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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: The Stamkos Crossroads, Carlyle Back To The Ducks & The Convo
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PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 14 @ 7:30 AM ET
If I were Tampa, I would throw in a couple of prospects and a pick or two to get rid of Callahan and Carle's contracts. The cost may be high but losing your captain and premiere player for nothing seems absurd to me. Stammer is worth a first and then some. Asset management.
Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 14 @ 7:38 AM ET
Mike why do dislike Kadri so much..
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 14 @ 7:39 AM ET
Carlyle back to the ducks...is this real life?

Ducks have a much better team than the leafs so he may not have as dramatic an effect, or if he manages to change up is style..still, its a bad direction they went imo.

Wonder is Nonis had anything to do with it.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 14 @ 7:42 AM ET
Mike why do dislike Kadri so much..
- Popcorn Kid




2 guys to choose from. One is younger and much much better, they make the same amount of money....... Let's keep the other one.


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 7:51 AM ET
Mike why do dislike Kadri so much..
- Popcorn Kid


So trade Bozak for 5th rounder or trade Kadri for a solid D man

Hmmm, 1 helps us 1 doesn't.

Stammer
Matthews
Nylander

That's why he's talking about moving Kadri


I Like Kadri but if he's going to be used sparingly then why would we keep him?





spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:55 AM ET
If I were Tampa, I would throw in a couple of prospects and a pick or two to get rid of Callahan and Carle's contracts. The cost may be high but losing your captain and premiere player for nothing seems absurd to me. Stammer is worth a first and then some. Asset management.
- PhilMcCracken


But, I think this indicates just how tough it is going to be for Tampa going forward. They have some great young players and several options can probably work. Let's say they offer Callahan and Drouin to Buffalo for the 7th pick. They make the salary cap problem go away for at least a year, they are able to sign Stamkos. But, the problem just gets moved to next year where they will need to pay Hedman.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:00 AM ET
So trade Bozak for 5th rounder or trade Kadri for a solid D man

Hmmm, 1 helps us 1 doesn't.

Stammer
Matthews
Nylander

That's why he's talking about moving Kadri


I Like Kadri but if he's going to be used sparingly then why would we keep him?

- Garnie


Kari is the one guy that I would be nervous about trading. If he matches some maturity with his skill set, he can be a very good asset. Why deal him now when his his market value would be lower than fair.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 14 @ 8:01 AM ET
So trade Bozak for 5th rounder or trade Kadri for a solid D man

Hmmm, 1 helps us 1 doesn't.

Stammer
Matthews
Nylander

That's why he's talking about moving Kadri


I Like Kadri but if he's going to be used sparingly then why would we keep him?

- Garnie



He's not.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jun 14 @ 8:01 AM ET
Babcock:

"Those big pieces that fans and media fantasize about are usually added when your team is ready. Not when your team is growing. We’re in the growing phase… We’re one year into the process. We gotta keep that going. We need to have another huge year in the development process. The draft selection process, the signing process to get where we want to go."
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 14 @ 8:04 AM ET
Babcock:

"Those big pieces that fans and media fantasize about are usually added when your team is ready. Not when your team is growing. We’re in the growing phase… We’re one year into the process. We gotta keep that going. We need to have another huge year in the development process. The draft selection process, the signing process to get where we want to go."

- ClarksonDavid




Shanahan: if those big peices come available and we think they can help it won't stop us from trying to sign them.


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:09 AM ET
He's not.
- burn



Not next year i don't think either - but if Matthews is the real deal and Kadri can bring back a good return - you have to think they may go for it - unless they think Nylanders a bust I guess.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:12 AM ET
Kari is the one guy that I would be nervous about trading. If he matches some maturity with his skill set, he can be a very good asset. Why deal him now when his his market value would be lower than fair.
- spatso



I never said trade him for lower than fair - you trade him for the right piece ( if they even trade him )

The point was I can see people thinking he could be traded when we are drafting and signing better C's
razr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: [quote=hscesq] :lol: :lol: :lol: [/quote]:lol: :lol: :lol: -WaterBoy
Joined: 07.20.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:12 AM ET
"Today @ 2:37 AM ET
I think that they attempt to trade for his rights. I know the whole "why buy the cow when you get the milk for free" thing. I feel that Stamkos is on his way out for a variety of reasons. He is their captain & he accomplished a lot in TB tho. I think that it's a classy move for both organizations to try to work out some sort of reasonable deal for his rights. Especially if everyone is sure that a contract with the Leafs is inevitable. It will take the heat off of Stamkos a bit too. He'll look less like he abandoned the Lightning fans & team if a trade is worked out as opposed to him just walking as a free agent."

What all star captain would ever do that to their team? ?? Cough (Mats)

- marklaprise

Wrong. Leafs did not offer him a contract
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 14 @ 8:15 AM ET
Not next year i don't think either - but if Matthews is the real deal and Kadri can bring back a good return - you have to think they may go for it - unless they think Nylanders a bust I guess.
- Garnie




FOr years we've heard center depth, strength down the middle wins......and now we want to go away from that?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 14 @ 8:17 AM ET
Carlyle back to the ducks...is this real life?

Ducks have a much better team than the leafs so he may not have as dramatic an effect, or if he manages to change up is style..still, its a bad direction they went imo.

Wonder is Nonis had anything to do with it.

- senstroll


Grabovski to Ducks e4.2
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:19 AM ET
So trade Bozak for 5th rounder or trade Kadri for a solid D man

Hmmm, 1 helps us 1 doesn't.

Stammer
Matthews
Nylander

That's why he's talking about moving Kadri


I Like Kadri but if he's going to be used sparingly then why would we keep him?

- Garnie



This is why you keep him:

https://cdn.streamable.co...video/mp4-mobile/v05e.mp4

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:20 AM ET
FOr years we've heard center depth, strength down the middle wins......and now we want to go away from that?
- burn



Well if he has to be #4 c? I don't see it but possible.

Maybe he moves to wing and plays C when injuries happen?

Just looking at options

D and G's also help win cups

You're not related to "the dream" are you?



TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 14 @ 8:21 AM ET
So trade Bozak for 5th rounder or trade Kadri for a solid D man

Hmmm, 1 helps us 1 doesn't.

Stammer
Matthews
Nylander

That's why he's talking about moving Kadri


I Like Kadri but if he's going to be used sparingly then why would we keep him?

- Garnie


I dunno about Nylander in the middle. That was before the lottery. I think he becomes a career winger starting 2016 unless he doesn't make the Leafs out of camp.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:23 AM ET
This is why you keep him:

https://cdn.streamable.co...video/mp4-mobile/v05e.mp4


- vermie22



We can hire any clown to run Marchand

BRING UP THE CLUNE for those games
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 14 @ 8:23 AM ET
Well if he has to be #4 c? I don't see it but possible.

Maybe he moves to wing and plays C when injuries happen?

Just looking at options

D and G's also help win cups

You're not related to "the dream" are you?

- Garnie



Why does he go to the 4th line?

Why would I be related to the dream? I'm just interested in my team having good players.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:24 AM ET
I dunno about Nylander in the middle. That was before the lottery. I think he becomes a career winger starting 2016 unless he doesn't make the Leafs out of camp.
- TheMussel



I agree if we don't have 3 better C's we don't trade him.
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:25 AM ET
We can hire any clown to run Marchand

BRING UP THE CLUNE for those games

- Garnie





I would go with both, at least one of them will pot 50+ pts - if he has been working on his shot that is.

but I can seriously watch that clip all day long, and not stop smiling while watching it.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 14 @ 8:30 AM ET
Keeping Stamkos is going to be very hard for Tampa. It means having to move at least one big salary this year (Callahan or Carle) and moving another big salary next summer in order to provide contract space for Hedman. In addition, they have some really good players also looking for contracts this year.

The easiest solution for Tampa is simply to let Stamkos go. The best solution may be to deal him for the best return under the circumstances.

Florida has dumped enough salary to suggest they may have the inside position on Stamkos. They have moved Gudbranson to Vancouver and Savard (LTIR). Intrigued by the rumour that Florida will offer up Huberdeau for rights to negotiate with Stamkos. If Florida gets the negotiation rights they know they can sign him. Nobody should discount the financial impact of being able to offer a contract that us free from state income tax.

- spatso

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 14 @ 8:31 AM ET


I would go with both, at least one of them will pot 50+ pts - if he has been working on his shot that is.

but I can seriously watch that clip all day long, and not stop smiling while watching it.

- vermie22




It all depends who we sign and draft - also it will depend on Nylander being better than Kadri which I'm not sure will happen anyways.



zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jun 14 @ 8:31 AM ET
FOr years we've heard center depth, strength down the middle wins......and now we want to go away from that?
- burn


You move Kadri to the wing. Players will go down with injuries. That's why we got Holland for a 2nd rnd pick.
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