Agreed. Started off last year pretty well.

Play him if healthy. See what he can do. If he plays well it helps, if he gets injured he opens room for someone else.
- burn

Agree - was one of the best players on the team when healthy.

Dude, if that's the price for Shattenkirk, you take it and run!
- WingmanWillie

Hard to part with a top Center like bozak...but you have to give to get i guess

Dude, if that's the price for Shattenkirk, you take it and run!
- WingmanWillie

no doubt about it!!

Hard to part with a top Center like bozak...but you have to give to get i guess
- senstroll

he'd definitely replace their top center , David Backes!

Hard to part with a top Center like bozak...but you have to give to get i guess
- senstroll

Hard to part with a top Center like bozak...but you have to give to get i guess
- senstroll

ya...gonna get Shattenkirk with Bozak

Don't dare talk about trading a good player though ( fair trade )...or people try to run you out of the thread.

he'd definitely replace their top center , David Backes!
- MCharisma91

Hasnt been the same since his donnybrook with Kadri.

Hard to part with a top Center like bozak...but you have to give to get i guess
- senstroll

Young Tyler will help make them younger too

ya...gonna get Shattenkirk with Bozak

Don't dare talk about trading a good player though ( fair trade )...or people try to run you out of the thread.
- Garnie

Agreed. This is fair:


Shattenkirk + 2nd for bozak

Hasnt been the same since his donnybrook with Kadri.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I used to be a huge Backes fan too!

I used to be a huge Backes fan too!
- MCharisma91

But if he's leaving and they need a 3rd line C, Bozak kind of fits the bill.

If we need to part with a prospect like Brown, as well as the PIT pick, I probably would still do it.

We'd at least have a strong top 4

But if he's leaving and they need a 3rd line C, Bozak kind of fits the bill.

If we need to part with a prospect like Brown, as well as the PIT pick, I probably would still do it.

We'd at least have a strong top 4
- WingmanWillie

(frank) that... No to including Brown..

I don't think that's the case here, player only signed through to next year do not need to be protected. Rules still have not fully been explained but contract status and injury status are bones of contention right now. Apparently, Leafs may have to protect Horton.
- winsix

Don't think so. They were told that Horton is ok and Carrick is definitely in the mix. He's entering his 4th year and already has over 50 games in the NHL.

The union would never allow him to be treated unfairly. I suspect his injuries are worse than we know - or at least are unknown. LTIR doesn't begin until the season starts so they've got a few months to figure it all out.
- The Law

I am pretty sure the Union answers to uncle Lou.

Don't think so. They were told that Horton is ok and Carrick is definitely in the mix. He's entering his 4th year and already has over 50 games in the NHL.
- The Law

According to the leaks from the weekend guys like Horton and clowe with career ending injuries won't have to be protected.

But if he's leaving and they need a 3rd line C, Bozak kind of fits the bill.

If we need to part with a prospect like Brown, as well as the PIT pick, I probably would still do it.

We'd at least have a strong top 4
- WingmanWillie

rather include Percy or Leivo ...

According to the leaks from the weekend guys like Horton and clowe with career ending injuries won't have to be protected.
- burn

Yep - that's what I was thinking of.

Don't think so. They were told that Horton is ok and Carrick is definitely in the mix. He's entering his 4th year and already has over 50 games in the NHL.
- The Law

I hope that's the case with Horton.

rather include Percy or Leivo ...
- MCharisma91

Trading Brown now would be one of the dumbest things they could do..

Especially just for a 3/4D...

But if he's leaving and they need a 3rd line C, Bozak kind of fits the bill.

If we need to part with a prospect like Brown, as well as the PIT pick, I probably would still do it.

We'd at least have a strong top 4
- WingmanWillie

You like him better than Barrie? Shattenkirk, will be looking at a huge raise next year, Barrie at 24 will be cheaper and is controlable for 3 more years. Shattenkirk (aka William Shatner Kirk) is UFA next year and will be wanting big payday, somewhere between Phaneuf and Subban. Just saying - unless we can sign him to an extension as part of any deal, rental players don't make much sense for the Leafs in 2016-17

Agreed. This is fair:


Shattenkirk + 2nd for bozak
- Tumbleweed

of course

You like him better than Barrie? Shattenkirk, will be looking at a huge raise next year, Barrie at 24 will be cheaper and is controlable for 3 more years. Shattenkirk (aka William Shatner Kirk) is UFA next year and will be wanting big payday, somewhere between Phaneuf and Subban. Just saying - unless we can sign him to an extension as part of any deal, rental players don't make much sense for the Leafs in 2016-17
- winsix

I would think a contract would be done before the trade....or at least discussed.

I hope that's the case with Horton.
- winsix

Leafs are pretty good either way. They could add a couple fwds and still be in good shape.

Trading Brown now would be one of the dumbest things they could do..

Especially just for a 3/4D...
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You honestly think that Shat is just a 3/4D....,?

Agree - was one of the best players on the team when healthy.
- winsix

Not sure why you guys still have a question with Lupul's status...

1. He is having/had an abdominal surgery that takes a LONG time to heal.
2. LL already said he doesn't think he will play this year.

Lupul, Horton and Robidas are all on LTIR.

Done.