I agree none of these would be most appropriate options for Leafs.. (Bishop too expensive I would think)

Best options IMO:

1/ Schneider (NJ going nowhere next 3-5 seasons)
2/ John Gibson
3/ Mrazek

If none of these guys can be had in a trade, try for Halak or Steve Mason.
- MaximusAurelius

I'd love gibson, Mrazek or Vasi, but don't see any getting moved.

A seldom talked about option is Calvin Pickard - good numbers, and could be cheap as Colorado are dumb AF....

write a blog about it!
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Leafs nation only brother, Randy was dead to me before we fired him

We won't pry Schneider out of NJ unless they trade a good prospect + picks..

Gibson is the guy in ANA..


Mrazek sucks.. lol.. Also Halak is garbage now and Mason is pretty weak..

Idk... its really hard to find a good goalie now..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Schneider: JVR + Bozak + Bernier?
Gibson would be hard to trade for indeed.
Mrazek is a great goalie..
Halak is not garbage, Mason a wildcard..

If Pittsburgh was smart they'd trade Murray right now..

Command a kings ransom...

Also trade Malkin..

But they won't..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Pittsburgh has big time cap issues, Murray not going anywhere - Fleury should pack his bags. As far as Malkin goes - solid talent, overpriced and inconsistent. Lots of teams would take him - I'm not certain Pens would get big return and the fans would be PO'd trading a star coming off a cup win. He might be traded - but it would be a complicated deal for sure.

Schneider: JVR + Bozak + Bernier?
Gibson would be hard to trade for indeed.
Mrazek is a great goalie..
Halak is not garbage, Mason a wildcard..
- MaximusAurelius

I think the requirements to trade for a veteran goalie right now are the goalie has to be available, cheap and good.

Halak – not good
Schnieder – not cheap
Gibson – can’t see Ana trading him
Det – can’t see det trading their better goalie - howard
Mason – I’d be surprised if philly trades him.

There might be some fighting in the stands between Buffalo fans and Leaf fans. The sight of the sour look ( like he bit into a big piece of Shiit ) on Tim Murray's face after he did the epic tank job last year - trading goalies that had a pulse off the NHL roster - and he lost the pick

- winsix

They'll be bitter for sure.. They'll all declare that Eichel>Matthews.. Riots will ensue..

Just checking in to see the rumors

Glad to see Malkin isn't going anywhere and Fleury is going to Edmonton (W4)

Schneider: JVR + Bozak + Bernier?
Gibson would be hard to trade for indeed.
Mrazek is a great goalie..
Halak is not garbage, Mason a wildcard..
- MaximusAurelius

Schneider not going anywhere - Blackwood would be of significant interest. He's one of the best goalie prospects around - projects as a solid #1. One of the few goalies that is worth overpaying for. Gibson - forget him, Mrazek is staying in Detroit - they are also in Cap trouble - and will try to move Howard or expose him in expansion - as he will not get a huge price. Halak - would be best friends with Lupul on injury island and Mason - not good enough. We probably should try for Andersen or Blackwood.

Schneider not going anywhere - Blackwood would be of significant interest. He's one of the best goalie prospects around - projects as a solid #1. One of the few goalies that is worth overpaying for. Gibson - forget him, Mrazek is staying in Detroit - they are also in Cap trouble - and will try to move Howard or expose him in expansion - as he will not get a huge price. Halak - would be best friends with Lupul on injury island and Mason - not good enough. We probably should try for Andersen or Blackwood.
- winsix

Blackwood is still a year or two away from full-time starter duties, IMO.

If we are going that route, I might rather Samsonov from Washington

Pittsburgh has big time cap issues, Murray not going anywhere - Fleury should pack his bags. As far as Malkin goes - solid talent, overpriced and inconsistent. Lots of teams would take him - I'm not certain Pens would get big return and the fans would be PO'd trading a star coming off a cup win. He might be traded - but it would be a complicated deal for sure.
- winsix

Really? Cullen, Lovejoy, Sestito, and Zatkoff are all UFA and Schultz is RFA. Dupuis is already retired. If the Pens trade Fleury, that's 5.75 gone!

The season after, Kunitz, Daley, Bonino will all be UFA and Kunitz will likely retire.

No big time cap issues at all!

Schneider not going anywhere - Blackwood would be of significant interest. He's one of the best goalie prospects around - projects as a solid #1. One of the few goalies that is worth overpaying for. Gibson - forget him, Mrazek is staying in Detroit - they are also in Cap trouble - and will try to move Howard or expose him in expansion - as he will not get a huge price. Halak - would be best friends with Lupul on injury island and Mason - not good enough. We probably should try for Andersen or Blackwood.
- winsix

Cap trouble and Howard on the worst goalie contract in NHL is reason why I think Leafs could make a trade on Mrazek work.

Blackwood makes more sense for NJ over Toronto (Toronto needs a goalie now, NJ in 2-3 seasons from now)

Really? Cullen, Lovejoy, Sestito, and Zatkoff are all UFA and Schultz is RFA. Dupuis is already retired. If the Pens trade Fleury, that's 5.75 gone!

The season after, Kunitz, Daley, Bonino will all be UFA and Kunitz will likely retire.

No big time cap issues at all!
- DeflatedPucks

Respectfully Disagree

Malkin 9.5, Sid 8.7, Kessel 6.8, Hornquist 4.25, Kunitz 3.75, Fleury 5,7, Letang 7,25, Maata 4.1, Cole 2.1, Dupuis 3.75 and 1.125 burried. Makes it about $57 million for 10 players leaving 13 million to spend on the remaining roster.

Plus Schultz and Bennet are RFA - and will be getting a raise this year.

That's crap, Leafs should not trade for Stammers rights! They owe Tampa nothing and neither does Stammer.........come July 1st he signs with any team he chooses and absolutely NO toes have been stepped on..........if he goes to Toronto or another team it's solely because Tampa chose to go a different direction......no team can afford to keep everyone in the salary cap era.
- Bullot

But what if they could get rid of Bozak, even if it meant adding a middling prospect that may never make it? A guy like Leivo, for example? Just so the Bolts don't end up with nothing and get a center who is fairly cheap and can play behind Kucherov and TJ. Roster spot opens up at the AHL level to accommodate some draft picks making the jump


Also, I know it has been beaten to death, but can someone please point out in the CBA where it mentions that the player has to have played for the team the previous season to sign for the full 8 years? Just because I was sure that as long as it was your own player you could sign him for 8, but that doesn't seem to be the case?

Respectfully Disagree

Malkin 9.5, Sid 8.7, Kessel 6.8, Hornquist 4.25, Kunitz 3.75, Fleury 5,7, Letang 7,25, Maata 4.1, Cole 2.1, Dupuis 3.75 and 1.125 burried. Makes it about $57 million for 10 players leaving 13 million to spend on the remaining roster.

Plus Schultz and Bennet are RFA - and will be getting a raise this year.
- winsix

Dupuis - Retired. (-3.75)
Lovejoy - UFA (-1.1)
Cullen - UFA (-.8)
Schultz - RFA won't be qualified most likely (-3.9/4) - so that's also off
I m not sure in what world Bennett would be getting a raise....

That's already 9-10 million off the books before even considering a Fleury trade.

Cap trouble and Howard on the worst goalie contract in NHL is reason why I think Leafs could make a trade on Mrazek work.

Blackwood makes more sense for NJ over Toronto (Toronto needs a goalie now, NJ in 2-3 seasons from now)
- MaximusAurelius

They have some cap problems, but not to the extent that it makes sense to trade mzarek.

They’ll need to go out and get a goalie if they trade mzarek.

But what if they could get rid of Bozak, even if it meant adding a middling prospect that may never make it? A guy like Leivo, for example? Just so the Bolts don't end up with nothing and get a center who is fairly cheap and can play behind Kucherov and TJ. Roster spot opens up at the AHL level to accommodate some draft picks making the jump


Also, I know it has been beaten to death, but can someone please point out in the CBA where it mentions that the player has to have played for the team the previous season to sign for the full 8 years? Just because I was sure that as long as it was your own player you could sign him for 8, but that doesn't seem to be the case?
- WingmanWillie

I think it has to be in the leafs incentive to make a trade – that they are able to clear a few roster spots for meh prospects no longer in the plan (leivo, s.carrick, goat etc). And yzerman gets to save a little face.

I think Holland may make more sense than bozak for TB. Bozak’s salary kinda screws up their cap next year.

The rule is the player has to be on the roster as of the trade deadline for an 8-year deal: 50.8 Prohibited SPC Terms and Practices.

Dupuis - Retired. (-3.75)
Lovejoy - UFA (-1.1)
Cullen - UFA (-.8)
Schultz - RFA won't be qualified most likely (-3.9/4) - so that's also off
I m not sure in what world Bennett would be getting a raise....

That's already 9-10 million off the books before even considering a Fleury trade.
- DeflatedPucks

None of Lovejoy, Cullen were on the list, Dupuis being put on LTIR does not completely eliminate his salary from cap issues.

Salary cap situation Dupuis is placed on injured reserve with two-thirds of the season remaining, which means two-thirds of his salary can be applied to the LTIR exemption. His $3.750 million salary still counts against the team’s upper limit but $2.500 million of it is able to be used towards the exemption. Prior to his being placed on injured reserve the team had $153 thousand in available salary space remaining, thus by exercising the LTIR exemption option the team is allowed to exceed the salary cap by $2.247 million.

Add Bonino instead of Dupuis to my original list and you are still looking at $55 million for 10 players - so the Pens have $16.4 million to spend on 13 roster players just over a million per. That's tighter than a bull's ass at fly time.

AW can answer that since he's a season ticket holder for the Leafs.
- zazzle

Heading to one for the Bruins, but I don't think they had them in prior years...makes me wonder if they have something up their sleeve

the team is rebuilding and bozak is 30

he will be well into his declining years by the time the leafs are actually competitive
- Dozzer

oh I get it completely, and if the Leafs are able to sign Stamkos, Bozak's trade value (which probably isn't significant to begin with) falls further.

I'm just thrilled with how the old roster and contract purge went... retaining a grand total of 1.2M/per year to rid themselves of Kessels, Phanuef's and Clarkson's CAP hits is incredible.

I can't wait to see what else "magic Lou" comes up with.

His 5 for 1 deal raised a few eyebrows, but sure worked out. I wouldn't be suprised to see a couple of similar deals (maybe not as big)...

They have some cap problems, but not to the extent that it makes sense to trade mzarek.

They’ll need to go out a get a goalie if they trade mzarek.
- Tumbleweed

If I'm correct, Detroit only have 16 guys signed for coming season with 13mln left.
That's actually 15 guys (not counting Datsyuk).
They need to resign 3 d-men (DeKeyser, Marchenko) and Mrazek + at least 2 forwards for the 13mln. That's not going to work.

So unless Detroit somehow works miracles and trades Howard + Datsyuk + something really interesting to Carolina for nothing, Detroit is in a lot of problems.
As is, if Datsyuk indeed does not play for the team this season, they might be the worst of team in NHL. (Datsyuk eating up 7mln capspace, Howard one of the worst goalies in league with bad caphit, Franzen, Abdelkader, Ericsson on bad contracts as well).

They have some cap problems, but not to the extent that it makes sense to trade mzarek.

They’ll need to go out a get a goalie if they trade mzarek.
- Tumbleweed

Absolutely.

Hell, their best move right now would be to move Abdelkader... he's on just as bad a contract as Howard (perhaps worse when you consider term).

Heading to one for the Bruins, but I don't think they had them in prior years...makes me wonder if they have something up their sleeve
- RickJames77

Maybe they'll be picking second round quality players in the first this time, rather than third rounders like last year...?

Maybe they'll be picking second round quality players in the first this time, rather than third rounders like last year...?
- lumlums

You're such an bumhole

I think it has to be in the leafs incentive to make a trade – that they are able to clear a few roster spots for meh prospects no longer in the plan (leivo, s.carrick, goat etc). And yzerman gets to save a little face.

I think Holland may make more sense than bozak for TB. Bozak’s salary kinda screws up their cap next year.

The rule is the player has to be on the roster as of the trade deadline for an 8-year deal: 50.8 Prohibited SPC Terms and Practices.
- Tumbleweed

This is exactly why it doesn't make sense to trade for a player's rights anymore; Leafs can already talk with Stamkos pre-1st of July; no added value (since no option for 8y contract). btw Leivo is still in Leafs' plans.
And nobody cares about saving Yzerman's face.
Trade only makes sense for Toronto if it's giving them a week more to speak with Stamkos; e.g. trading Grabnar/Parenteau/Cowen to Tampa.

Absolutely.

Hell, their best move right now would be to move Abdelkader... he's on just as bad a contract as Howard (perhaps worse when you consider term).
- lumlums

He's one of the worst goalies in NHL last 2 seasons.
Bernier is better by far.