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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
Worst run team in the NHL!

- MJL

egg on face etc
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
How many have they really used?

I'm assuming since every team used the two compliance buyouts we aren't counting them.

- mayorofangrytown


Teams that used 2 compliance buyouts - 9
Teams that used 0 compliance buyouts - 13
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 1:17 PM ET
Hexy will want fair value or no deal. He said he's content to stay at 18 unless the right deal comes along.
- dragonoffrost


Yeah I'd prefer to stay at 18 all things considered.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:18 PM ET
I get you have to give value to get value but why does Schenn's name keep coming up.

Flyers just invested 5 development years in him. He's gradually built his game towards living up to the hype he once had. That hype was just as big if not bigger than anyone getting picked after #3 in this draft.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:18 PM ET


Nicely done.

- arichardson22

I started reading the article and it mentioned the 23 yo Kyle Okposo and I knew I'd been had
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
I get you have to give value to get value but why does Schenn's name keep coming up.

Flyers just invested 5 development years in him. He's gradually built his game towards living up to the hype he once had. That hype was just as big if not bigger than anyone getting picked after #3 in this draft.

- Baxter27

3 (or 4) year deal coming this summer. Schenn's best years and he will be in Orange and Black
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:19 PM ET
New York Islanders ‏@NYIslanders 25 May 2011
#Isles agree to terms with Kyle Okposo on a five-year deal. http://ow.ly/532DE


oh poop, look at the date



I've been twittered

- Marc D



Dude...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:20 PM ET


Dude...

- mayorofangrytown

I was like, good for them, locking him up.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
this one is even better


‏@DarrenDreger
Breaking: Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with Philadelphia. 14 years, upwards of $100 mil. Preds have 7 days to match. Wow!!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:21 PM ET
Teams that used 2 compliance buyouts - 9
Teams that used 0 compliance buyouts - 13

- Just5

Hey, really? No kidding? I really thought everyone had ponied up. I guess I was myopically watching the Flyers twist in the wind.

Huh... Thanks. I know a new thing.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 1:23 PM ET
I get you have to give value to get value but why does Schenn's name keep coming up.

Flyers just invested 5 development years in him. He's gradually built his game towards living up to the hype he once had. That hype was just as big if not bigger than anyone getting picked after #3 in this draft.

- Baxter27


I want to keep Schenn, but :

A) His value has never been higher
B) contract talks could go sour
C) He's been links with trade rumors for years and it's fun to continue them (?)
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
this one is even better


‏@DarrenDreger
Breaking: Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with Philadelphia. 14 years, upwards of $100 mil. Preds have 7 days to match. Wow!!

- Marc D

Man, it's crazy looking back at that and being disappointed/somewhat surprised that the Preds did match. But in hindsight as much as I like Weber, I'm now glad the Preds matched.

Looking ahead to the expansion draft, Weber doesn't have a NMC so they don't have to protect him. Is it crazy to think that Weber will be left unprotected so they can protect Josi, Ekholm, and Ellis? I don't see an expansion team picking a 30 year old d-man who's contract doesn't expire til 2026.

Edit: He'll be 31 in August so 32 before he ever skates for the expansion team.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:25 PM ET
Hey, really? No kidding? I really thought everyone had ponied up. I guess I was myopically watching the Flyers twist in the wind.

Huh... Thanks. I know a new thing.

- mayorofangrytown



Yup the rhetoric that all the teams in the league have cap issues is largely conjecture and hyperbole.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 16 @ 1:27 PM ET
If a young forward with 20+ goals under his belt doesn't move you from 18 to 10 then just brush your hands together and walk away. Schenn +18 should move you into the top ten.

I don't think you're over valuing Schenn at all.

- mayorofangrytown


I was thinking the second was the sweetener if Schenn doesn't sign with Col. Probably should have said conditional 2nd.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:28 PM ET
Yup the rhetoric that all the teams in the league have cap issues is largely conjecture and hyperbole.
- Just5

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 16 @ 1:28 PM ET
Yup the rhetoric that all the teams in the league have cap issues is largely conjecture and hyperbole.
- Just5


The Pens are 2 Mill over the cap right now per General Fanager
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:30 PM ET
Man, it's crazy looking back at that and being disappointed/somewhat surprised that the Preds did match. But in hindsight as much as I like Weber, I'm now glad the Preds matched.

Looking ahead to the expansion draft, Weber doesn't have a NMC so they don't have to protect him. Is it crazy to think that Weber will be left unprotected so they can protect Josi, Ekholm, and Ellis? I don't see an expansion team picking a 30 year old d-man who's contract doesn't expire til 2026.

Edit: He'll be 31 in August so 32 before he ever skates for the expansion team.

- five4fighting10

It turned out OK for now. It would have been awesome to have him for a few years though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:32 PM ET
I get you have to give value to get value but why does Schenn's name keep coming up.

Flyers just invested 5 development years in him. He's gradually built his game towards living up to the hype he once had. That hype was just as big if not bigger than anyone getting picked after #3 in this draft.

- Baxter27


We have to get the grass is greener on the other side player. The shiny new toy that is better than the toys we have. Etc, etc.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:33 PM ET
this one is even better


‏@DarrenDreger
Breaking: Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with Philadelphia. 14 years, upwards of $100 mil. Preds have 7 days to match. Wow!!

- Marc D


Here's one out of left field. I heard a lot of roasting of Weber near seasons end this year. They're at risk of losing one of 2 good young Dmen if they choose to protect Weber from expansion instead. If you're a team with the opportunity to take on that contract for a reasonable price, do you do it? Nashville may just bite the bullet instead of explaining why they traded the contract after paying the bulk of the money upfront.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:33 PM ET
New York Islanders ‏@NYIslanders 25 May 2011
#Isles agree to terms with Kyle Okposo on a five-year deal. http://ow.ly/532DE


oh poop, look at the date



I've been twittered

- Marc D


lol ouch
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:33 PM ET
I want to keep Schenn, but :

A) His value has never been higher
B) contract talks could go sour
C) He's been links with trade rumors for years and it's fun to continue them (?)

- arichardson22


I've never understood the "value has never been higher" angle. Flyers have the leverage in contract negotiations for now.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:35 PM ET
this one is even better


‏@DarrenDreger
Breaking: Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with Philadelphia. 14 years, upwards of $100 mil. Preds have 7 days to match. Wow!!

- Marc D


lol

@POTUS
Breaking: We landed a man on the moon!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:38 PM ET
lol

@POTUS
Breaking: We landed a man on the moon!

- Scoob


Steven Stamkos has agreed to terms on a five-year contract with the #TBLightning.

(another old one just popped up again)
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 1:38 PM ET
Man, it's crazy looking back at that and being disappointed/somewhat surprised that the Preds did match. But in hindsight as much as I like Weber, I'm now glad the Preds matched.

Looking ahead to the expansion draft, Weber doesn't have a NMC so they don't have to protect him. Is it crazy to think that Weber will be left unprotected so they can protect Josi, Ekholm, and Ellis? I don't see an expansion team picking a 30 year old d-man who's contract doesn't expire til 2026.

Edit: He'll be 31 in August so 32 before he ever skates for the expansion team.

- five4fighting10


very interesting. i could see that going either way. josi is the real stud there now.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:39 PM ET
Steven Stamkos has agreed to terms on a five-year contract with the #TBLightning.

(another old one just popped up again)

- Marc D


lol - too bad you let the cat out of the bag. This thread would've blown up were that the first one you posted.
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