Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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3rd round - ob18
I will vomit if they select Sean Day. They won't though I'm sure. He's big, amazing skater, and maybe the dumbest player everytime he hits the ice. Maybe the laziest one off it. I'd rather take a chance on someone who can be an NHL player. 3rd rounders aren't candy. With names like Henrik Borgstrom, Luke Green, Lucas Carlsson, Josh Mahura, Filip Hronek, Artur Kayumov floating around...absolutely not in my book. |
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Bust or bust is more like it - Mononoke
If you said it, it must be true |
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I will vomit if they select Sean Day. They won't though I'm sure. He's big, amazing skater, and maybe the dumbest player everytime he hits the ice. Maybe the laziest one off it. I'd rather take a chance on someone who can be an NHL player. 3rd rounders aren't candy. - Mononoke
Why are you sure ? Enlighten us all |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Why are you sure ? Enlighten us all - rinaldo
There's no real consensus on Day. Scouts rave about the physical tools-great skater, good size, good shot-but terrible decision making and is often a passive player. He often uses the physical tools to get himself into a good spot, then fails to create anything out of the chance because of the low hockey IQ.
From the scouts quotes section of the Prospect Black Book:
Where do you think he'll get drafted, because I have no idea
I told myself I'd go into this season with a clean slate for him. It didn't take long before he frustrated me...too many red flags in his game to consider him in early rounds
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Why are you sure ? Enlighten us all - rinaldo
Sure of what? That they won't select him? Of course I'm more hoping than sure, but it's the antithesis of a Hextall selection. Day has a penchant for laziness and disinterest, and in general, he's simply not a good hockey player. Whatever tools he has mean nothing given that. Some GM will fall into the trap of seeing a big kid, previously anointed with exceptional status, with jaw dropping skating and disregard that he isn't good at hockey, nor seems overly concerned that he isn't.
I'm all for boom and bust types, but there are better players that fit the bill to me. I don't see the boom. |
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There's no real consensus on Day. Scouts rave about the physical tools-great skater, good size, good shot-but terrible decision making and is often a passive player. He often uses the physical tools to get himself into a good spot, then fails to create anything out of the chance because of the low hockey IQ.
From the scouts quotes section of the Prospect Black Book:
Where do you think he'll get drafted, because I have no idea
I told myself I'd go into this season with a clean slate for him. It didn't take long before he frustrated me...too many red flags in his game to consider him in early rounds - Jsaquella
Possible late 1st to 3rd is what I have read
Me myself hve no clue. I woudnt go 1st. Multiple picks in 2 and 3r maybe I take a shot in 3rd depending what's left
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Possible late 1st to 3rd is what I have read
Me myself hve no clue. I woudnt go 1st. Multiple picks in 2 and 3r maybe I take a shot in 3rd depending what's left - rinaldo
I don't have much interest, maybe with one of the 4th rounders.
I worry about the hockey sense, because it leads to a lot of really bad decisions. In some of the video I have seen, he's a terrible NZ guy, allows easy carry ins by the barrel full.
It's a shame, because he does have top end physical skills. 6'2" 230. Great skater. Should be a top 20 pick, but seems to be lost too often.
I tend to value hockey sense pretty highly. One of the reasons I have guys like Kunin, Bellows & Rubtsov over guys like Jones and Gauthier. |
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Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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It's a shame, because he does have top end physical skills. 6'2" 230. Great skater. Should be a top 20 pick, but seems to be lost too often. - Jsaquella
They said the same thing about Lennie Small.....
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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They said the same thing about Lennie Small..... - Mononoke
Maybe they should get him some rabbits. |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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I don't have much interest, maybe with one of the 4th rounders.
I worry about the hockey sense, because it leads to a lot of really bad decisions. In some of the video I have seen, he's a terrible NZ guy, allows easy carry ins by the barrel full.
It's a shame, because he does have top end physical skills. 6'2" 230. Great skater. Should be a top 20 pick, but seems to be lost too often.
I tend to value hockey sense pretty highly. One of the reasons I have guys like Kunin, Bellows & Rubtsov over guys like Jones and Gauthier. - Jsaquella
Wow I remember people talking about that Day kid last year around this time like he was going to be a top 10 pick |
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I don't have much interest, maybe with one of the 4th rounders.
I worry about the hockey sense, because it leads to a lot of really bad decisions. In some of the video I have seen, he's a terrible NZ guy, allows easy carry ins by the barrel full.
It's a shame, because he does have top end physical skills. 6'2" 230. Great skater. Should be a top 20 pick, but seems to be lost too often.
I tend to value hockey sense pretty highly. One of the reasons I have guys like Kunin, Bellows & Rubtsov over guys like Jones and Gauthier. - Jsaquella
With the amount of picks the flyers have I take a shot. That's just me. |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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I don't have much interest, maybe with one of the 4th rounders.
I worry about the hockey sense, because it leads to a lot of really bad decisions. In some of the video I have seen, he's a terrible NZ guy, allows easy carry ins by the barrel full.
It's a shame, because he does have top end physical skills. 6'2" 230. Great skater. Should be a top 20 pick, but seems to be lost too often.
I tend to value hockey sense pretty highly. One of the reasons I have guys like Kunin, Bellows & Rubtsov over guys like Jones and Gauthier. - Jsaquella
If he fell to the 4th or 5th, I'd have mild interest. |
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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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I don't have much interest, maybe with one of the 4th rounders. - Jsaquella
He might be close to no draft for me. I'm sure a team will bite 3/4 so it's not a concern, but looking at all these prospect names on my list, even in rounds beyond that, I can't imagine taking Day over much of any of them. He's just a player I'd take my chances with elsewhere and not think twice. |
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Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Maybe they should get him some rabbits. - Jsaquella
If he's selected, he can't be allowed within 100 feet of Konecny or Ghost. He can tend to 1 David Kase and that's IT! |
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Mononoke
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Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest! Joined: 07.19.2015
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Wow I remember people talking about that Day kid last year around this time like he was going to be a top 10 pick - Just5
Nick Ebert says hi |
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wolfhounds
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Location: PA Joined: 06.02.2009
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I covet our own picks once they're made but I don't mind flipping picks around if you have 3 xtra - mayorofangrytown
Absolutely. Picks are currency. Use them to move up in the draft, or in a package to convince a team to take AMac, I'm all for it. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Wow I remember people talking about that Day kid last year around this time like he was going to be a top 10 pick - Just5
He was an exceptional status kid, drafted into the OHL a year early. Only a handful of guys got that and Day was seen as a Doughty like prospect at the time. The trouble is, the physical gifts have far out gained the ability to think the game, and it invades all aspects of his game. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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With the amount of picks the flyers have I take a shot. That's just me. - rinaldo
I'm not 100% against it, but I don't take him earlier than 4th round. There will be guys who have similar or better upside and a better chance of reaching it, to boot |
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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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He was an exceptional status kid, drafted into the OHL a year early. Only a handful of guys got that and Day was seen as a Doughty like prospect at the time. The trouble is, the physical gifts have far out gained the ability to think the game, and it invades all aspects of his game. - Jsaquella
It didn't hurt how his team used him starting from day 1, it really to this point in my opinion ruined him. |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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It didn't hurt how his team used him starting from day 1, it really to this point in my opinion ruined him. - ob18
Yeah, he's a classic case of a young guy who needed to mature and be developed and he got tossed to the wolves in a sense.
Imagine if he went to London to play for the Knights. Hunter might have done wonders with him |
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I'm not 100% against it, but I don't take him earlier than 4th round. There will be guys who have similar or better upside and a better chance of reaching it, to boot - Jsaquella
Could be. 3 rd is fine by me. We shall see in a week. |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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Yeah, he's a classic case of a young guy who needed to mature and be developed and he got tossed to the wolves in a sense.
Imagine if he went to London to play for the Knights. Hunter might have done wonders with him - Jsaquella
He'd have been 3rd pair to a healthy scratch probably much of his rookie year. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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He'd have been 3rd pair to a healthy scratch probably much of his rookie year. - ob18
Yep. They wouldn't have had him playing a huge role so young and he wouldn't have gotten so many bad habits. I think the poor hockey sense leads to the passivity he shows |
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ob18
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Location: That matters less than you hope it does Joined: 07.20.2007
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Yep. They wouldn't have had him playing a huge role so young and he wouldn't have gotten so many bad habits. I think the poor hockey sense leads to the passivity he shows - Jsaquella
He may have had some hockey sense but again how he was used kill it..........have to see whoever takes him & how they bring him along and make something out of him. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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He may have had some hockey sense but again how he was used kill it..........have to see whoever takes him & how they bring him along and make something out of him. - ob18
Like I said, if he's there for the 4th rounder, I might be willing to take a chance. |
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