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flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 15 @ 2:29 PM ET
What if Hextall told Umberger that they can afford to keep him around another year because they are rebuilding. They won't buy him out but if he wants they could mutually terminate the deal so he can look for another opportunity. Right now he is slotted for the 13th forward role.
- J35Bacher

People were thinking that could be a possibility with Vinny, however he made wayyy more money then RJ has. He would be nuts to walk away from 3mill just to play some more hockey... (which he could still do if they buy him out).
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 15 @ 2:30 PM ET
...that only makes it worse.

But I do enjoy the support, especially in such a pubic forum.

- jmatchett383


LOL!
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 15 @ 2:30 PM ET
Eva Notty...


NSFW

- sjk540

Too big imho
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
Why? As an avid fan of Saved by the Bell who has desecrated many a sock to her, I wouldn't have to look it up.
- jmatchett383


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
Why? As an avid fan of Saved by the Bell who has desecrated many a sock to her, I wouldn't have to look it up.
- jmatchett383


I guess I just didn't care that she even had a last name on the show.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 15 @ 2:32 PM ET
People were thinking that could be a possibility with Vinny, however he made wayyy more money then RJ has. He would be nuts to walk away from 3mill just to play some more hockey... (which he could still do if they buy him out).
- flyers4487



Well Vinny is walking away from money since he said he would retire to facilitate a trade.

I believe there is no way a team takes Vinny, including the kings, if he isn't agreeing to retire.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 15 @ 2:32 PM ET
I would put it out there. I'll pay him to play his 13th forward role. If injuries happen use call ups over him. Just let him sit for a year. Then the full cap is gone.

Does he have better chance of a deal just sitting a year basically of maybe finding a team, play on a cheap deal an parlay it into a little more of a deal.

At his age and production he isn't going to get a lot after this year either way.

- J35Bacher


I'll go out on a limb and say he's probably not going to get anything from anywhere when this contract is over.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 15 @ 2:32 PM ET
Too big imho
- aightwebang17


my kind of woman, like em a little bigger.

very sexy tho
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 15 @ 2:34 PM ET
I'll go out on a limb and say he's probably not going to get anything from anywhere when this contract is over.
- Scoob



He might get another cheap deal. Hell Zubrus is still around.

goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Jun 15 @ 2:34 PM ET
Right now, Hexy is waterboarding Umberger to agree to a mutually agreed termination.
- jmatchett383


But I just why everybody thinks that Sam Gagner is unlikely for next year.
Personally I think he does have a place on this team
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

Jun 15 @ 2:35 PM ET
But I just why everybody thinks that Sam Gagner is unlikely for next year.
Personally I think he does have a place on this team

- goenzoy


Sorry I meant "But I dont understand just why"
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 2:38 PM ET
I'm talking post-80s/Edmonton, and even post-lockout.

Still, I don't know if he was even a top-3 goalie, and again, I think that Moog and Ranford were just about as good.

- jmatchett383


Ranford was pretty streaky, when he was on, he was fantastic, when he was cold, he could be awful. Moog was very steady and consistent. Fuhr though, much like Billy Smith in the Isles heyday, always played his best in the biggest games. To me, that's when a goalie earns his keep.





J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 15 @ 2:40 PM ET
But I just why everybody thinks that Sam Gagner is unlikely for next year.
Personally I think he does have a place on this team

- goenzoy



I think he is more option z.

He isn't in the future plan but could be a fallback option if nothing happens.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 15 @ 2:41 PM ET
Why? As an avid fan of Saved by the Bell who has desecrated many a sock to her, I wouldn't have to look it up.
- jmatchett383



Jenny McCarthy on singled out.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 15 @ 2:43 PM ET
I said it was what iExpect from you
- jmatchett383


Everything iOwn is an Apple product so it just looks like normal text to me
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 2:44 PM ET
Ranford was pretty streaky, when he was on, he was fantastic, when he was cold, he could be awful. Moog was very steady and consistent. Fuhr though, much like Billy Smith in the Isles heyday, always played his best in the biggest games. To me, that's when a goalie earns his keep.
- BiggE


Ah, so he's Mike Vernon.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 15 @ 2:45 PM ET
we talking 40+ sexy women...

make mine Carla Gugino....

- Ripped Fuel


This is probably the first and only time I'll agree with you
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 2:45 PM ET
Jenny McCarthy on singled out.
- J35Bacher


Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 2:47 PM ET
But I just why everybody thinks that Sam Gagner is unlikely for next year.
Personally I think he does have a place on this team

- goenzoy


Depends on how much money he'd want and the circumstances involved (i.e.--other moves Hexy tries don't work as expected), but I could see a scenario where he comes back.

I just don't think it's going to happen.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 15 @ 2:47 PM ET
Well Vinny is walking away from money since he said he would retire to facilitate a trade.

I believe there is no way a team takes Vinny, including the kings, if he isn't agreeing to retire.

- J35Bacher


Vinny did walk away from some cash, but he's also getting money from Tampa for another 10-12 years.

Umberger has a NMC, so he can block a move to the minors and the extra season of dead cap is a minor penalty. The biggest issue is, if the Flyers sign Schenn for $4.5mm and Gudas for $2.5mm they'd have about $2-$2.5mm left under the cap needing to fill a couple minor holes, if the cap stays stagnant as Daly says it will
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 15 @ 2:49 PM ET
Sorry I meant "But I dont understand just why"
- goenzoy


I think the "why" comes from figuring out what the market is for Sam Gagner.

He's not getting a raise on what he was making (if anything, I suspect he's getting a substantial paycut). Does he want term? What's he looking for?

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 15 @ 2:49 PM ET
Vinny did walk away from some cash, but he's also getting money from Tampa for another 10-12 years.

Umberger has a NMC, so he can block a move to the minors and the extra season of dead cap is a minor penalty. The biggest issue is, if the Flyers sign Schenn for $4.5mm and Gudas for $2.5mm they'd have about $2-$2.5mm left under the cap needing to fill a couple minor holes, if the cap stays stagnant as Daly says it will

- Jsaquella


Assuming of course that they don't trade Read, Streit or, by a minor miracle, AMac.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 15 @ 2:50 PM ET
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yes.

- jmatchett383


Once you've seen her butthole the luster wears off
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 15 @ 2:53 PM ET
Once you've seen her butthole the luster wears off
- YuenglingJagr

truly words to live by
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 2:54 PM ET
Once you've seen her butthole the luster wears off
- YuenglingJagr


I am more interested in the front half, which would be just fine.
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