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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: RIP to Gordie Howe, Benning Looking for a Top-Six Player
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:37 PM ET
Maybe you're right. It is more ambiguous than how I took it when I first read it.

I was pretty pumped about the Matt Duchene discussion in yesterday's blog. Not saying that a fifth pick would yield Duchene and a second but I do think Colorado could move him. I learned from talking to him at the World Championship just how sharp he is—he'd be on my wish list.

- Carol Schram


It's the "move down" and get a top 6 pick that made me think differently. I really have no wish list for other players in the league anymore, Van needs to get and find their next players that a fan base can grow around. Not home grown player but players they draft develop.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 7:40 PM ET
which was my point when I said some cant ....but the kid reminds me of schneider, real calm cool and collected. Think he'll be great.

Markstrom had a few bad initial outings early on but has looked solid since. I wonder how much involvement Linden has with the young players (if any) because he seems to have a real calming influenece.

- SMBDragon


This entire conversation started because he was ranked 48 in the top 100 list of NCAA players. People thought he was ranked too low.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 10 @ 7:48 PM ET
Would you do it for the 5th, Hansen, the Torteralla gift whilst taking on one of their crappier contracts (ie Tyutin, Savard, Tyutin)?
- Rocket_Launcher

No.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 7:48 PM ET
Rofl, That is horrible. Read my previous post about the last time a top 5 was moved. and it was only 2 spots not 4. #9, Gallagher, #39 would be the deal, unless MTL swaps Gallagher for more picks(2 more 2nds and a 3rd) one of the 2nds could be a 2017 if it makes them feel better. Even then, Dubois has more value to us than Brown or Sergachev.
- Retinalz


You'll see the pick traded for my proposal before yours
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 7:50 PM ET
That's what you might want the Nux to accept, but not happening unless JB gets a legit top six player right now.
- kaptaan


No I'm just realistic ...if I'm a Canucks fan I'd want him to just draft at 5 instead of getting too cute and effing it all up
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 7:54 PM ET
I wouldn't trade the 5 th for the 9 th and 39 th or even another second rounder seeing they have two. If they weren't offering Gallagher in the package I would be walking up to the stage and drafting my future top center.
- VANTEL


I say draft the center ...you ain't getting this massive package for 4 spots ...maybe if it's from say 5 to 16 or something than you might but not 4 spots
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 10 @ 7:54 PM ET
No I'm just realistic ...if I'm a Canucks fan I'd want him to just draft at 5 instead of getting too cute and effing it all up
- Redmile247

Most here do.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jun 10 @ 8:02 PM ET
I say draft the center ...you ain't getting this massive package for 4 spots ...maybe if it's from say 5 to 16 or something than you might but not 4 spots
- Redmile247

Most people would be happy to take bpa at 5, unless it's a package of the kind JB mentioned. Top six player now, 9 overall and a 2nd rounder. No one is saying that package is going to be there. So it may all be moot.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 10 @ 8:03 PM ET
You'll see the pick traded for my proposal before yours
- Redmile247

So then according to you we pick 5OA as your offer has a 0% chance of happening.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 10 @ 8:03 PM ET
Totally agree. If Montreal wants a big French first line center, then they will have to over-pay. Gallagher or Galchenyuk plus a 2nd and the 9th for the 5th, Borrows, and one of the d prospects (Brisbois, Neil, Tate, Subban).
- Rocket_Launcher
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 8:08 PM ET
I say draft the center ...you ain't getting this massive package for 4 spots ...maybe if it's from say 5 to 16 or something than you might but not 4 spots
- Redmile247

We don't really know what is being offered. I am not sure if you know Pratt? He is a DipSh1t but he does know some some people . He does on occasion talk directly to Linden but most reputable people avoid him and his side kick.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 10 @ 8:09 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman ✔ @FriedgeHNIC
NJ/FLA working on a deal where NJ takes Marc Savard's cap hit+a 2018 second rounder for Paul Thompson and Graham Black
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 8:17 PM ET
We don't really know what is being offered. I am not sure if you know Pratt? He is a DipSh1t but he does know some some people . He does on occasion talk directly to Linden but most reputable people avoid him and his side kick.
- VANTEL


Yeah I've heard his ramblings ...and it's good to give Canucks fans something to banter about but I just don't see this one being realistic
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 8:20 PM ET
Most people would be happy to take bpa at 5, unless it's a package of the kind JB mentioned. Top six player now, 9 overall and a 2nd rounder. No one is saying that package is going to be there. So it may all be moot.
- kaptaan


JB is just doing his job and trying to drive the price up ...he can't actually believe he is going to get that unless the first rounder is mid range or the top 6 fwd is pushing 30
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 8:20 PM ET
So then according to you we pick 5OA as your offer has a 0% chance of happening.
- Retinalz


According to you
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 8:21 PM ET
Yeah I've heard his ramblings ...and it's good to give Canucks fans something to banter about but I just don't see this one being realistic
- Redmile247

TO and WPG aren't trading so 3,4,5 are the top tradable teams. Someone missing key parts are targeting these teams. If Habs are trading and want Dubois , they know CBJ want Tkachuck. Edmonton want Subban we will take Gallagher, what trade do you make?
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 10 @ 8:31 PM ET
JB is just doing his job and trying to drive the price up ...he can't actually believe he is going to get that unless the first rounder is mid range or the top 6 fwd is pushing 30
- Redmile247


That's your opinion and if that's the case we stay at 5th. Just drop it already. Repeating the same thing a few times is ridiculous.
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jun 10 @ 8:33 PM ET
That's your opinion and if that's the case we stay at 5th. Just drop it already. Repeating the same thing a few times is ridiculous.
- WhatTheNuck

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 10 @ 8:34 PM ET
TO and WPG aren't trading so 3,4,5 are the top tradable teams. Someone missing key parts are targeting these teams. If Habs are trading and want Dubois , they know CBJ want Tkachuck. Edmonton want Subban we will take Gallagher, what trade do you make?
- VANTEL

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 10 @ 8:35 PM ET
TO and WPG aren't trading so 3,4,5 are the top tradable teams. Someone missing key parts are targeting these teams. If Habs are trading and want Dubois , they know CBJ want Tkachuck. Edmonton want Subban we will take Gallagher, what trade do you make?
- VANTEL

I would love it if CBJ took Tkachuk, and MTL traded to #4 to get Dubois. We would get JP
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 8:38 PM ET
JB is just doing his job and trying to drive the price up ...he can't actually believe he is going to get that unless the first rounder is mid range or the top 6 fwd is pushing 30
- Redmile247


He used Dreger , he used Kuzma ( local writer) and now they are using Pratt. Smart move if you ask me.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 10 @ 8:40 PM ET
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 8:46 PM ET
That's your opinion and if that's the case we stay at 5th. Just drop it already. Repeating the same thing a few times is ridiculous.
- WhatTheNuck


You do realize your in a Canucks thread right

Repeating ones opinion is the gold standard in here
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jun 10 @ 8:46 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

quality post...
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 8:54 PM ET
TO and WPG aren't trading so 3,4,5 are the top tradable teams. Someone missing key parts are targeting these teams. If Habs are trading and want Dubois , they know CBJ want Tkachuck. Edmonton want Subban we will take Gallagher, what trade do you make?
- VANTEL


IMO the habs aren't in a situation where they have to do anything ...they get price back ...galchenyuk was looking like a 1C with patches by the end of the year ...I say go into the season hoping he continues ...as for subban depending on the trade I might do it
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