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chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 17 @ 4:56 PM ET
Depends on how he goes about it. Duchene is available and our 5OA could be used to get him. I know people want to keep it and draft/develope. But at 25 years old he can be our 1C for 5-8 more years. That is a long time to find a repalcement, and makes us competitive now and keeps us competitive after the sedins. Build something around 5OA+Burrows(cap dump) for Duchene and then send Higgins +2017 4th for a 6th in 2016 or 2017. Trade Hansen for a 1st or 2nd+, Sbisa for a 3rd. Sign Brouwer/Lucic.

Sedin-Sedin-Brouwer
Lucic-Duchene-Sutter
Baer-BoHo-Rodin/Etem
X-Granlund-Dorsett

JV starts in Utica or takes 4th line LW. Not ideal to trade our 5OA, but the proven quality of Duchene is worth the unproven quality of Tkachuk/Dubois.

- Retinalz


Did I read this right? Send Higgins and a 4th to get a 6th?

(frank) that noise....keep Higgins the 1 season and retain the 4th.......we dont need his cap space that bad and if we did.....Utica baby!
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 17 @ 4:57 PM ET
One more year of WD and we get a good draftpick and a full scale coaching change. 2017 is when I see us starting to turn the corner. Unless JB goes and gets two top 6 guys... then were a non-competitive bubble team
- neem55

well IF we got a guy that knows systems and great w special teams we could be winning this coming season. Assistants play some key roles, so if it fills the holes WD has in his coaching then we are going to be much much better.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
guys who play both left and right wing.
- RealityChecker

clever answer bro..... if they're real messed its center and goal lol
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 17 @ 4:59 PM ET
Agreed. I really think Yeo would have been a good signing, seems like he's going to be good for a long while and keeps mediocre teams in series they have no business being competitive in (really, the wild are much worse without him and don't see how losing that series was a let down at all before that two competitive years against CHi-town). It would be great, they're not that common unfortunately but maybe we'll get lucky.
- neem55

agreed....yeo would have been the perfect fit. Slam dunk
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Watch all the bipolars freak out about asset management now.....

WE LOST GULUTZEN! OH MY WORD! WE SHOULDA FIRED WILLIE!!! WHINE WHINE BIPOLAR BIPOLAR!

- chompsey

Everyone has known for a few days now he was the front runner and nobody said anything of the sort...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Depends on how he goes about it. Duchene is available and our 5OA could be used to get him. I know people want to keep it and draft/develope. But at 25 years old he can be our 1C for 5-8 more years. That is a long time to find a repalcement, and makes us competitive now and keeps us competitive after the sedins. Build something around 5OA+Burrows(cap dump) for Duchene and then send Higgins +2017 4th for a 6th in 2016 or 2017. Trade Hansen for a 1st or 2nd+, Sbisa for a 3rd. Sign Brouwer/Lucic.

Sedin-Sedin-Brouwer
Lucic-Duchene-Sutter
Baer-BoHo-Rodin/Etem
X-Granlund-Dorsett

JV starts in Utica or takes 4th line LW. Not ideal to trade our 5OA, but the proven quality of Duchene is worth the unproven quality of Tkachuk/Dubois.

- Retinalz


I think that duchene requyires more than a 5th
lets see a gold medal, multiple 30/20 goal seasons... ya
I think if we deal Edler and another young player(gaunce/ped) and the 5th maybe (and its a big maybe) colorado goes for it.

People have speculated that teams don't want Duchene cause he didn't go at the TDL, this is just way off. The price is just very high (and should be frankly)
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:00 PM ET
Did I read this right? Send Higgins and a 4th to get a 6th?

(frank) that noise....keep Higgins the 1 season and retain the 4th.......we dont need his cap space that bad and if we did.....Utica baby!

- chompsey

So sign both Lucic and Brouwer and take Duchene's contract we may need that 2.5mil. We will have to trade down to get rid of him, maybe a 5th for a 6th or 4th for a 5th. I would like the team to have a 2mil cushion going into the season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
Depends on how he goes about it. Duchene is available and our 5OA could be used to get him. I know people want to keep it and draft/develope. But at 25 years old he can be our 1C for 5-8 more years. That is a long time to find a repalcement, and makes us competitive now and keeps us competitive after the sedins. Build something around 5OA+Burrows(cap dump) for Duchene and then send Higgins +2017 4th for a 6th in 2016 or 2017. Trade Hansen for a 1st or 2nd+, Sbisa for a 3rd. Sign Brouwer/Lucic.

Sedin-Sedin-Brouwer
Lucic-Duchene-Sutter
Baer-BoHo-Rodin/Etem
X-Granlund-Dorsett

JV starts in Utica or takes 4th line LW. Not ideal to trade our 5OA, but the proven quality of Duchene is worth the unproven quality of Tkachuk/Dubois.

- Retinalz

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 17 @ 5:01 PM ET
So sign both Lucic and Brouwer and take Duchene's contract we may need that 2.5mil. We will have to trade down to get rid of him, maybe a 5th for a 6th or 4th for a 5th. I would like the team to have a 2mil cushion going into the season.
- Retinalz

sunny tuesday afternoons
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:02 PM ET
agreed....yeo would have been the perfect fit. Slam dunk
- SMBDragon


There's a chance Julien leaves Boston, I know a lot of folks probably don't want to see the guy who beat us but it would be a good fit. He knows how to coach the type of team JB is building.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:04 PM ET
I think that duchene requyires more than a 5th
lets see a gold medal, multiple 30/20 goal seasons... ya
I think if we deal Edler and another young player(gaunce/ped) and the 5th maybe (and its a big maybe) colorado goes for it.

People have speculated that teams don't want Duchene cause he didn't go at the TDL, this is just way off. The price is just very high (and should be frankly)

- neem55

You over estimate the value of Duchene and undervalue the price of a pick. with expansion rearing it's ugly head, teams want less players they feel that they NEED to protect. Vancouver is in a good position there as we only have 3 dmen that need protection and currently only 6 forwards out of the 7 that need it(sedins-sutter-boho-baer-hansen) any other forward can be exposed and who cares if we lose them. trading hansen gives room for duchene and the 1 other spot is lucic/brouwer and sutter can be exposed as i doubt LV takes that contract, if they do oh well we got 2 seasons out of him and he can be replaced. 5OA+Burrows contract+Etem/Rodin for Duchene is fair, we may even be able to get a 2nd or 3rd back.
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:05 PM ET
Depends on how he goes about it. Duchene is available and our 5OA could be used to get him. I know people want to keep it and draft/develope. But at 25 years old he can be our 1C for 5-8 more years. That is a long time to find a repalcement, and makes us competitive now and keeps us competitive after the sedins. Build something around 5OA+Burrows(cap dump) for Duchene and then send Higgins +2017 4th for a 6th in 2016 or 2017. Trade Hansen for a 1st or 2nd+, Sbisa for a 3rd. Sign Brouwer/Lucic.

Sedin-Sedin-Brouwer
Lucic-Duchene-Sutter
Baer-BoHo-Rodin/Etem
X-Granlund-Dorsett

JV starts in Utica or takes 4th line LW. Not ideal to trade our 5OA, but the proven quality of Duchene is worth the unproven quality of Tkachuk/Dubois.

- Retinalz

sweet baby Jesus
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 17 @ 5:08 PM ET
You over estimate the value of Duchene and undervalue the price of a pick. with expansion rearing it's ugly head, teams want less players they feel that they NEED to protect. Vancouver is in a good position there as we only have 3 dmen that need protection and currently only 6 forwards out of the 7 that need it(sedins-sutter-boho-baer-hansen) any other forward can be exposed and who cares if we lose them. trading hansen gives room for duchene and the 1 other spot is lucic/brouwer and sutter can be exposed as i doubt LV takes that contract, if they do oh well we got 2 seasons out of him and he can be replaced. 5OA+Burrows contract+Etem/Rodin for Duchene is fair, we may even be able to get a 2nd or 3rd back.
- Retinalz

I think you're undervaluing Duchenes worth more then anything.. A top 5-10 pick is what you can only pray turns into a Duchene like player..
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:09 PM ET
You over estimate the value of Duchene and undervalue the price of a pick. with expansion rearing it's ugly head, teams want less players they feel that they NEED to protect. Vancouver is in a good position there as we only have 3 dmen that need protection and currently only 6 forwards out of the 7 that need it(sedins-sutter-boho-baer-hansen) any other forward can be exposed and who cares if we lose them. trading hansen gives room for duchene and the 1 other spot is lucic/brouwer and sutter can be exposed as i doubt LV takes that contract, if they do oh well we got 2 seasons out of him and he can be replaced. 5OA+Burrows contract+Etem/Rodin for Duchene is fair, we may even be able to get a 2nd or 3rd back.
- Retinalz


I dont know what else to say other than IMO you're way, way off. a 5oa for a 1c proven player with olympic/allstar caliber talent. He's 25 and got 60 points last year, you are dreaming.

That said, I would love Duchene to Van to happen. I truly think Tanev is the only player they would want. Tanev and 5th might get it done.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 17 @ 5:09 PM ET
Everyone has known for a few days now he was the front runner and nobody said anything of the sort...
- NorthNuck



You havent been here long enough. I was being sarcastic. If this was mid-season you most definitely would have heard about it. You should have seen the uproar when Aaron Volpatti was lost on waivers....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 17 @ 5:10 PM ET
I dont know what else to say other than IMO you're way, way off. a 5oa for a 1c proven player with olympic/allstar caliber talent. He's 25 and got 60 points last year, you are dreaming.

That said, I would love Duchene to Van to happen. I truly think Tanev is the only player they would want. Tanev and 5th might get it done.

- neem55



I wish you guys would quit trading Tanev....jesus...
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 17 @ 5:11 PM ET
who are the bipolars?
- SMBDragon


me and me
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 17 @ 5:12 PM ET
There's a chance Julien leaves Boston, I know a lot of folks probably don't want to see the guy who beat us but it would be a good fit. He knows how to coach the type of team JB is building.
- neem55

true
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:12 PM ET
I wish you guys would quit trading Tanev....jesus...
- chompsey


If it's for a 1c, I'm on board. Its the premier position for us to fill.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 17 @ 5:14 PM ET
You havent been here long enough. I was being sarcastic. If this was mid-season you most definitely would have heard about it. You should have seen the uproar when Aaron Volpatti was lost on waivers....
- chompsey

Oh i understood what you meant. I just seem to hear a lot more about how crazy and "bipolar" canucks fans are than actually hear them being crazy or whatever.
It's some peoples favourite topic to bring up whenever something minor happens, rather than discussing the news itself.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:15 PM ET
I dont know what else to say other than IMO you're way, way off. a 5oa for a 1c proven player with olympic/allstar caliber talent. He's 25 and got 60 points last year, you are dreaming.

That said, I would love Duchene to Van to happen. I truly think Tanev is the only player they would want. Tanev and 5th might get it done.

- neem55

Tanev is at worst a #3 defenseman and even on most teams a solid #2. Tanev + 5OA for Duchene is overkill by a Tanev or a 5OA. Burrows onyl negative value is his contract which is just for 1 year, he is still an NHL caliber player. Picks seem to be worth more lately than in years past. Duchene alone would not land 3OA this year and that is with CBJ needing a 1C badly as well.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:16 PM ET
If it's for a 1c, I'm on board. Its the premier position for us to fill.
- neem55

If Col. would take Tanev and 5oa for Duchene I'd be all over it.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 17 @ 5:17 PM ET
Tanev is at worst a #3 defenseman and even on most teams a solid #2. Tanev + 5OA for Duchene is overkill by a Tanev or a 5OA. Burrows onyl negative value is his contract which is just for 1 year, he is still an NHL caliber player. Picks seem to be worth more lately than in years past. Duchene alone would not land 3OA this year and that is with CBJ needing a 1C badly as well.
- Retinalz

I would bet on that and I don't bet.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:20 PM ET
Tanev is at worst a #3 defenseman and even on most teams a solid #2. Tanev + 5OA for Duchene is overkill by a Tanev or a 5OA. Burrows onyl negative value is his contract which is just for 1 year, he is still an NHL caliber player. Picks seem to be worth more lately than in years past. Duchene alone would not land 3OA this year and that is with CBJ needing a 1C badly as well.
- Retinalz


Again, it's just a difference of opinion. I really don't think that's true at all and you've done nothing to substantiate your opinion. A proven player is worth more than a prospect. If you were saying "toronto would not trade Matthews for Duchene straightup" I think that's actually debatable. But Duchene for Puuljarvi is a no-brainer for columbus. 1C is the hardest position other than 1D to fill in the NHL and he has the talent to do it. That and he's coming off of season's where continues to increase his point total and has a fairly reasonable contract at 6 mil for another three seasons.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:21 PM ET
If Col. would take Tanev and 5oa for Duchene I'd be all over it.
- A_SteamingLombardi


So would I, in a heartbeat.
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