Green is probably the Warriors most important player in this series
- PhillySportsGuy

if only the nba didn't give into the cry baby of the NBA

if only draymond didn't receive a bs suspension
- 2Real

Tell him to stop punching and kicking people in the Richard

Forever my bae.
- PhillySportsGuy

Looking at the Flyers, I think Hextall is open to analytics. I think Hakstol is open to analytics. I have about as much comfort in them using everything at hand to get better as any tandem in the NHL. But their department does seem....a bit weak.

You surely know more than me about the wide world of analytics, though I consider myself versed enough in hockey stuff, but the only way these teams can reach that next level is to bring on those cutting edge statistical people. It feels like we are entering a point in the NHL at least, where EVERY team feels like they are on an equal playing field. Well, the good teams lol. I don't give a poop what Colorado does. There is almost no advantage anymore on that front, or shortly there will be none. Data crunching =/= data innovation. That's the next frontier. Teams like Arizona or Florida seem like they may be getting the jump.

if only draymond didn't receive a bs suspension
- 2Real

i do think it's not a coincidence that this is the best cleveland has looked offensively in this series.

it may end up costing them this game but i cant see it costing them the series.

i know curry gets all of the publicity but thompson is so pretty to watch play its sickening.

Tell him to stop punching and kicking people in the Richard
- PhillySportsGuy

oh so it's ok for leloser to walk over people?

RANDY CARLYLE to be named next Ducks coach!

Way to (frank) up one of my favorite Western teams, Murray. All those great players....what a pity.
- Mononoke

Priceless. Time to target all their smaller, non-truculent players.

So you'd only go 1 year with Gudas this offseason?
- PhillySportsGuy

No, I'd go three. But if he wasn't playing up to the deal, expose him to the expansion draft and use the slot to protect MDZ or Morin.

0% chance GS would lose at home in a game 7 unless an injury occurred
- PhillySportsGuy

Draymond is going to punch himself in the groin while sleeping the night before Game 7.

Green is probably the Warriors most important player in this series
- PhillySportsGuy

i can see that.

kyrie is having his way inside tonight in his absence.

i can see that.

kyrie is having his way inside tonight in his absence.
- stayinthefnnet

that wasn't a foul on thompson

Priceless. Time to target all their smaller, non-truculent players.
- Tomahawk

I'm almost happy Randy is back in the league. It isn't my team. So it's going to be entertaining as (frank)

Looking at the Flyers, I think Hextall is open to analytics. I think Hakstol is open to analytics. I have about as much comfort in them using everything at hand to get better as any tandem in the NHL. But their department does seem....a bit weak.

You surely know more than me about the wide world of analytics, though I consider versed enough in hockey stuff, but the only way these teams can reach that next level is to bring on those cutting edge statistical people. It feels like we are entering a point in the NHL at least, where EVERY team feels like they are on an equal playing field. Well, the good teams lol. I don't give a poop what Colorado does. There is almost no advantage anymore on that front, or shortly there will be none. Data crunching =/= data innovation. That's the next frontier. Teams like Arizona or Florida seem like they are trending in that direction.
- Mononoke

Agreed. THere's a lot more you can do with what we have. There will never be one universal number that defines a player. The NBA has things like WARP, RPM and PER, but even those are flawed. We'll eventually come up with better ways to represent specific aspects. Instead of using goals or shooting percentage to find the best shooters, we'll have a more detailed metric like shooting efficiency.

oh so it's ok for leloser to walk over people?
- 2Real

He got a technical for it. Draymond is a chronic cock knocker

Priceless. Time to target all their smaller, non-truculent players.
- Tomahawk

Can't wait for him to hate Hampus because he doesn't hit enough

that wasn't a foul on thompson
- 2Real

harrison barnes is a nifty swing player. but if hes playing the 5 irving is going to be able to finish near the rim.

Agreed. THere's a lot more you can do with what we have. There will never be one universal number that defines a player. The NBA has things like WARP, RPM and PER, but even those are flawed. We'll eventually come up with better ways to represent specific aspects. Instead of using goals or shooting percentage to find the best shooters, we'll have a more detailed metric like shooting efficiency.
- PhillySportsGuy

The bottom line is, any tool that has potential should be considered. Balancing the tools is the key. Shot based metrics are no more misleading than using traditional stats. Everything is a piece of the pie. Scout the guy, watch his games, look at the traditional numbers, look at the advanced numbers.

At the very least, the advanced stats should carry as much weight as a scout saying, "He's a big SOB who will cross check a bastard across the teeth!"

i can see that.

kyrie is having his way inside tonight in his absence.
- stayinthefnnet

They replaced him with Livingston. They're literally playing a 4 guard lineup right now with a small forward.

harrison barnes is a nifty swing player. but if hes playing the 5 irving is going to be able to finish near the rim.
- stayinthefnnet

barnes is overrated i hope the warriorslet him walk for durant

The bottom line is, any tool that has potential should be considered. Balancing the tools is the key. Shot based metrics are no more misleading than using traditional stats. Everything is a piece of the pie. Scout the guy, watch his games, look at the traditional numbers, look at the advanced numbers.

At the very least, the advanced stats should carry as much weight as a scout saying, "He's a big SOB who will cross check a bastard across the teeth!"
- Jsaquella

i think thats about as good of a way as ive seen it put. i dont know why people feel the need to pull so hard in either direction.

The bottom line is, any tool that has potential should be considered. Balancing the tools is the key. Shot based metrics are no more misleading than using traditional stats. Everything is a piece of the pie. Scout the guy, watch his games, look at the traditional numbers, look at the advanced numbers.

At the very least, the advanced stats should carry as much weight as a scout saying, "He's a big SOB who will cross check a bastard across the teeth!"
- Jsaquella

I read this in a southern accent even though there are likely no scouts with a southern accent

They replaced him with Livingston. They're literally playing a 4 guard lineup right now with a small forward.
- PhillySportsGuy

yeah. thats tough to sustain long term. and the trickle down effect is not having livingston to fill his normal role off of the bench.

barnes is overrated i hope the warriorslet him walk for durant
- 2Real

Is he the guy you hate? You hate Bogut too right?

barnes is overrated i hope the warriorslet him walk for durant
- 2Real

you'd know more than i would, but i didnt think barnes was that highly rated? i thought he was just a nice swing player, great as part of the team. but i didnt think it was understood that he was a stud in his own right.

wouldnt they need to make other changes as well to absorb durant besides simply just swapping out barnes?

do you think it would be worth it big picture overall? as ridiculously good as durant is, its at least worth examining if they'd just be better off sticking with what is working so well?

Is he the guy you hate? You hate Bogut too right?
- PhillySportsGuy

bogut is a big dumb cow that always gets hurt

you'd know more than i would, but i didnt think barnes was that highly rated? i thought he was just a nice swing player, great as part of the team. but i didnt think it was understood that he was a stud in his own right.

wouldnt they need to make other changes as well to absorb durant besides simply just swapping out barnes?

do you think it would be worth it big picture overall? as ridiculously good as durant is, its at least worth examining if they'd just be better off sticking with what is working so well?
- stayinthefnnet

barnes reportedly wants 20 mil a year minimum rather give durant 30 mil a year
it would be worth it in the big picture because that would give them a lot more size and another great scoring threat