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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:30 PM ET
Fowler's contract situation is a tough one too. great value at 4 mil for 2 years but then you likely wind up overpaying to re-sign him once the deal is up.
- Sabresfan-365

2 years is great.

"17-18" That's the only tattoo I'm thinking if getting
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:30 PM ET
You have to recuse yourself in this discussion, you are still stuck on THE TRADE
- GilPerreault11


One oft injured defensemen with one skill set for another oft injured defensemen with a different skill set...
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
His contract is not fine. It's awful. He's over paid and has a NMC that kicks in after this year and until 2020
- bluengold12


No, Moulson's contract is awful. If his contract was awful there would be no market to trade him at all; if he was as terrible as some of you state why do you hope to get such a nice return in a potential trade?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:31 PM ET
One oft injured defensemen with one skill set for another oft injured defensemen with a different skill set...
- Stripes77

Myers played 30 more games than Bogo over the last few years. And is just plain better.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:33 PM ET
2 years is great.

"17-18" That's the only tattoo I'm thinking if getting

- sbroads24


Oh man Id leave nothing to chance that year. toss away picks prospects like nothing
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:34 PM ET
No, Moulson's contract is awful. If his contract was awful there would be no market to trade him at all; if he was as terrible as some of you state why do you hope to get such a nice return in a potential trade?
- GilPerreault11



The nice return in trading Bogosian is the cap space we get back. I do not expect much at all in a potential trade unless some archaic GM still thinks throwing big hits=great defender.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
He's overrated to you, he traded for him for a reason. Anything else ?
- SABRES 89


He traded for Kane. I'm sure Bogosian was enticing piece but if he's so good with such a good contract, Winnipeg wouldn't have been so quick to give him up. Also I'm sure by now Murray is probably sick of his defensive liabilities and injury problems.

I'm not saying he's calling teams to trade him but he will definitely take calls and be open to getting rid of that contract.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
Oh man Id leave nothing to chance that year. toss away picks prospects like nothing
- Sabresfan-365

I wouldn't go that far

SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jun 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
plays half the year and then he gets injured

he's done for the playoffs that's very useful

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Did he not play well during the last 1/3 of the season? Perhaps his stomach injury negatively impacted his play through-out the year? Looking at the Sabres D right now, who could step in and play RHD on the second pairing and replace Bogo?


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
He traded for Kane. I'm sure Bogosian was enticing piece but if he's so good with such a good contract, Winnipeg wouldn't have been so quick to give him up. Also I'm sure by now Murray is probably sick of his defensive liabilities and injury problems.

I'm not saying he's calling teams to trade him but he will definitely take calls and be open to getting rid of that contract.

- bluengold12

I wouldn't be sure of the last part. Murray likes Bogo. Another reason why I'm skeptical of Murrah
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
I wouldn't go that far
- sbroads24



Im mostly kidding but id be devastated if they couldnt go far while a decent chunk of their core was still making next to nothing on the cap.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:37 PM ET
Watch us keep Bogo and sign Kris Russell
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:38 PM ET
Watch us keep Bogo and sign Kris Russell
- sbroads24


Dont even joke about that poop
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:38 PM ET
Myers played 30 more games than Bogo over the last few years. And is just plain better.
- sbroads24



Myers has played 21 more games since the 2011-2012 season. A massive 4.2 games per season more.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:38 PM ET
Watch us keep Bogo and sign Kris Russell
- sbroads24

Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:39 PM ET
Watch us keep Bogo and sign Kris Russell
- sbroads24



You take that back, right now!
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:40 PM ET
I wouldn't be sure of the last part. Murray likes Bogo. Another reason why I'm skeptical of Murrah
- sbroads24


Murray has said countless times he will take calls on all players except Eichel and O'Riley pretty much. Of course you'd include Risto and Reinhart in that discussion too. He is all about opportunity. I guarantee he'd be open to it if an offer came in he deemed fair enough
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:41 PM ET
Watch us keep Bogo and sign Kris Russell
- sbroads24


Then sign Foligno and Girgensons to 3mill per contracts each and sign 1 or 2 more "vets" for depth.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:42 PM ET
The nice return in trading Bogosian is the cap space we get back. I do not expect much at all in a potential trade unless some archaic GM still thinks throwing big hits=great defender.
- Sabresfan-365


Some D happen to skate, can make an outlet pass (unlike Myers) AND hit (unlike Myers) who happen to have size and play the 2nd PP unit and are in demand. Now, can he make better decisions at times? Sure, but D do not reach their peak until latter than forwards. I think he's a keeper.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
Watch us keep Bogo and sign Kris Russell
- sbroads24


I will go to Buffalo and poop on his doorstep
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
Some D happen to skate, can make an outlet pass (unlike Myers) AND hit (unlike Myers) who happen to have size and play the 2nd PP unit and are in demand. Now, can he make better decisions at times? Sure, but D do not reach their peak until latter than forwards. I think he's a keeper.
- GilPerreault11


The only thing Bogosian does in his own end is get whiffed on by a pass that goes right by his swirling eyes.

When healthy he is a decent PP defender and finds himself in the right spot on the offensive zone. Not unlike a former Sabre who is universally hated and plays in another northern american city
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
You take that back, right now!
- Stripes77

Wouldn't shock me. He did trade for Gorges. Russell is Gorges with better skating/offense
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 1:45 PM ET
Myers has played 21 more games since the 2011-2012 season. A massive 4.2 games per season more.
- Stripes77

and was a healthy scratch at times
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
Wouldn't shock me. He did trade for Gorges. Russell is Gorges with better skating/offense
- sbroads24


Different point in the rebuild though. I mean I wouldn't rule it out but I dont think they'd be interested. Although I didn't think the stars would be either so who knows.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
and was a healthy scratch at times
- homiedclown


As was Bogosian in Winnipeg
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