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TBolts4
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Apollo Beach, FL
Joined: 06.01.2013

Jun 14 @ 2:23 PM ET
The NMC's will make trading Carle, Callahan, Filpulla & Garrison near impossible due to the fact that IF they agreed to the trade, the team trading for them would have to protect them. Tampa's is in a bad situation indeed regardless of Stamkos.

These are 4 contracts they'll need to protect. They can buyout 1 or 2 of them but it'll still hurt their cap. Trading Bishop - which they'll need to do or risk losing Vasilevskiy - should be the primary game plan, and again, that's not to be able to sign Stamkos but to be able to preserve their core team from expansion!

They are allowed to protect 11 skaters - 7 after those 4 - of which Colburn, Stralman and Bishop need protecting. Leaves you 4 players left to protect.

My prediction:
Stamkos walks
Bishop is traded (and not for as much as he should be able to normally get)
Carle gets bought out
Callahan gets bought out (if they even can - I think there may be a limitation of the number of buy-outs - not sure) or traded for a similiar salary dump but NO NMC on the player coming back

NMC's on perimeter/marginalized players will be putting a lot of teams in the doghouse!

- SmileyG


Bishop doesnt need to be protected as he would be a FA a couple of weeks later.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 14 @ 2:29 PM ET
What do you lightning fans think of this:

To Flames: bishop, carle

To lightning: poirer, wideman, 3rd rd pick

The Lightning would save nearly in 6 mil in cap space for this year.... And widemans contract will be off the books after one season

- Kunit

Solid deal. I'd hold out for a 2nd though instead of the 3rd.
the_voice
Joined: 11.25.2014

Jun 14 @ 3:49 PM ET
There are two issues, cap space and expansion draft protection. As it sits now, Callahan and Filppula have to be protected in the expansion draft while Carle doesn't. Since Callahan has more productivity than Filppula, priority one is moving Filppula while priority two is moving Callahan. Retain salary on these two if you must. They must be gone by this time next year so you can protect the kids. If Carle can be given away or bought out, that would be nice as well. Hey, all three for a bag of pucks would be a great trade.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:00 PM ET
There are two issues, cap space and expansion draft protection. As it sits now, Callahan and Filppula have to be protected in the expansion draft while Carle doesn't. Since Callahan has more productivity than Filppula, priority one is moving Filppula while priority two is moving Callahan. Retain salary on these two if you must. They must be gone by this time next year so you can protect the kids. If Carle can be given away or bought out, that would be nice as well. Hey, all three for a bag of pucks would be a great trade.
- the_voice

They could buy Filppula out before next years expansion draft.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
Callahan is the only NMC they will potentially be forced to protect.
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jun 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
To me he was the most improved player on the team this past year. And I like him even more after this tweet.

https://twitter.com/Andre...status/742800432901304320

Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jun 14 @ 5:48 PM ET
Callahan is the only NMC they will potentially be forced to protect.
- Feds91Stammer


Think he might be willing to be moved to Buffalo but would require Tampa to retain some salary.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 14 @ 6:07 PM ET
Think he might be willing to be moved to Buffalo but would require Tampa to retain some salary.
- Leafsandbolts

Buffalo would also have to be interested in acquiring him.
SmileyG
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.14.2016

Jun 14 @ 6:13 PM ET
Bishop doesnt need to be protected as he would be a FA a couple of weeks later.
- TBolts4


Totally missed that - my bad....
SmileyG
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.14.2016

Jun 14 @ 6:23 PM ET
There are two issues, cap space and expansion draft protection. As it sits now, Callahan and Filppula have to be protected in the expansion draft while Carle doesn't. Since Callahan has more productivity than Filppula, priority one is moving Filppula while priority two is moving Callahan. Retain salary on these two if you must. They must be gone by this time next year so you can protect the kids. If Carle can be given away or bought out, that would be nice as well. Hey, all three for a bag of pucks would be a great trade.
- the_voice



Carle's got a NMC going into 2017/2018 - they have to protect him...unless I'm missing something in the NMC (the details of the NMC are unknown in capfriendly)
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 14 @ 6:31 PM ET
Carle's got a NMC going into 2017/2018 - they have to protect him...unless I'm missing something in the NMC (the details of the NMC are unknown in capfriendly)
- SmileyG

You are confusing NTC and NMC. Callahan and Filppula are the only 2 that have NMCs that would require protection and Filppula would be a perfect buyout candidate next offseason.
SmileyG
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.14.2016

Jun 14 @ 6:51 PM ET
You are confusing NTC and NMC. Callahan and Filppula are the only 2 that have NMCs that would require protection and Filppula would be a perfect buyout candidate next offseason.
- Feds91Stammer


Actually yes - I am fairly confused - TSN has reported that it's likely NTC's can be exposed
my bad - again lol
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jun 14 @ 7:10 PM ET
Buffalo would also have to be interested in acquiring him.
- Feds91Stammer


They wanted him last time.
jbs32
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 07.10.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:26 AM ET
The most recent thing I heard is all partial and full NTC and NMC will have to be protected. That list would include Callahan Filpulla Carle Coburn and Garrison. There is a lot of misinformation out there and we won't know for sure until it's official. But at least 3 or 4 of those five would have to be moved if they have to be protected.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:42 AM ET
The most recent thing I heard is all partial and full NTC and NMC will have to be protected. That list would include Callahan Filpulla Carle Coburn and Garrison. There is a lot of misinformation out there and we won't know for sure until it's official. But at least 3 or 4 of those five would have to be moved if they have to be protected.
- jbs32

Anyone in the NTC/NMC have to be protected. However, you can ask them to wave it so that others can be protected.
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jun 15 @ 5:06 PM ET
Anyone in the NTC/NMC have to be protected. However, you can ask them to wave it so that others can be protected.
- Artyukhin76

I also think that 3 of Callahan, Coburn, Filppula, Garrison and Carle will be gone before the expansion draft next season. Carle, Garrison and Filppula being my guesses. Garrison and Filppula will have 1 year left on there deals and would probably be asked to waive it if they are still on the team.
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 15 @ 5:19 PM ET
Not resigning Stamkos, buying out Carle and letting Bishop go will solve this problem. Stamkos is going to demand way to much and will ruin this team as did the Lecavalier deal did.
- Artyukhin76

are we buying carle out or not ?
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jun 15 @ 7:22 PM ET
are we buying carle out or not ?
- todd1a

Have until June 30th. I am sure Yzerman will try everything in his power to trade him and retain less then buyout amount before doing the buyout.
Artyukhin76
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.25.2009

Jun 15 @ 7:53 PM ET
Have until June 30th. I am sure Yzerman will try everything in his power to trade him and retain less then buyout amount before doing the buyout.
- stammerman

Yzerman is at Howes funeral, doubt anything happens today.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jun 16 @ 10:29 AM ET
Solid expansion draft tool on Generalfanager that shows 70/40, salaries, exempt players and allows 7/3/1 or 8/1 protection lists.
MaxTLimit
Ottawa Senators
Location: Middle 'o Nowehre, ON
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jun 16 @ 1:34 PM ET
Lightning sign Stamkos. That is a big domino to fall...


Steven Stamkos has agreed to terms on a five-year contract with the #TBLightning.

- Tampa Bay LightningVerified account
‏@TBLightning



... totally legit guys....
todd1a
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Valrico, FL
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 16 @ 3:17 PM ET
Lightning sign Stamkos. That is a big domino to fall...




... totally legit guys....

- MaxTLimit


un true its false going around on twitter
MaxTLimit
Ottawa Senators
Location: Middle 'o Nowehre, ON
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jun 16 @ 3:30 PM ET
un true its false going around on twitter
- todd1a

No!
Really? I'm SHOCKED!

Shocked!

gmoney91
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: South Park, PA
Joined: 02.11.2012

Jun 16 @ 10:09 PM ET
They don't need to protect Bishop because he's a UFA.
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