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Morris_Wanchuk
Location: Palm Isle
Joined: 02.05.2016

Jun 15 @ 4:36 PM ET
yeah maybe..

But no one is asking for Hyman to be thrown into a trade.. He doesnt have much trade value right now.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


I'm not saying he's a high value chip at this stage but I see him as becoming a Babcock fav and definitely wouldn't classify him same as guys like Percy et al...
Salami_Tsunami
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 06.04.2016

Jun 15 @ 4:37 PM ET
yeah maybe..

But no one is asking for Hyman to be thrown into a trade.. He doesnt have much trade value right now.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Definitely not as a centrepiece. He would be a nice complimentary piece tho, being young & having a low cap hit.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 4:38 PM ET
Just saw something..... The new nhl draft hat comes with precurved bill, but players now flatten it out. Back in the day the bill came flat and players would curve them

Salami_Tsunami
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 06.04.2016

Jun 15 @ 4:40 PM ET
Just saw something..... The new nhl draft hat comes with precurved bill, but players now flatten it out. Back in the day the bill came flat and players would curve them


- burn


Oh how the times have changed! I can just imagine players struggling to straighten them out. Bring your iron & ironing boards boys, you're gonna need them!
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 15 @ 4:42 PM ET
I'm not saying he's a high value chip at this stage but I see him as becoming a Babcock fav and definitely wouldn't classify him same as guys like Percy et al...
- Morris_Wanchuk


probably similar trade value though
PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Jun 15 @ 4:42 PM ET
THey have2 spots on d for scandella, dumba, spurgeon and Brodin.

Dumba and Brodin?

- burn

One spot. Suter and Spurgeon are auto-protected.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
Just saw something..... The new nhl draft hat comes with precurved bill, but players now flatten it out. Back in the day the bill came flat and players would curve them


- burn



i remember when i switched from curved to flat... i was instantly labeled as a druggie by family..
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
I think StL would be looking for a C back if they trade Shat and lose Backes

But the fans would only be willing to part with Bozak and a 5th for Shat.

I think 1 of the guys you have as keepers would have to go back.

But I won't name names and disrupt the thread

- Garnie



Ya my "rant-ish" post wasn't directed at you and more about that if the Leafs want to be a playoff team they will have to pay players.....and pay more than Bozak in a trade for players.

The rebuild has not just started...kinda but not really. I think it started with Reilly. So Reilly, Nylander, Marner, Matthews are the new core that we should now start to build around. That can happen fairly quickly with a few other key pieces since we have JVR, Kadri, Gardiner, Komarov and a few others.

If we can get and PAY for Stamkos, find and pay for a #2D and #1G...all around 26 yrs old and younger....we are much closer than some think.

But again, we are going to have to add some players who make real money and are acquired with real pieces. The same reasons that Bozak won't get you Shattenkirk.....players that are overpaid at $4.5m won't win you the Cup. Bozak and Pitts 1st and a B prospect....maybe.

Players who DESERVE a big salary are the talented players that win. That's how you get the Cup.

Kopitar, Toews, Kane, Crosby, Malkin, Seabrook, Keith, Doughty, Lundquist, Crawford,...........you know the players that always get picked first to bring home gold medals....like on the playground. It shouldn't be that hard to understand.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
I don't know yet, haven't seen him
Play 1 game. Have you? If not what are you basing your "he's going to be a good player" on?

AA?

- Garnie



bump
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 15 @ 4:48 PM ET
Ya my "rant-ish" post wasn't directed at you and more about that if the Leafs want to be a playoff team they will have to pay players.....and pay more than Bozak in a trade for players.

The rebuild has not just started...kinda but not really. I think it started with Reilly. So Reilly, Nylander, Marner, Matthews are the new core that we should now start to build around. That can happen fairly quickly with a few other key pieces since we have JVR, Kadri, Gardiner, Komarov and a few others.

If we can get and PAY for Stamkos, find and pay for a #2D and #1G...all around 26 yrs old and younger....we are much closer than some think.

But again, we are going to have to add some players who make real money and are acquired with real pieces. The same reasons that Bozak won't get you Shattenkirk.....players that are overpaid at $4.5m won't win you the Cup. Bozak and Pitts 1st and a B prospect....maybe.

Players who DESERVE a big salary are the talented players that win. That's how you get the Cup.

Kopitar, Toews, Kane, Crosby, Malkin, Seabrook, Keith, Doughty, Lundquist, Crawford,...........you know the players that always get picked first to bring home gold medals....like on the playground. It shouldn't be that hard to understand.

- underhill14


I didnt think it was
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
Just saw something..... The new nhl draft hat comes with precurved bill, but players now flatten it out. Back in the day the bill came flat and players would curve them


- burn



Do they have to pull up their pants too..

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
bump
- Garnie

his hockey skillz
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 4:55 PM ET
Oh how the times have changed! I can just imagine players struggling to straighten them out. Bring your iron & ironing boards boys, you're gonna need them!
- Salami_Tsunami



Don't forget to leave the sticker on it.
Morris_Wanchuk
Location: Palm Isle
Joined: 02.05.2016

Jun 15 @ 4:56 PM ET
probably similar trade value though
- Tumbleweed

Maybe. Who knows for sure right now, but it certainly seems as though Percy went from top prospect a few years back to the sense that he's on the verge of falling off the chart entirely. He seemed really poised the first couple times he had a shot (couple season's back when he filled in for a few games) to last year when he seemed totally error prone and without any confidence. Maybe it was hanging around Brennan too much....
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 15 @ 4:56 PM ET
Not sure why you guys still have a question with Lupul's status...

1. He is having/had an abdominal surgery that takes a LONG time to heal.
2. LL already said he doesn't think he will play this year.

Lupul, Horton and Robidas are all on LTIR.

Done.

- underhill14

If #1 is true, Hunwick is also out for a LONG time.

Same sports hernia surgery.
orienbrady22
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 02.14.2013

Jun 15 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm not saying he's a high value chip at this stage but I see him as becoming a Babcock fav and definitely wouldn't classify him same as guys like Percy et al...
- Morris_Wanchuk


Good energy guy, Leivo is better imo.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 15 @ 4:57 PM ET
his hockey skillz
- Arctic_AARDVARK



good answer, but have you witnessed them much?



anyways...Shattenkirk would be ok if we got him at a good cost!!!
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 4:58 PM ET
One spot. Suter and Spurgeon are auto-protected.
- PlatosRepucklic



Spurgeon doesn't have a nmc. Isn't auto protected according to generalfananger expansion tool.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 15 @ 4:59 PM ET
good answer, but have you witnessed them much?



anyways...Shattenkirk would be ok if we got him at a good cost!!!

- Garnie

I just think Shats stats are inflated a bit thats all..

As for Zaits, meh... not a lot... but i know hes good.. Not sure if hes a top pairing guy, but i wouldnt rule it out
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 5:01 PM ET


Do they have to pull up their pants too..


- Garnie



Morris_Wanchuk
Location: Palm Isle
Joined: 02.05.2016

Jun 15 @ 5:03 PM ET
Good energy guy, Leivo is better imo.
- orienbrady22

Leivo likely has a better skill set but I get the sense Hyman projects as one of those Helm / Abdelkator type guys MB depends on.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 15 @ 5:03 PM ET

- burn



Sorry, that was the basketball draft
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 15 @ 5:04 PM ET
I just think Shats stats are inflated a bit thats all..

As for Zaits, meh... not a lot... but i know hes good.. Not sure if hes a top pairing guy, but i wouldnt rule it out

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Wouldnt hurt to have both...I doubt we end up with Shat anyways...too soon IMO.

steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 15 @ 5:05 PM ET
I just think Shats stats are inflated a bit thats all..

As for Zaits, meh... not a lot... but i know hes good.. Not sure if hes a top pairing guy, but i wouldnt rule it out

- Arctic_AARDVARK


He can be a liability in his own zone sometimes, but is a great skater/puck mover which is the type of game that the Leafs want to play. My guess is that Bozak and a 2nd round pick should suffice in a trade. He's 4th on their depth chart behind Pietrangelo, Boumeester and Parayko
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 15 @ 5:06 PM ET
Sorry, that was the basketball draft
- Garnie




Saw a guy riding his bike like that, wtf. There wasn't a stitch of his pants that was in contact with his bike seat.
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