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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 11 @ 10:38 AM ET
Gudbranson is bigger and tougher than gardiner. But it ends there.

Slow as molasses and gets destroyed by the numbers at both ends of the rink


Gardiner is better than gudbranson every day of the week.

- HB77

maybe u guys should trade for him?

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:38 AM ET
I know this isn't a leaf trade but I heard this one today.

To the ducks: Taylor hall, 2nd round pick in 2016
To Edmonton: vatanen, Ritchie, 1st round pick 2016

- Kinggilmour



does edmonton own a 2nd rnd pick? nope not yet at leaast
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 11 @ 10:39 AM ET
does edmonton own a 2nd rnd pick? nope not yet at leaast
- dmnted

yeah....right after they trade Yak
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:40 AM ET
No..

You can tell how good someone will be by watching them play.. The KHL is the second best league in the world and he's a star in that league.. He was one of the best defencemen in the WHC too.

He's very proven and capable.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


No. You have no idea until he hits the ice in the NHL. There have been many, many players tear up the KHL and other Euro leagues, only to fail miserably in the NHL.
Wissler
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 05.10.2016

Jun 11 @ 10:41 AM ET
Horton doesn't need to be protected
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 10:42 AM ET

- mr.sir


AWARDS BY LEAGUE
- KHL All-Star Game 14/15, 15/16
- KHL Defenseman of the Week 14/15, 14/15
- KHL First All-Star Team 14/15, 15/16
- KHL Playoffs Most Points by Defenseman 15/16
- U18 WJC Silver Medal 08/09
- U20 WJC Gold Medal 10/11
- World Championship All-Star Team 15/16
- World Championship Bronze Medal 15/16
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:42 AM ET
Horton doesn't need to be protected
- Wissler

Link ?


Curious to know about Ference's situation too
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
AWARDS BY LEAGUE
- KHL All-Star Game 14/15, 15/16
- KHL Defenseman of the Week 14/15, 14/15
- KHL First All-Star Team 14/15, 15/16
- KHL Playoffs Most Points by Defenseman 15/16
- U18 WJC Silver Medal 08/09
- U20 WJC Gold Medal 10/11
- World Championship All-Star Team 15/16
- World Championship Bronze Medal 15/16

- nbboy

next up...

TJ Brennan's AHL awards
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
Horton doesn't need to be protected
- Wissler


His salary is two days profit from Real Sports Bar and does not count against the cap so who cares? - I guess trollers from teams that count nickels.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
maybe u guys should trade for him?
- mr.sir

Not really the answer, but they certainly would deal for him before gudbranson
Wissler
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 05.10.2016

Jun 11 @ 10:43 AM ET
Link ?


Curious to know about Ference's situation too

- HB77

http://www.theglobeandmai...-in-2017/article30400443/

Mirtle says its players with career ending injuries not sure about ference
PhilMcCracken
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mulmur, ON
Joined: 01.12.2014

Jun 11 @ 10:44 AM ET
quote=burn\So ironic.

It's hilarious when people tell you what you feel like.




But hey, this guy certainly isn't a troll and is respectful and only here to discuss hockey. \

I was a little crass and suggested a butt plug to him, however my comment was deleted. Disappointing.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 10:45 AM ET
next up...

TJ Brennan's AHL awards

- mr.sir

youre right! AHL

Just saying hes half decent!
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:45 AM ET
His salary is two days profit from Real Sports Bar and does not count against the cap so who cares? - I guess trollers from teams that count nickels.
- winsix
huh?

It's not about his dollars

It's about being forced to waste a spot on protecting him from expansion. No ones worried about his salary.
Wissler
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 05.10.2016

Jun 11 @ 10:45 AM ET
Link ?


Curious to know about Ference's situation too

- HB77

They might not enforce his no move because his contract is ending that summer. I may have mis read the article though
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:50 AM ET
They might not enforce his no move because his contract is ending that summer. I may have mis read the article though
- Wissler

Couldn't really find much about that

Pretty silly if they don't. In fact there's probably less chance of a team picking a guy that is a free agent in a week than there is a guy with a potential career ending injury

Maybe they think it's possible he could recover.
Or more likely, they need to get to the cap floor if they're gonna go lean initially
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 11 @ 10:51 AM ET
His salary is two days profit from Real Sports Bar and does not count against the cap so who cares? - I guess trollers from teams that count nickels.
- winsix



I believe it does up until they are near the cap ceiling and i don't believe there is ltir during the summer months but there is a 10% overage on the cap.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 10:56 AM ET
NHL teams begin to learn guidelines for likely expansion draft in 2017
https://t.co/tiApfnuzEO

Teams cannot reacquire players they trade after Jan. 1, 2017 prior to Jan. 1, 2018. This is to prevent teams from entering arrangements to “hide” players from the expansion draft. There will likely be a lot more guidelines as part of this rule.

Teams have to expose at least two forwards and one defenceman who have played either 40 games in the previous season (2016-17) or 70 games in the previous two seasons (2015-17). Teams can only lose a max of one player.

The expansion team must select players that have a total value of between 60 and100 per cent of the 2016-17 salary cap.

The expansion team can’t buy out anyone it picks in the expansion draft until the following off-season (2018).

The expansion team will be given the same draft lottery odds as the team that finishes third last in the league and cannot pick later than sixth in the 2017 NHL entry draft. It’s possible the expansion team could end up with the first overall pick, if it wins the lottery.

Teams must protect players that have no-movement clauses active in the 2017-18 season. No-movement clauses active in 2016-17 will have no impact. There will likely be exceptions made for players with no-movement clauses who are out with career-ending injuries (i.e. Ryane Clowe and Nathan Horton). Teams are not expected to be forced to protect those contracts.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 11 @ 11:00 AM ET
No. You have no idea until he hits the ice in the NHL. There have been many, many players tear up the KHL and other Euro leagues, only to fail miserably in the NHL.
- prock

oh yeah..

wanna name the recent KHL failures?

because I can think of a lot more succeeding than failing lately.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 11:03 AM ET
Just looking at the Leafs' roster next offseason - good Lord, we have nothing to worry about with the expansion draft.

Guys we need to protect:

JVR
Kadri
Rielly
Gardiner
Zaitsev????
Kasparen

Anyone else?

Not going to lose much sleep on this one.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 11 @ 11:03 AM ET
Couldn't really find much about that

Pretty silly if they don't. In fact there's probably less chance of a team picking a guy that is a free agent in a week than there is a guy with a potential career ending injury

Maybe they think it's possible he could recover.
Or more likely, they need to get to the cap floor if they're gonna go lean initially

- HB77

You will not have to protect someone who is not signed through the next season. This is common sense.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 11 @ 11:05 AM ET
huh?

It's not about his dollars

It's about being forced to waste a spot on protecting him from expansion. No ones worried about his salary

- HB77[/quote

The types of players that will be protected from selection in this draft are futures. Lupul will need to play 24 games to qualify - if he does - he will be exposed for sure. The players that the Leafs may lose - forwards will be Gauthier and Lindberg neither of which would hurt too much. On defense - they could lose Stuart Percy and Valiev - I would think that the Leafs have less to worry about than others at this point.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jun 11 @ 11:05 AM ET
I'd really like to know what Bill Watters thinks about this. He seems to be the all knowing expert
- Popcorn Kid


that is willing to talk to MIB
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 11:06 AM ET
Just looking at the Leafs' roster next offseason - good Lord, we have nothing to worry about with the expansion draft.

Guys we need to protect:

JVR
Kadri
Rielly
Gardiner
Zaitsev????
Kasparen

Anyone else?

Not going to lose much sleep on this one.

- Atomic Wedgie


Who's that guy?

What about Stamkos?


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 11:06 AM ET
You will not have to protect someone who is not signed through the next season. This is common sense.
- HealthyScratch6

I don't agree.

Otherwise teams could hide guys.

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