who is the other proven great C?
- drexel

Your mom, in the middle of my bukkake party.

You're more handsome and smart than Howard
- razr

Really it is just a matter of being enormously large, in the crotchal area.




















no, it isn't.

It's hard to believe anyone is against signing a 26 year old top 10 player in the league while it costs us nothing but salary dollars.

Babcock is here for 7 more years, if you don't think the window of opportunity is in that 7 years, I don't know to tell you.

agree that Howard has been weak the past two seasons.

that does not equate with Bernier being better.

how many wins does Benier have during that time IN THE NHL?
- BorjeFan4Ever

not as many as complaints you have made about him even though the wives perished months ago

Let the players pick the coach
- senstroll

I love how RC had sh!t to work with, but still got the leafs to playoffs.
the leafs had a playoff spot until he was fired his last here.

But people believe RC is a bad coach.

LOL oh leafers.

He simply didnt work out here.
Like most players and coaches over the past 15 years or more.

Vegas Baby!

Teams are only allowed to protect one goalie for expansion, and teams that have two NHL caliber goalies stand to lose one to Las Vegas for nothing if they do not trade those assets first. Las Vegas is expected to choose three goalies.
- winsix

Right. But it takes two to tango so who are these teams that are going to be looking to acquire a goalie at the TD? Remember ALL teams can only protect one. I think the goalie shuffle happens this summer not at the TD. Teams need to get their work done now.

Edit: There's a really good article on a competing site setting out each teams situation.

I love how RC had sh!t to work with, but still got the leafs to playoffs.
the leafs had a playoff spot until he was fired his last here.

But people believe RC is a bad coach.

LOL oh leafers.

He simply didnt work out here.
Like most players and coaches over the past 15 years or more.
- Fakepartofme

he didn't adapt what so ever, he is a horrible coach and Anaheim just made a huge mistake.

NO TIMEOUT GAME 7 PLAYOFFS 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 5-4

Your right, that's great coaching!! pay him millions!! cmon!!

The Stamkos concerns seem a bit much. This isn't David Clarkson. If the Leafs go after him and if they actually manage to sign him (which is hardly a given here), I think it's fine. You create incredible insulation for Matthews and open the door to move other guys for more pieces.

Just like with winning the lotto for Matthews, the rebuild isn't stopping or radically changing. Gather picks, draft well, develop well, and assemble a roster that can compete. With or without Stamkos I'd expect a step forward to 5-8th last. Not huge, but a good move forward. Picking top 3 probably won't happen again, but good drafting will keep getting us pieces we can use no matter what.

Your mom, in the middle of my bukkake party.
- gravyface

I too agree that Matthews wont be that dominant in year one...but I think Kadri stronger than that

he didn't adapt what so ever, he is a horrible coach and Anaheim just made a huge mistake.

NO TIMEOUT GAME 7 PLAYOFFS 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, 4-4, 5-4

Your right, that's great coaching!! pay him millions!! cmon!!
- Lucas.Neilson

Yup
the only coach to have made a mistake.
Brilliant.
It simply was sh!tty team

I too agree that Matthews wont be that dominant in year one...but I think Kadri stronger than that
- drexel

He was the best player on team USA, the kid already has it.
Problem could be wingers to play with him.

Nobody needs 2 great centers.
- the_eye

Well at the moment, it would only be one.
Matthews has yet to play an NHL game

I love how RC had sh!t to work with, but still got the leafs to playoffs.
the leafs had a playoff spot until he was fired his last here.

But people believe RC is a bad coach.

LOL oh leafers.

He simply didnt work out here.
Like most players and coaches over the past 15 years or more.
- Fakepartofme

He's been on a steady decline since winning the cup: I think he missed the playoffs 8 out of 9 years coaching quality Ducks teams.

He's really not a good coach; Burke and Carlyle could've been replaced with Mike Milbury and Dallas Eakins and still won the cup with that stacked team in '07.

Right. But it takes two to tango so who are these teams that are going to be looking to acquire a goalie at the TD? Remember ALL teams can only protect one. I think the goalie shuffle happens this summer not at the TD. Teams need to get their work done now.

Edit: There's a really good article on a competing site setting out each teams situation.
- The Law

Can you pm the site please?

Yup
the only coach to have made a mistake.
Brilliant.
It simply was sh!tty team
- Fakepartofme

You must have missed it, It was Reimers fault.

I love how RC had sh!t to work with, but still got the leafs to playoffs.
the leafs had a playoff spot until he was fired his last here.

But people believe RC is a bad coach.

LOL oh leafers.

He simply didnt work out here.
Like most players and coaches over the past 15 years or more.
- Fakepartofme

I watched the games as well... the leafs were garbage...he had more to work with than Babcock this season and the team was at least watchable and didnt get their teeth kicked in every game like Randy

you remember the games right? the ice was tilted every game...he is a bad coach no matter how you look at it. historically bad shot differentials, and it wasn't just because Kessel didnt back check sometimes

Wow, the Yost breakdown of Dustin Brown's numbers really paints an ugly picture of his performance and that contract.

On the other hand, I could have looked at a couple old-school numbers, POINTS, SALARY, and TERM and summed he whole thing up by saying...

Dustin Brown is scheduled to cost 5.75 against the cap for 6 years and hasn't scored over 30 points for the past 5 years.

That might be the ugliest contract in the league right now.

Nobody needs 2 great centers.
- the_eye

are you serious?

08 - Datsyuk, Zetterberg
09 - Crosby, Malkin
10 - Toews, Bolland*
11 - Begeron, Krejci
12 - Kopitar, Carter, Richards
13 - Toews
14 - Kopitar, Carter
15 - Toews
16 - Crosby, Malkin

I mean unless you're the Hawks, you pretty much need some great to elite centers

It's hard to believe anyone is against signing a 26 year old top 10 player in the league while it costs us nothing but salary dollars.

Babcock is here for 7 more years, if you don't think the window of opportunity is in that 7 years, I don't know to tell you.
- Lucas.Neilson

Agreed - it is totally unbelievable - and shows a lack of hockey knowledge. What is important to note is that Stamkos is by a wide margin the best free agent center available EVER since free agency began in 1995 - in the early days we were discussing 32-40 year old free agents. Here is a 26 year old top shelf center - available for fair market value - Every team that has the cap space should be interested - Big time.

Wow, the Yost breakdown of Dustin Brown's numbers really paints an ugly picture of his performance and that contract.

On the other hand, I could have looked at a couple old-school numbers ... POINTS, SALARY, and TERM and summed he whole thing up by saying...

Dustin Brown is scheduled to cost 5.75 against the cap for 6 years and hasn't scored over 30 points for the past 5 years.

That might be the ugliest contract in the league right now.
- Aetherial

Wow. Talk about making complicated dashboards to tell a story that can be just as easily surmised by looking him up on hockeydb.

I hate people who use data like that.

I watched the games as well... the leafs were garbage...he had more to work with than Babcock this season and the team was at least watchable and didnt get their teeth kicked in every game like Randy

you remember the games right? the ice was tilted every game...he is a bad coach no matter how you look at it. historically bad shot differentials, and it wasn't just because Kessel didnt back check sometimes
- senstroll

To be fair, there is anecdotal evidence that the shot differential thing was at least partly "intentional" or at least a known by-product of the system.

Carlyle seemed to try to coach a counter-attack style rather than a possession style. He is on record talking about his goalies being expected to stop a lot of shots from the outside.

He did have some success with a pretty bad roster and there was a LARGE sample size where the Leafs results whether they were on the good or bad side of Corsi were running counter to the Advanced Stats.

I didn't like the style the Leafs were playing but this a case where Corsi may be an effect and not necessarily the cause of the Leafs problems. The cause of the Leafs problems in this case could also very well be due to a horrible culture and attitude. When your best player doesn't appear to have any work ethic, eventually the whole thing is going to go south. (and I am big Kessel fan )

Put Kessel on a team where there is already multiple established leaders and his work ethic isntt going to drag down the whole team. Kessel wasn't the only guilty party here. JVR also pulled a complete no-show during the collapse.

are you serious?

08 - Datsyuk, Zetterberg
09 - Crosby, Malkin
10 - Toews, Bolland*
11 - Begeron, Krejci
12 - Kopitar, Carter, Richards
13 - Toews
14 - Kopitar, Carter
15 - Toews
16 - Crosby, Malkin

I mean unless you're the Hawks, you pretty much need some great to elite centers
- DeflatedPucks

are you serious?

08 - Datsyuk, Zetterberg
09 - Crosby, Malkin
10 - Toews, Bolland*
11 - Begeron, Krejci
12 - Kopitar, Carter, Richards
13 - Toews
14 - Kopitar, Carter
15 - Toews
16 - Crosby, Malkin

I mean unless you're the Hawks, you pretty much need some great to elite centers
- DeflatedPucks

Really? My post didn't reek of sarcasm?

The Stamkos concerns seem a bit much. This isn't David Clarkson. If the Leafs go after him and if they actually manage to sign him (which is hardly a given here), I think it's fine. You create incredible insulation for Matthews and open the door to move other guys for more pieces.

Just like with winning the lotto for Matthews, the rebuild isn't stopping or radically changing. Gather picks, draft well, develop well, and assemble a roster that can compete. With or without Stamkos I'd expect a step forward to 5-8th last. Not huge, but a good move forward. Picking top 3 probably won't happen again, but good drafting will keep getting us pieces we can use no matter what.
- FlareKnight

Agreed.

Rolling the dice for a top 3 pick again next year carries a lot of uncertainty. If stamkos doesn’t sign here, then we go down that road.