That did not answer my question any way, shape, or form.

And no, they're both pretty bad.
- jmatchett383

No it didnt...I was just waiting a little bit to tell you that AppleTV isnt actually a TV at all. It is a device that connects your TV to wifi and provides an interface for streaming shows, pictures, music, etc from your phone or computer.

No it didnt...I was just waiting a little bit to tell you that AppleTV isnt actually a TV at all. It is a device that connects your TV to wifi and provides an interface for streaming shows, pictures, music, etc from your phone or computer.
- YuenglingJagr

And how is that better than a service like Netflix and other streaming services that don't require a several-hundred-dollar phone?

And I apologize for nothing thinking that a product called a TV was a TV. Silly me.

I was just waiting a little bit to tell you that AppleTV isnt actually a TV at all
- YuenglingJagr

Depends. How much more did you Apple TV cost as opposed to a regular TV with comparable specs?
- jmatchett383

AppleTV isn't a TV. It's a device you attach to your TV that gives you access to online content.

No it didnt...I was just waiting a little bit to tell you that AppleTV isnt actually a TV at all. It is a device that connects your TV to wifi and provides an interface for streaming shows, pictures, music, etc from your phone or computer.
- YuenglingJagr

Also, I just did a quick check, and Apple TVs are selling, at a glance, at more like $130, not $80. If you say you can find a deal on an Apple TV, I'm gonna assume you could also find a deal better than $200 on the converter you spoke of.

And how is that better than a service like Netflix and other streaming services that don't require a several-hundred-dollar phone?

And I apologize for nothing thinking that a product called a TV was a TV. Silly me.
- jmatchett383

AppleTV doesn't require an iPhone or any kind of phone at all. It is a stand alone device.

That's why I bought a hockeybuzzTV. I'll tell you though, the pop up commercials are brutal
- Mononoke

lol adblocker ftw (clicking off the nag screen quickly becomes second nature)

lol adblocker ftw (clicking off the nag screen quickly becomes second nature)
- Scoob

I turn adblocker off sometimes because they both suck, and I like a change of pace

Also, I just did a quick check, and Apple TVs are selling, at a glance, at more like $130, not $80. If you say you can find a deal on an Apple TV, I'm gonna assume you could also find a deal better than $200 on the converter you spoke of.
- jmatchett383

That is the latest version which includes a hard drive for storing files...i have the old version that i bought 5-6 years ago

iphone/ipod jacks have pretty much been replaced completely by bluetooth and wifi now anyway

Well, I'm also against companies trying to monopolize products. For instance: if company A can offer a superior product, but company B can offer a product that integrates with one of their other products, people with that other product will/may buy from company B simply because "it works with this other thing."

It's not a bad thing, and it's smart of the company. And if you do your due diligence and find that advantages of buying a lower-quality product is still better due to the integration factor, then great. But several people that I know (not a lot, but some) will buy iWhatever's because, "It's Apple, it's better," and need that brand-new iPhone 75 or whatever they're up to the day it comes out. I also know a few who bought iPads, even when they didn't have a reason to buy one, because, "It's Apple, it's got to be good."
- jmatchett383

I know people of that ilk, too.
I also know people of the frank Apple ilk.

Both types are closed-minded.

I recently purchased a 50" TCL Roku smart HD TV. Totally affordable - high quality and seamlessly integrated all of my online accounts that I used to stream on my laptop (Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, etc.)

HBO smart TV channel is $15 bucks a month. Not sure it's worth that much.

AppleTV doesn't require an iPhone or any kind of phone at all. It is a stand alone device.
- Scoob

Then why should I get an Apple TV if my phone "happens to be an iphone?" Why would my phone make a difference if it's a stand-alone? And wasn't the basis of Apple TV product integration?

Please tell me, because I'm really not familiar with the Apple TV.

Also, I just did a quick check, and Apple TVs are selling, at a glance, at more like $130, not $80. If you say you can find a deal on an Apple TV, I'm gonna assume you could also find a deal better than $200 on the converter you spoke of.
- jmatchett383

I'm a devoted Mac user. Bought my Roku for 40 bucks.

I turn adblocker off sometimes because they both suck, and I like a change of pace
- Mononoke

iow, you miss the naked robot ads. lol

lol adblocker ftw (clicking off the nag screen quickly becomes second nature)
- Scoob

i used to use it...i actually only block youtube ads now...sites like this one i use enough and they wouldnt exist if they didnt make money so...its a small price to pay

Then why should I get an Apple TV if my phone "happens to be an iphone?" Why would my phone make a difference if it's a stand-alone? And wasn't the basis of Apple TV product integration?

Please tell me, because I'm really not familiar with the Apple TV.
- jmatchett383

Because you can integrate them easily and then play content that is on your iPhone right onto your television. Same for what is on your Mac. You don't have to, but you can, and that is a great selling feature.

I know people of that ilk, too.
I also know people of the frank Apple ilk.

Both types are closed-minded.
- Scoob

Oh, I'm closed-minded, I can admit that. Not that I have anything against Apple Products or people who buy them, more against the "It's Apple, so I should get it," crowd.

iow, you miss the naked robot ads. lol
- Scoob

I never got those. What kind of cookies you got, sir?

i used to use it...i actually only block youtube ads now...sites like this one i use enough and they wouldnt exist if they didnt make money so...its a small price to pay
- YuenglingJagr

Questionable ads here gave me no choice

I never got those. What kind of cookies you got, sir?
- Mononoke

None of that kind, I assure you. This is a work computer.

Then why should I get an Apple TV if my phone "happens to be an iphone?" Why would my phone make a difference if it's a stand-alone? And wasn't the basis of Apple TV product integration?

Please tell me, because I'm really not familiar with the Apple TV.
- jmatchett383

Apple TV is awful - just like iTunes is awful. They compartmentalize TV shows, movies, and music - all for a cost. Frank you very much. Pass.

None of that kind, I assure you. This is a work computer.
- Scoob

lol ive gotten the random lingerie ad, but yeah...hasnt gotten to that level

I'm a devoted Mac user. Bought my Roku for 40 bucks.
- mayorofangrytown

Yeah Roku is the move. The new TCL TV's have the Roku hardware/software built inside them now.

Because you can integrate them easily and then play content that is on your iPhone right onto your television. Same for what is on your Mac. You don't have to, but you can, and that is a great selling feature.
- Scoob

So after you pay for the Apple TV, you can they pay to stream things to your phone/computer to utilize the Apple TV. Got it.

How is that different than using a stand-alone streaming service or using a WiFi connection?

Apple TV is awful - just like iTunes is awful. They compartmentalize TV shows, movies, and music - all for a cost. Frank you very much. Pass.
- Pixote Andolini

its actually just an interface for itunes if you are using it that way. its still a million times better for streaming than SmartTV and when I bought it it was, in my opinion, without a doubt the best device for streaming my phone to my TV and onto my speakers