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Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:32 AM ET
So trade Bozak for 5th rounder or trade Kadri for a solid D man

Hmmm, 1 helps us 1 doesn't.

Stammer
Matthews
Nylander

That's why he's talking about moving Kadri


I Like Kadri but if he's going to be used sparingly then why would we keep him?

- Garnie


Kadri will be the number one C to start the season... IF the leafs are able to land stamkos then kadri slides down to number 2

matthews, as good as he is, wont be tossed into the fire in season 1 before he proves he can handle it
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jun 14 @ 8:33 AM ET
Grabovski to Ducks e4.2
- TheMussel


No need to get Lucas going this morning.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:33 AM ET

- AdamFrench





Guy looks like Kessel

Clerk wouldn't give him his hotdog
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jun 14 @ 8:34 AM ET
We can hire any clown to run Marchand

BRING UP THE CLUNE for those games

- Garnie



The need to sign Clune first.
Matt Martin might be a choice for the Leafs come this July.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:35 AM ET
Kadri will be the number one C to start the season... IF the leafs are able to land stamkos then kadri slides down to number 2

matthews, as good as he is, wont be tossed into the fire in season 1 before he proves he can handle it

- Dozzer



For sure - more the season after I'm thinking - if Matthews is as good as they say he is it may be sooner.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 8:37 AM ET
For sure - more the season after I'm thinking - if Matthews is as good as they say he is it may be sooner.
- Garnie


i am more than okay with kadri being a third line C as the league seems to be shifting to 3 scoring lines and 1 checking line

look at kessel for instance... line 3... and everybody went ape poop over his production in these playoffs

i still like a komarov kadri soshnikov checking line... all three players play a tough, pest like game and they can still put the puck in the net
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:38 AM ET
You move Kadri to the wing. Players will go down with injuries. That's how we got Holland for a 2nd rnd pick.
- zazzle


If Stamkos comes to TO, Kadri will be the #2 C for the season and Matthews #3, with Nylander sliding to the wing.

If no Stamkos, Kadri will be #1C, Nylander #2 and Matthews #3.

2017 - 2018 season will be different.

Edit: Late
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 8:40 AM ET
and here I though the Leafs signing Kadri to a 6 year deal might kill the trade stuff
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 8:40 AM ET
If Stamkos comes to TO, Kadri will be the #2 C for the season and Matthews #3, with Nylander sliding to the wing.

If no Stamkos, Kadri will be #1C, Nylander #2 and Matthews #3.

2017 - 2018 season will be different.

- vermie22


i smile when people post their projected lineups and line one is JVR Matthews and Marner

there is 0 chance Babcock builds his top line using two 19 year old rookies

maybe in a year or two sure... but not this season
Dozzer
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Jun 14 @ 8:41 AM ET
and here I though the Leafs signing Kadri to a 6 year deal might kill the trade stuff
- senstroll


not only signed... but to a cap friendly deal

when he 28-29 years old that contract will be sweet
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 14 @ 8:42 AM ET
i smile when people post their projected lineups and line one is JVR Matthews and Marner

there is 0 chance Babcock builds his top line using two 19 year old rookies

maybe in a year or two sure... but not this season

- Dozzer


The lines will be in a blender all season long, but yeah, rookies will play less than top line minutes for sure.
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:43 AM ET
i am more than okay with kadri being a third line C as the league seems to be shifting to 3 scoring lines and 1 checking line

look at kessel for instance... line 3... and everybody went ape poop over his production in these playoffs

i still like a komarov kadri soshnikov checking line... all three players play a tough, pest like game and they can still put the puck in the net

- Dozzer



I would slot Brown in over Soshnikov, I think he has a more complete game and better vision. The last Leafs game he played where he got 3 points, him and Kadri were showing some great chemistry, something that has been somewhat difficult for kadri to find in his years as a Leaf.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 14 @ 8:45 AM ET
You move Kadri to the wing. Players will go down with injuries. That's why we got Holland for a 2nd rnd pick.
- zazzle


Exactly my thought . He'll be on 2nd line wing, especially if JVR gets moved.

Marner, Nylander, Kadri on wing. Stamkos and Matthews C.
Bozak third line with Komarov and Soshnikov.
If JVR stays, he'll be the 4th winger for top 2 lines.
If he is traded (for a top pairing d or a legitimate starting goalie) then Leafs would have to fill the position (or use Lupul/Michalek/Hyman/Brown).
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 8:46 AM ET
The lines will be in a blender all season long, but yeah, rookies will play less than top line minutes for sure.
- TheMussel


i can see a someone like nylander being moved up to play the wing on a line with JVR and Kadri

(i am basing this on the fact that the leafs do not have stamkos at this point of course)

matthews penciled in as 2C but given wingers with some experience (like komarov)

marner... i can see him playing more sheltered minutes on a 3rd line with someone like bozak, because if marner's play making ability translates to the NHL it will inflate Bozak's stats (as a 3rd line they will face more secondary defenses) which would allow the leafs to move him more easily
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 8:46 AM ET
not only signed... but to a cap friendly deal

when he 28-29 years old that contract will be sweet

- Dozzer


gotta move him...
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 8:47 AM ET
Exactly my thought . He'll be on 2nd line wing, especially if JVR gets moved.

Marner, Nylander, Kadri on wing. Stamkos and Matthews C.
Bozak third line with Komarov and Soshnikov.
If JVR stays, he'll be the 4th winger for top 2 lines.
If he is traded (for a top pairing d or a legitimate starting goalie) then Leafs would have to fill the position (or use Lupul/Michalek/Hyman/Brown).

- MaximusAurelius


JVR is not getting moved. he is the only non rookie top 6 winger the leafs have
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 8:48 AM ET
gotta move him...
- senstroll


that would be a move the leafs of years past would make... trade a guy just as he is entering his prime
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:53 AM ET
gotta move him...
- senstroll



Never said that

Just possibilities if we have 3 better C's but thanks for playing
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 8:54 AM ET
Never said that

Just possibilities if we have 3 better C's but thanks for playing

- Garnie


nylander will be on the wing this year... he only was give the C duties due to lack of options last year
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:54 AM ET
Kadri will be the number one C to start the season... IF the leafs are able to land stamkos then kadri slides down to number 2

matthews, as good as he is, wont be tossed into the fire in season 1 before he proves he can handle it

- Dozzer

Bozak could easily handle that as well.
Dozzer
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Toronto Maple Leafs
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Jun 14 @ 8:56 AM ET
Bozak could easily handle that as well.
- Fakepartofme


1C?

handle it, yes. its becoming pretty obvious that he isnt part of the future plans tho... like phaneuf he will be used in situations that will boost his stats so LouLams can move him
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
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Jun 14 @ 8:56 AM ET
So trade Bozak for 5th rounder or trade Kadri for a solid D man

Hmmm, 1 helps us 1 doesn't.

Stammer
Matthews
Nylander

That's why he's talking about moving Kadri


I Like Kadri but if he's going to be used sparingly then why would we keep him?

- Garnie

He's got a good contract.
Would be good to keep. But people have to realize, if we sign stammer, we have needs elsewhere. Who would bring back more? Bozak or Kadri?
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:57 AM ET
nylander will be on the wing this year... he only was give the C duties due to lack of options last year
- Dozzer

Yeah.. theres no way they move Kadri to wing.. He plays best at centre.
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:57 AM ET
nylander will be on the wing this year... he only was give the C duties due to lack of options last year
- Dozzer


I also would like to see how he handles that move if it happens. Get a sense of his character and maturity.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:58 AM ET
1C?

handle it, yes. its becoming pretty obvious that he isnt part of the future plans tho... like phaneuf he will be used in situations that will boost his stats so LouLams can move him

- Dozzer

We'll see.
Like I said above, like to keep Kadri, but if we sign stammer....we'll get a better return for Kadri.
However, If we sign stammer, I believe they will keep both for a little while.
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