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Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:58 AM ET
He's got a good contract.
Would be good to keep. But people have to realize, if we sign stammer, we have needs elsewhere. Who would bring back more? Bozak or Kadri?

- Fakepartofme


they didnt sign kadri to a cap friendly 6 year deal so they could keep bozak

the fact he was locked up at the same time as rielly pretty much shows that the leafs intend on moving forward with him

i do honestly believe if Bozak didnt get hurt last year he would be gone by now
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:59 AM ET
Grabovski to Ducks e4.2
- TheMussel

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:00 AM ET
nylander will be on the wing this year... he only was give the C duties due to lack of options last year
- Dozzer

Yup.
I think you'll see him on wing for a while.
It was obvious they feel more comfortable with him on wing as they would shuffle him over to wing during pressure situations on the marlies run.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:00 AM ET
they didnt sign kadri to a cap friendly 6 year deal so they could keep bozak

the fact he was locked up at the same time as rielly pretty much shows that the leafs intend on moving forward with him

i do honestly believe if Bozak didnt get hurt last year he would be gone by now

- Dozzer


so sensible... therefore it can't be true in LeafLand.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:01 AM ET
Never said that

Just possibilities if we have 3 better C's but thanks for playing

- Garnie



i think the chances are 0.0% ...I am not even sure why its brought up at all
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:01 AM ET
Yup.
I think you'll see him on wing for a while.
It was obvious they feel more comfortable with him on wing as they would shuffle him over to wing during pressure situations on the marlies run.

- Fakepartofme


yup... grooming him for both C and wing

he will be one of those guys that, depending on the roster, will be shifted to wherever is necessary (my belief anyways)
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:03 AM ET
so sensible... therefore it can't be true in LeafLand.
- BorjeFan4Ever


the team is rebuilding and bozak is 30

he will be well into his declining years by the time the leafs are actually competitive

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
i think the chances are 0.0% ...I am not even sure why its brought up at all
- senstroll



It's in the blog - and nothing is ever zero
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
they didnt sign kadri to a cap friendly 6 year deal so they could keep bozak

the fact he was locked up at the same time as rielly pretty much shows that the leafs intend on moving forward with him

i do honestly believe if Bozak didnt get hurt last year he would be gone by now

- Dozzer

Possibly yes. One would think.
However, Stammer changes that. If they get him.
If they do get him, I could see both being eventually moved long term. 3rd line centers are not hard to find.
Sign Stammer, maybe move Bozak now (or keep him I guess), then move Kadri once Matthews is more comfortable and they need to fill a gap or shift money around in a year or two.
So many options.
but Kadri brings back a better return no doubt, however, he has a great cap hit as well. Just maybe not so great as 3rd liner in a few years. Who knows.
Kurtsy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: North sydney, NS
Joined: 05.11.2015

Jun 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
Have they shown the full jersey with the new logo yet or is Matthews going to do it next week
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 9:04 AM ET
It's in the blog - and nothing is ever zero
- Garnie


ah..I dont read them
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:05 AM ET
Possibly yes. One would think.
However, Stammer changes that. If they get him.
If they do get him, I could see both being eventually moved long term. 3rd line centers are not hard to find.
Sign Stammer, maybe move Bozak now (or keep him I guess), then move Kadri once Matthews is more comfortable and they need to fill a gap or shift money around in a year or two.
So many options.
but Kadri brings back a better return no doubt.

- Fakepartofme


oh i agree on the return part

but like i mentioned earlier the league is shifting to more of a top 9 meant for scoring and a checking line as the 4th line

look at the cup champs this year.. kessel anchored a 3rd line scoring threat
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 14 @ 9:07 AM ET
He's got a good contract.
Would be good to keep. But people have to realize, if we sign stammer, we have needs elsewhere. Who would bring back more? Bozak or Kadri?

- Fakepartofme

I say keep Kadri, but at the same time it's difficult because then you have to account for what comes back the other way. If the Leafs were able to package Kadri + for a top pairing defensman, I'd say keep Bozak and trade Kadri to address that need.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:07 AM ET
oh i agree on the return part

but like i mentioned earlier the league is shifting to more of a top 9 meant for scoring and a checking line as the 4th line

look at the cup champs this year.. kessel anchored a 3rd line scoring threat

- Dozzer

Yes that is one example.
However, he was initially only placed on the line, cause he wasnt gelling with either of the first two lines. Not really by design at the time.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 14 @ 9:08 AM ET
yup... grooming him for both C and wing

he will be one of those guys that, depending on the roster, will be shifted to wherever is necessary (my belief anyways)

- Dozzer


Always good to have players like this, if nothing else but to take a faceoff if a centre is ejected from the circle.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:08 AM ET
I say keep Kadri, but at the same time it's difficult because then you have to account for what comes back the other way. If the Leafs were able to package Kadri + for a top pairing defensman, I'd say keep Bozak and trade Kadri to address that need.
- RickJames77

I agree.
The harsh reality for leaf fans (if they sign stammer) will be that some players and prospects who are liked could be moved to fill other needs.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 14 @ 9:09 AM ET

- AdamFrench



walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 14 @ 9:09 AM ET
I say keep Kadri, but at the same time it's difficult because then you have to account for what comes back the other way. If the Leafs were able to package Kadri + for a top pairing defensman, I'd say keep Bozak and trade Kadri to address that need.
- RickJames77

Jesus. I can only imagine the fun on here if we trade Kadri away and he ends up winning a cup elsewhere.
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 14 @ 9:10 AM ET
Not next year i don't think either - but if Matthews is the real deal and Kadri can bring back a good return - you have to think they may go for it - unless they think Nylanders a bust I guess.
- Garnie


How about the option to switch Kadri to the wing? He has a great cap hit for what he brings...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 14 @ 9:11 AM ET
You move Kadri to the wing. Players will go down with injuries. That's why we got Holland for a 2nd rnd pick.
- zazzle



Kadri doesn't work on the wing. Why put the better player on he wing?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
How about the option to switch Kadri to the wing? He has a great cap hit for what he brings...
- PhilMcCracken

To me this doesn't make sense. I would move Nylander to the wing before Kadri. Assuming the Leafs sign Stamkos (1C), then have Kadri (2c), and Matthews (3C).

That's some sweet center depth. Wait are we talking about that Leafs
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
Jesus. I can only imagine the fun on here if we trade Kadri away and he ends up winning a cup elsewhere.
- walshyleafsfan

Meh.
As long as we get a good return and he wasnt run out of town. Why would people care?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 14 @ 9:12 AM ET
JVR is not getting moved. he is the only non rookie top 6 winger the leafs have
- Dozzer


Leafs might try and sign an RFA (Schwartz) or UFA to replace him after trading him for help on D.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:13 AM ET
How about the option to switch Kadri to the wing? He has a great cap hit for what he brings...
- PhilMcCracken

He hasnt worked on the wing yet....not to say he cant.
So far he's been better at center.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 14 @ 9:13 AM ET
and here I though the Leafs signing Kadri to a 6 year deal might kill the trade stuff
- senstroll



Too logical.
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