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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 11 @ 11:07 AM ET
NHL teams begin to learn guidelines for likely expansion draft in 2017
https://t.co/tiApfnuzEO

Teams cannot reacquire players they trade after Jan. 1, 2017 prior to Jan. 1, 2018. This is to prevent teams from entering arrangements to “hide” players from the expansion draft. There will likely be a lot more guidelines as part of this rule.

Teams have to expose at least two forwards and one defenceman who have played either 40 games in the previous season (2016-17) or 70 games in the previous two seasons (2015-17). Teams can only lose a max of one player.

The expansion team must select players that have a total value of between 60 and100 per cent of the 2016-17 salary cap.

The expansion team can’t buy out anyone it picks in the expansion draft until the following off-season (2018).

The expansion team will be given the same draft lottery odds as the team that finishes third last in the league and cannot pick later than sixth in the 2017 NHL entry draft. It’s possible the expansion team could end up with the first overall pick, if it wins the lottery.

Teams must protect players that have no-movement clauses active in the 2017-18 season. No-movement clauses active in 2016-17 will have no impact. There will likely be exceptions made for players with no-movement clauses who are out with career-ending injuries (i.e. Ryane Clowe and Nathan Horton). Teams are not expected to be forced to protect those contracts.

- nbboy

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 11:07 AM ET
Not really the answer, but they certainly would deal for him before gudbranson
- HB77



I doubt it, they wouldn't be improving their D IMO.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 11:08 AM ET
Who's that guy?

What about Stamkos?


- Garnie

He's like Kapanen, only I haven't had enough coffee.

Now you know why a put out a hit on you yesterday.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 11:09 AM ET
He's like Kapanen, only I haven't had enough coffee.

Now you know why a put out a hit on you yesterday.

- Atomic Wedgie



*peeks through curtains*
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:11 AM ET
You will not have to protect someone who is not signed through the next season. This is common sense.
- HealthyScratch6


At present, this is NOT the case


There is no caveat stated absolving this circumstance
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:12 AM ET
Just looking at the Leafs' roster next offseason - good Lord, we have nothing to worry about with the expansion draft.

Guys we need to protect:

JVR
Kadri
Rielly
Gardiner
Zaitsev????
Kasparen

Anyone else?

Not going to lose much sleep on this one.

- Atomic Wedgie


Nylander and even potentially soshnikov I think
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
Nylander and even soshnikov I think
- HB77

Poop - good point

So here's a funny question:

If there is an expansion draft in 2018-19 for the Quebec Smokers, do we have to protect Matthews?

Technically, he will have three years of pro experience.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 11:20 AM ET
Nylander and even potentially soshnikov I think
- HB77

Not terribly worried about losing Soshnikov
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
Poop - good point

So here's a funny question:

If there is an expansion draft in 2018-19 for the Quebec Smokers, do we have to protect Matthews?

Technically, he will have three years of pro experience.

- Atomic Wedgie

Can the Quebec dart hackers poach players from the Vegas aces?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
Poop - good point

So here's a funny question:

If there is an expansion draft in 2018-19 for the Quebec Smokers, do we have to protect Matthews?

Technically, he will have three years of pro experience.

- Atomic Wedgie

Oh sh1t!

Never thought of that

this expansion thing is starting off on a bad note
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:23 AM ET
Not terribly worried about losing Soshnikov
- Atomic Wedgie

Fair

Heard some decent stuff about him, but I don't know much
Wissler
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 05.10.2016

Jun 11 @ 11:23 AM ET
At present, this is NOT the case


There is no caveat stated absolving this circumstance

- HB77

"Teams must protect players that have no-movement clauses active in the 2017-18 season. No-movement clauses active in 2016-17 will have no impact. "
It all depends what the nhl states as the new season. If the 2016\17 season ends immediately after the cups been raised i think ferences nmc is wiped. If its july 1st when the nhl declares the start of the 2017\18 season then maybe ference has to be protected
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 11 @ 11:25 AM ET
Fair

Heard some decent stuff about him, but I don't know much

- HB77

hes a little poophead.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 11 @ 11:25 AM ET
Not terribly worried about losing Soshnikov
- Atomic Wedgie

well...that's 2 strikes for u this morning already
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jun 11 @ 11:26 AM ET
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=57175&page=last#16325270
- burn


There are no words......
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
Poop - good point

So here's a funny question:

If there is an expansion draft in 2018-19 for the Quebec Smokers, do we have to protect Matthews?

Technically, he will have three years of pro experience.

- Atomic Wedgie



the clause actually states "years of pro experience, while party to an SPC."

at least for purposes of waiver. But playing in Europe or the AHL doesn't count until an SPC is signed.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 11:30 AM ET
There are no words......
- Kinger34



who really bookmarks this stuff
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:32 AM ET
"Teams must protect players that have no-movement clauses active in the 2017-18 season. No-movement clauses active in 2016-17 will have no impact. "
It all depends what the nhl states as the new season. If the 2016\17 season ends immediately after the cups been raised i think ferences nmc is wiped. If its july 1st when the nhl declares the start of the 2017\18 season then maybe ference has to be protected

- Wissler

It's July 1

But I'm still reading this as the oilers don't need to protect him
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:33 AM ET
I don't agree.

Otherwise teams could hide guys.

- Atomic Wedgie



and risk losing them?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 11:33 AM ET
the clause actually states "years of pro experience, while party to an SPC."

at least for purposes of waiver. But playing in Europe or the AHL doesn't count until an SPC is signed.

- prock

Cool. Thanks.

Makes it harder for us armchair GMs - now need to know when the SPC was signed.

Where the hell have you been?
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jun 11 @ 11:35 AM ET
who really bookmarks this stuff
- Garnie



Pretty awesome reference material though.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 11:36 AM ET
and risk losing them?
- prock

If you were about to be a UFA and wanted to re-sign with your existing team, would you sign with Vegas?

Rules are rules.

Assuming draft is a week before July 1st, this is probably much ado about nothing anyways.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:36 AM ET
Cool. Thanks.

Makes it harder for us armchair GMs - now need to know when the SPC was signed.

Where the hell have you been?

- Atomic Wedgie



meh, took a break for a while. Got married a couple of weeks ago, had a lot of work over the past year. I found myself swallowing up time at work on HB. Not a good thing.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 11 @ 11:37 AM ET
If you were about to be a UFA and wanted to re-sign with your existing team, would you sign with Vegas?

Rules are rules.

Assuming draft is a week before July 1st, this is probably much ado about nothing anyways.

- Atomic Wedgie


yeah, sort of stupid that some teams may be forced to protect someone on an expiring contract, then lose them a week later though. can't see the NHL allowing that.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
Pretty awesome reference material though.
- Kinger34



I guess if you like arguing and throwing stuff in peoples face....meh, I couldn't be bothered. I'm pretty sure most posters have posted some funny stuff/stupid stuff.
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