered by the Player on behalf of the sponsor or entity.
With respect to any sponsorship or endorsement arrangement between a
Player and a national sponsor, any thing of value provided to a Player
under such arrangement shall be presumptively acceptable (i.e., such thing
of value need not meet the "fair market value" test set forth in the
preceding sentence), provided that such arrangement was not made at the
behest of the Player's Club or any other Club Actor. However, the NHL
shall have the right to challenge before the System Arbitrator, through an
expedited arbitration proceeding pursuant to the third sentence of Section
26.13(a) below, the bona fides of any such national sponsorship or
endorsement arrangement on the grounds that it was actually provided for
the benefit of a particular Club.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
On the one hand, this is almost certainly not allowed under the current CBA (see section on cap circumvention).

On the other hand, why shouldn't the Leafs push the envelope on this?

What the hell, why wouldn't Stamkos be eligible to sign an endorsement deal for Bell phone? Surely we can find a few examples of North American athletes who have endorsed a particular cellphone company.

Let's make it uncomfortable for Bettman.

- Atomic Wedgie



(as of 2015) Crosby was endorsed by Bell Canada, so your saying he could never play for the Leafs?
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