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Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 11 @ 9:42 AM ET
I'd really like to know what Bill Watters thinks about this. He seems to be the all knowing expert
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 9:43 AM ET
Hmmmm

I wonder

I suppose the guys with expiring contracts would for sure. Makes no difference.

But even Horton, I dunno. I assume regardless that he's injured he still has some obligations to the team that signs his paychecks. Mostly I mean he has to at least be present for functions or available to them whenever they want. Maybe the team wants regular training and supervision in case he can come back etc etc.
All just spitballing of course. But maybe he hates the thought of Vegas and won't do it. Why even risk it if you don't have to right ?
Im essentially referring to at least part time residence in Vegas.

- HB77

Vegas would never select him.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 9:47 AM ET
Hmmmm

I wonder

I suppose the guys with expiring contracts would for sure. Makes no difference.

But even Horton, I dunno. I assume regardless that he's injured he still has some obligations to the team that signs his paychecks. Mostly I mean he has to at least be present for functions or available to them whenever they want. Maybe the team wants regular training and supervision in case he can come back etc etc.
All just spitballing of course. But maybe he hates the thought of Vegas and won't do it. Why even risk it if you don't have to right ?
Im essentially referring to at least part time residence in Vegas.

- HB77

And here's a hilarious thought:

Would Lupul waive to go to Vegas?

I think he might.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
I'd really like to know what Bill Watters thinks about this. He seems to be the all knowing expert
- Popcorn Kid

Watters is angry about it.

What's the subject again?
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
Kinda semantics.

The expansion draft sounds like it's gonna be right before the draft. (Late June)
Ference's Contract expires July 1. I dunno how truly certain rxpansion is, but seems pretty much foregone.
I read that trying to get ference to retire is the move, but then he'd be leaving 3.5 mil out there..

As far as Horton, that's sorta what I was asking. I wasn't sure that ltir matters. If they have an nmc, they gotta be protected. But I could be wrong

- HB77

could be? As in a 100 percent chance?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 9:53 AM ET
could be? As in a 100 percent chance?
- the_eye

About them being protected ?

Definitely not 100%

In fact, quite the opposite at this point.
Daly mentioned nmc's having to be protected. And while certain grey areas (like ltir/expiring contracts) have been discussed, no outs have been given

Unless of course you have a link to some league mandated literature specifying the rule...?



I wonder why you even bothered to retort ?
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:02 AM ET
not like it wouldnt be hard to find a scoring winger who wanted to play with McJesus
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:11 AM ET
I'd really like to know what Bill Watters thinks about this. He seems to be the all knowing expert
- Popcorn Kid

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/...t_id=17491&user_id=170779

1goose1 is Watters

It's key to figure out to do with the likes of Lupul, Clarkson, Michalek, Bozak, and Robidas. Having so much money tied up to LTIR or 3rd/4th line roles severely hamper future moves

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:18 AM ET
http://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=17491&user_id=170779

1goose1 is Watters

It's key to figure out to do with the likes of Lupul, Clarkson, Michalek, Bozak, and Robidas. Having so much money tied up to LTIR or 3rd/4th line roles severely hamper future moves


- poohcrumbs


what makes you think that?
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:20 AM ET
what makes you think that?
- prock


is that your alt?
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 10:22 AM ET
I'd really like to know what Bill Watters thinks about this. He seems to be the all knowing expert
- Popcorn Kid

Him Button and Shannon are the guys i like hearing..





mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 11 @ 10:27 AM ET
I can lie on the ice for half the cost and be just as useful.


Gudbranson is (frank)ing garbage

- lumlums

Really??

I would rank Gudbranson as 2nd best on the Leafs, right behind Rielly, and before Gardiner.

Every time I have seen him play, he has been great
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:29 AM ET
Really??

I would rank Gudbranson as 2nd best on the Leafs, right behind Rielly, and before Gardiner.

Every time I have seen him play, he has been great

- mr.sir



I'd take him on the Leafs too.

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 11 @ 10:30 AM ET
I'd take him on the Leafs too.
- Garnie

Finally.....a smart person
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 11 @ 10:30 AM ET
Really??

I would rank Gudbranson as 2nd best on the Leafs, right behind Rielly, and before Gardiner.

Every time I have seen him play, he has been great

- mr.sir

Gards is far more mobile.. Also id bet a hot dog that Zaits is better than Gudbransson.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:31 AM ET
Finally.....a smart person
- mr.sir


I'm sure shortly will be told how stupid we are and that he's garbage.

10 9 8 7 6..................................
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 11 @ 10:31 AM ET
Gards is far more mobile.. Also id bet a hot dog that Zaits is better than Gudbransson.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I knew someone would try to say Zaitsev.......

a bit unproven don't u think?
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 10:32 AM ET
I'm sure shortly will be told how stupid we are and that he's garbage.

10 9 8 7 6..................................

- Garnie

You guys are s..... and hes gar....
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:34 AM ET
Gards is far more mobile.. Also id bet a hot dog that Zaits is better than Gudbransson.
- Arctic_AARDVARK



a hot dog, really gambling big time there
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:34 AM ET
You guys are s..... and hes gar....
- nbboy

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 11 @ 10:35 AM ET
Gards is far more mobile.. Also id bet a hot dog that Zaits is better than Gudbransson.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Gudbranson is bigger and tougher than gardiner. But it ends there.

Slow as molasses and gets destroyed by the numbers at both ends of the rink


Gardiner is better than gudbranson every day of the week.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 11 @ 10:36 AM ET
I knew someone would try to say Zaitsev.......

a bit unproven don't u think?

- mr.sir

No..

You can tell how good someone will be by watching them play.. The KHL is the second best league in the world and he's a star in that league.. He was one of the best defencemen in the WHC too.

He's very proven and capable.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 11 @ 10:36 AM ET

- Garnie

Not sure of him actually but always thought he was fairly good
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 11 @ 10:36 AM ET
No..

You can tell how good someone will be by watching them play.. The KHL is the second best league in the world and he's a star in that league.. He was one of the best defencemen in the WHC too.

He's very proven and capable.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 11 @ 10:37 AM ET
Gudbranson is bigger and tougher than gardiner. But it ends there.

Slow as molasses and gets destroyed by the numbers at both ends of the rink


Gardiner is better than gudbranson every day of the week.

- HB77



meh, Gardiner has good days and bad...#'s don't play hockey...Gud played a lot of tough mins...Gard's...not so much.
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