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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
Great trade for Carolina. They had a load of picks, & paid a pittance for Teravainen
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
Thank you! Morin does not as anyone with two year or less experience in the NHL do not need to be protected. My guess is we lose Nuevy (assuming he is resigned). May be consideration for trading him this offseason to a team like DAL?
- coffee junkie


Just to clarify, it's 2 years of combined AHL/NHL (maybe ECHL, too) experience. That's why Ghost has to be protected.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
Their cap is likely to decrease because of the bonuses paid to Panarin
- PhillySportsGuy


I know, but I would have thought they'd rather buy him out.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
Teravainen>>>>Laughton
Bickel contract>>>>>MacDonald contract

- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
Great trade for Carolina. They had a load of picks, & paid a pittance for Teravainen
- Jsaquella

I would have made that trade
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
Yeah
- Streit2ThePoint


2nd rounder >>>>>> 4th rounder
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
You know id actually consider that deal, do it now before we need the space then latter when we would get trade raped (like chi did).
- flyers4487



I mean I know it's not ideal.



Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
Their cap is likely to decrease because of the bonuses paid to Panarin
- PhillySportsGuy

Eklund is of the opinion that they are freeing up cap space for Malkin
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
Just to clarify, it's 2 years of combined AHL/NHL (maybe ECHL, too) experience. That's why Ghost has to be protected.
- jmatchett383


The latest rumors also suggest AHL time as a teenager doesn't count as a pro season (similar to the ELC slide rule), so guys like Hagg and Nylander would be exempt.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
Wish the Flyers made this move. Have the assets and will have the cap space with an Umberger buyout.
- PhillySportsGuy

I still lean towards not buying him out and just finishing that salary poop sandwich this year. It doesn't make a huge difference, just what I would do. I like where we're at with the cap, generally.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
Staal is still a good player and the Canes don't need to move him. I would argue that he's not even overpaid by much, if at all.
- PhillySportsGuy


exactly. maybe by about a mil. but the same can be said of lots of guys. people trying to throw him in there with the worst contracts ever is hard for me to get on board with.
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
Good blog!
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
Staal is still a good player and the Canes don't need to move him. I would argue that he's not even overpaid by much, if at all.
- PhillySportsGuy

Not sure why you assume I implied this. I agree he is a good player and could be used on the Flyers. The contract is heavy and would need AMAC or Umby going the other way as part of the deal IMHO. But I was serious that I think CAR is considering trading him as has been rumored and Philly may be interested.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
The latest rumors also suggest AHL time as a teenager doesn't count as a pro season (similar to the ELC slide rule), so guys like Hagg and Nylander would be exempt.
- Feanor


I like that.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
2nd rounder >>>>>> 4th rounder
- jmatchett383


depends on the selection
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
depends on the selection
- Streit2ThePoint


Not when you're talking about the slot instead of the selected player.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
I know, but I would have thought they'd rather buy him out.
- jmatchett383


They did need picks in the worst way too. I agree though.

Trading both saves about $5M in cap space next year. Buying out Bickel saves about $2.7M
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
Just to clarify, it's 2 years of combined AHL/NHL (maybe ECHL, too) experience. That's why Ghost has to be protected.
- jmatchett383

Your clarity>>>>>>>>My explanation
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
I mean I know it's not ideal.
- J35Bacher

It beats buying him out, we are going to need every bit of cap space we can get in a few years if everyone pans out like we hope.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
Not when you're talking about the slot instead of the selected player.
- jmatchett383


agree to disagree
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

Jun 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
What about McDavid??? Any chance?? maybe Read, Hagg, and a 3rd??

Hes GOTTA be sick of Edmonton by now and Ive heard hes always wanted to be a Flyer??

Could add Umberger to the stew if they need some sweetener.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
Not sure why you assume I implied this. I agree he is a good player and could be used on the Flyers. The contract is heavy and would need AMAC or Umby going the other way as part of the deal IMHO. But I was serious that I think CAR is considering trading him as has been rumored and Philly may be interested.
- coffee junkie

yuck that would be weird seeing him on the flyers.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
I think if Chicago still felt TT was a great prospect they would have found another way to move Bickell, even if it came to a buyout.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
18th pick and they have to take andy mac for the ruskie...
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
If Cousins outplays Laughton again this season then Laughton probably wouldn't be protected in an expansion draft. So, a Laughton trade is a possibility, for sure.
- Feanor



Yeah.

I just don't see a huge ceiling for Laughton. Like how much better will he be compared to Leirer or Cousins? Is he a top 6 or bottom 6(which I feel the Flyers have plenty of.)

Maybe move him now while people still think he has a potential before he has another up and down type season.

I don't know what the right play is. But if I can use Laughton to move MacDonald that interest me a lot.
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