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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:21 PM ET
There's a chance Julien leaves Boston, I know a lot of folks probably don't want to see the guy who beat us but it would be a good fit. He knows how to coach the type of team JB is building.
- neem55

I knew you were Dave Pratt.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:23 PM ET
So would I, in a heartbeat.
- neem55

CBJ would have a #1C and a #1D if they trade the 3oa, we have one of those and he 35 (frank)ing years old.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:24 PM ET
I knew you were Dave Pratt.
- Marwood

I should probably be insulted cause he's such a puts, but that was a good one.
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jun 17 @ 5:25 PM ET
You havent been here long enough. I was being sarcastic. If this was mid-season you most definitely would have heard about it. You should have seen the uproar when Aaron Volpatti was lost on waivers....
- chompsey[/
quote]
Dale Wiese much?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:26 PM ET
CBJ would have a #1C and a #1D, we have one of those and he 35 (frank)ing years old.
- A_SteamingLombardi

We've realistically got three d-men with #2 potential (or declining from #2 in Edler's case maybe) but no number 1 and Hank(35 and not getting better). Columbus would have duchene and Seth Jones. Kikolinen would be fired if he didn't take that deal.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:28 PM ET
[quote=chompsey]You havent been here long enough. I was being sarcastic. If this was mid-season you most definitely would have heard about it. You should have seen the uproar when Aaron Volpatti was lost on waivers....
- Linden_4_Capt[/
quote]
Dale Wiese much?

...Shinkurak, Jensen, Lack, Kassian, any draft pick that is thrown away etc.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:31 PM ET
well i just watched a rigged fight.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:34 PM ET
Again, it's just a difference of opinion. I really don't think that's true at all and you've done nothing to substantiate your opinion. A proven player is worth more than a prospect. If you were saying "toronto would not trade Matthews for Duchene straightup" I think that's actually debatable. But Duchene for Puuljarvi is a no-brainer for columbus. 1C is the hardest position other than 1D to fill in the NHL and he has the talent to do it. That and he's coming off of season's where continues to increase his point total and has a fairly reasonable contract at 6 mil for another three seasons.
- neem55

You are wrong here. 71 GP and 70 pts in 2013-2014 and then next season he hits 55pts in 82 games. last season was 59 pts in 76 games. Either way it is a drop in production from 2013-2014. tanev is a #2 d and a RHD at that. This is coveted right nw. EDM has been trying to buy one for a long time now and has failed. Current rumor is an overpayment for Bogosian. Defense have more value than forwards right now. The gudbranson trade proved that. Also players not needing protection are at a premium right now. Dubois ceiling is higher than Duchene's, but we need Duchene more than Dubois right now. Colorado is in a bad position right now. They have 4 defenseman that need to be protected, Francois Beauchemin/Erik Johnson have NMC for the 2017-2018 seasons, Barrie and Zadorov as well. If they don't keep Zadorov then they literally got nothing for O'Reilly and Grigorenko is proving to be a 3c at best.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:37 PM ET
Do you all feel GG is a good hire, and that he is much better prepared to lead after his AC stint? I don't know a lot about him, seemed like an off the board hire though.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:40 PM ET
Do you all feel GG is a good hire, and that he is much better prepared to lead after his AC stint? I don't know a lot about him, seemed like an off the board hire though.
- FLflames34

We wish we still had him and lost Lidster if that tells you anything.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:40 PM ET
You are wrong here. 71 GP and 70 pts in 2013-2014 and then next season he hits 55pts in 82 games. last season was 59 pts in 76 games. Either way it is a drop in production from 2013-2014. tanev is a #2 d and a RHD at that. This is coveted right nw. EDM has been trying to buy one for a long time now and has failed. Current rumor is an overpayment for Bogosian. Defense have more value than forwards right now. The gudbranson trade proved that. Also players not needing protection are at a premium right now. Dubois ceiling is higher than Duchene's, but we need Duchene more than Dubois right now. Colorado is in a bad position right now. They have 4 defenseman that need to be protected, Francois Beauchemin/Erik Johnson have NMC for the 2017-2018 seasons, Barrie and Zadorov as well. If they don't keep Zadorov then they literally got nothing for O'Reilly and Grigorenko is proving to be a 3c at best.
- Retinalz


I'm worng and you're talking about a guy who scored 70 points in 70 games being traded for a prospect!?

How did the Gudbranson trade prove anything? We didn't give up anything like a duchene. Except, oh wait, it does show that a prospect (McCann) is not enough it itslef to land a descent PROVEN player, so a very high pick was added (#33).

On top of this, Duchene is better than Gudbranson (and I really like and value defensive d-men, but still). I'm done with this conversation, as you can't seem to wrap your head around DUchene being a 1C and the value of that. I agree with the expansion coming teams will be more willing to trade, but they are not going to trade proven assets for a single prospect, that's madness.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:42 PM ET
Do you all feel GG is a good hire, and that he is much better prepared to lead after his AC stint? I don't know a lot about him, seemed like an off the board hire though.
- FLflames34


We are just glad you got rid of that douchebag Hartley.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 5:42 PM ET
I wish you guys would quit trading Tanev....jesus...
- chompsey

Why? Cap space > Tanev
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:43 PM ET
We are just glad you got rid of that douchebag Hartley.
- Scooby_Doo

Me too, I honestly never liked Hartley and his 7 game segment garbage.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:45 PM ET
Do you all feel GG is a good hire, and that he is much better prepared to lead after his AC stint? I don't know a lot about him, seemed like an off the board hire though.
- FLflames34


I haven't heard anything negative mentioned about him from the pundits and commentators. only positive stuff.

Having endured Torts and WD must give him an interesting perspective.

On another site, I saw some negative comments regarding his special teams work with the Canucks, but I blame the personnel as much as the coaching.

He should do fine. Not sure how long coaches are expected to be around with rebuilding teams anyway. (not meant as a jab just the nature of teams that are young and wanting to make the playoffs)
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:46 PM ET
Do you all feel GG is a good hire, and that he is much better prepared to lead after his AC stint? I don't know a lot about him, seemed like an off the board hire though.
- FLflames34

He led before, in Dallas. Google, give it a shot.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:47 PM ET
One more year of WD and we get a good draftpick and a full scale coaching change. 2017 is when I see us starting to turn the corner. Unless JB goes and gets two top 6 guys... then were a non-competitive bubble team
- neem55



I see WD assessed by Xmas if stays or goes but much depends on JB's final roster moves. If a big UFA like Eriksson is signed & a trade or 2 is made WD will be pushed to win. Green would be his replacement IMO. As for an AC i like an old vet like Guy Boucher type cuz he did a great job in TB in their formulative years.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:49 PM ET
I see WD assessed by Xmas if stays or goes but much depends on JB's final roster moves. If a big UFA like Eriksson is signed & a trade or 2 is made WD will be pushed to win. Green would be his replacement IMO. As for an AC i like an old vet like Guy Boucher type cuz he did a great job in TB in their formulative years.
- Nighthawk


Boucher is the coach of Ottawa I believe
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:49 PM ET
I'm worng and you're talking about a guy who scored 70 points in 70 games being traded for a prospect!?

How did the Gudbranson trade prove anything? We didn't give up anything like a duchene. Except, oh wait, it does show that a prospect (McCann) is not enough it itslef to land a descent PROVEN player, so a very high pick was added (#33).

On top of this, Duchene is better than Gudbranson (and I really like and value defensive d-men, but still). I'm done with this conversation, as you can't seem to wrap your head around DUchene being a 1C and the value of that. I agree with the expansion coming teams will be more willing to trade, but they are not going to trade proven assets for a single prospect, that's madness.

- neem55

Yeah!! and Gudbranson and Duchene are both 3rd oa picks, I'd love to have both.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:49 PM ET
He led before, in Dallas. Google, give it a shot.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yes, I am aware. My point is he didnt do that well there so was there demonstrative improvement being the AC hence 'off the board'.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:50 PM ET
I'm worng and you're talking about a guy who scored 70 points in 70 games being traded for a prospect!?

How did the Gudbranson trade prove anything? We didn't give up anything like a duchene. Except, oh wait, it does show that a prospect (McCann) is not enough it itslef to land a descent PROVEN player, so a very high pick was added (#33).

On top of this, Duchene is better than Gudbranson (and I really like and value defensive d-men, but still). I'm done with this conversation, as you can't seem to wrap your head around DUchene being a 1C and the value of that. I agree with the expansion coming teams will be more willing to trade, but they are not going to trade proven assets for a single prospect, that's madness.

- neem55

You are right, it is pointless to talk to you.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:52 PM ET
Me too, I honestly never liked Hartley and his 7 game segment garbage.
- FLflames34


I thought it was a wise choice to keep the kids focussed.
Go 4/3 each time & its the PO's.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:53 PM ET
Boucher is the coach of Ottawa I believe
- neem55


I stand corrected thx
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:58 PM ET
Farhan lalji

Benning had "a lot of calls today" on pick #5. There were "some names in the market place that I hadn't heard before". #Canucks


Benning still isn't looking to move the 5th pick but does expect dialogue to increase in the next week. Has 6 players he likes so happy at 5


Benning maintains he wants to add a 20-30 goal scorer in free agency along with a 2-way fwd. Hasn't made a decision on Higgins & Burrows yet


Benning calls Tkachuk & Dubois foundational players. Says MT is going to be a scorer in NHL w/ better vision than dad. Sees PLD as a center
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
I stand corrected thx
- Nighthawk

Good coach, very defensive. I think Karlson will be getting much less minutes under him and hopefully learn d-zone stuff.
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