Love him?
Who said this.
- Fakepartofme

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...he-way-nazem-kadri-plays/

Love him?
Who said this.
- Fakepartofme

The 6 year deal?

Agreed - it is totally unbelievable - and shows a lack of hockey knowledge. What is important to note is that Stamkos is by a wide margin the best free agent center available EVER since free agency began in 1995 - in the early days we were discussing 32-40 year old free agents. Here is a 26 year old top shelf center - available for fair market value - Every team that has the cap space should be interested - Big time.
- winsix

Gretzky in '96?

Really? My post didn't reek of sarcasm?

- the_eye

Can never be too sure on hockeybuzz...

He's been on a steady decline since winning the cup: I think he missed the playoffs 8 out of 9 years coaching quality Ducks teams.

He's really not a good coach; Burke and Carlyle could've been replaced with Mike Milbury and Dallas Eakins and still won the cup with that stacked team in '07.
- gravyface

Really?
Maybe try some facts.
2007/08 -47 -27 - 8 playoffs
2008/09 – 42- 33 – 7 playoffs
2009/10 – 39 – 32 – 11 no playoffs – first time in his tenure
2010/11 – 47 – 30 – 5 playoffs
2011/12 fired 7- 13 - 4

I think he missed the playoffs once with the ducks.
So you're saying that coaching had nothing to do with them winning the cup...but it had everything to do with not winning another....or losing?
Ah I see.
sure.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/lou-lamoriello-im-a-fan-of-the-way-nazem-kadri-plays/
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Pumping his tires.
Just like he did phaneufs.

I wouldnt expect anything else.

God dammit folks,

Didn't we have enough of the stupid Carlyle debate back when he was fired?

(frank)ing give it a rest

The 6 year deal?
- WingmanWillie

That shows smart cap management and that they like him.
But to say they all love him...is a bit much.

They like his play publicly.

That shows smart cap management and that they like him.
But to say they all love him...is a bit much.

They like his play publicly.
- Fakepartofme

He's a hard nosed gritty centre, what's not to love?

Really?
Maybe try some facts.
2007/08 -47 -27 - 8 playoffs
2008/09 – 42- 33 – 7 playoffs
2009/10 – 39 – 32 – 11 no playoffs – first time in his tenure
2010/11 – 47 – 30 – 5 playoffs
2011/12 fired 7- 13 - 4

I think he missed the playoffs once with the ducks.
So you're saying that coaching had nothing to do with them winning the cup...but it had everything to do with not winning another....or losing?
Ah I see.
sure.


- Fakepartofme

Sorry, it was first round losses 8 of 9 years.

I see you're upset, so carry on with your RC love affair, but maybe in private ok? 99.999% of us on here don't recall RC's tenure in Toronto so fondly.

He's a hard nosed gritty centre, what's not to love?
- the_eye

His diving.
The only thing I dont like about him.

Well his whining too....but he's stop that.

Pumping his tires.
Just like he did phaneufs.

I wouldnt expect anything else.
- Fakepartofme

Pretty sure the leafs put their money where their mouth is, re: kadri.

Sorry, it was first round losses 8 of 9 years.

I see you're upset, so carry on with your RC love affair, but maybe in private ok? 99.999% of us on here don't recall RC's tenure in Toronto so fondly.
- gravyface

he franken sucked.

On a side note, I'm a pretty big fan of Garth's blog headline right now

His diving.
The only thing I dont like about him.

Well his whining too....but he's stop that.
- Fakepartofme

He's a pretty good diver... draws a lot of penalty's, you should give it a try and learn to like that part of his game.

Sorry, it was first round losses 8 of 9 years.

I see you're upset, so carry on with your RC love affair, but maybe in private ok? 99.999% of us on here don't recall RC's tenure in Toronto so fondly.
- gravyface

Ya big difference.

No love affair bud, I was never a fan his or his hiring. But the bs leafs fans shoot his way is not always warranted.

Besides, he took a crappy leaf team to the playoffs.....where the players choked...not him.

His diving.
The only thing I dont like about him.

Well his whining too....but he's stop that.
- Fakepartofme

I'm willing to bet that Babcock loves the power plays he creates.

That shows smart cap management and that they like him.
But to say they all love him...is a bit much.

They like his play publicly.
- Fakepartofme

Pumping his tires then immediately signing him to a 6 year deal

He's a pretty good diver... draws a lot of penalty's, you should give it a try and learn to like that part of his game.
- orienbrady22

No.
I dont like divers.
Its why I dont watch soccer....but really enjoy the highlights.

To be fair, there is anecdotal evidence that the shot differential thing was at least partly "intentional" or at least a known by-product of the system.

Carlyle seemed to try to coach a counter-attack style rather than a possession style. He is on record talking about his goalies being expected to stop a lot of shots from the outside.

He did have some success with a pretty bad roster and there was a LARGE sample size where the Leafs results whether they were on the good or bad side of Corsi were running counter to the Advanced Stats.

I didn't like the style the Leafs were playing but this a case where Corsi may be an effect and not necessarily the cause of the Leafs problems. The cause of the Leafs problems in this case could also very well be due to a horrible culture and attitude. When your best player doesn't appear to have any work ethic, eventually the whole thing is going to go south. (and I am big Kessel fan )

Put Kessel on a team where there is already multiple established leaders and his work ethic isntt going to drag down the whole team. Kessel wasn't the only guilty party here. JVR also pulled a complete no-show during the collapse.
- Aetherial

ok so you think he is a good coach?

i think he is bottom 2 or 3 in the NHL... we can move on

Pumping his tires then immediately signing him to a 6 year deal
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Ya he's a good player and they got him on a good deal.

Really?
Maybe try some facts.
2007/08 -47 -27 - 8 playoffs
2008/09 – 42- 33 – 7 playoffs
2009/10 – 39 – 32 – 11 no playoffs – first time in his tenure
2010/11 – 47 – 30 – 5 playoffs
2011/12 fired 7- 13 - 4

I think he missed the playoffs once with the ducks.
So you're saying that coaching had nothing to do with them winning the cup...but it had everything to do with not winning another....or losing?
Ah I see.
sure.


- Fakepartofme

if you have a choice of BB or RC who is your choice to coach?

I'm willing to bet that Babcock loves the power plays he creates.
- the_eye

it's a huge asset imo.

Do the Leafs get a compensation pick for Carlyle?
Also, MIB, Kadri isn't going anywhere.

if you have a choice of BB or RC who is your choice to coach?
- senstroll

MB