- Lucas.Neilson

I will still click on your blogs and have a read, the last one was good , by the way.

Hoho left for good....?
- lumlums

I guess many of us older guys have had it with this place. I personally can't take Lou anymore. Perception is reality. So, I choose to do other things with my time.

cheers

Barrie would cost a ton but 100% fit the bill.
- Lucas.Neilson

Yeah, Barrie would be perfect but I don't honestly know where all these rumours are coming from. Colorado would be stupid to move him. Yes he is going to earn a big pay increase - but you need a player like that - and one way or another you have to pay the cost to be the boss.

He could
But would be pricey.

but talent cost.
- Fakepartofme

What is pricey - A second this year, a second next year and, Kapanen and Percy do it?

They would have the pieces to trade - IMO, but the bigger issue would be how much to sign him? I believe Reilly is better, now do you pay an outsider more money than Reilly who projects to be a top pairing guy? Not sure if Leafs could do that and Edmonton might be willing to overpay.
- winsix

Yes, you pay him $6mil X 6 years if you have to. He's basically coming off back-to-back 50 point seasons at the age of 24.(53 and 49) He had 38 points in the year before that, which can compare to Rielly's 36 points this season.(same age)

He also logs between 21-26 minutes per night.

I don't get to see enough Colorado games to really know for sure, but it sounds like Barrie already is a top pairing D.

Yeah, Barrie would be perfect but I don't honestly know where all these rumours are coming from. Colorado would be stupid to move him. Yes he is going to earn a big pay increase - but you need a player like that - and one way or another you have to pay the cost to be the boss.
- Njuice

Bob Mackenzie reported it.

If he goes, that’s a really bad trend of guys leaving after both stasnty and o’reilly.

Nope just HoHo was banned and has left HB as a result.
- bixll

he deserved that for spoilers re the Star Wars movie

Yes, you pay him $6mil X 6 years if you have to. He's basically coming off back-to-back 50 point seasons at the age of 24.(53 and 49) He had 38 points in the year before that, which can compare to Rielly's 36 points this season.(same age)

He also logs between 21-26 minutes per night.

I don't get to see enough Colorado games to really know for sure, but it sounds like Barrie already is a top pairing D.
- Njuice

I think the avs would pay him that

Sounds like 6.5-7 is what he is looking for

What is pricey - A second this year, a second next year and, Kapanen and Percy do it?
- winsix

Hell no. Colorado would never go for that. Not even including any of our better prospects. Percy's value is pretty much nothing. He'll be traded for a 5th rounder at best - simply because he has to clear waivers if the Leafs want him on the Marlies and he's not even close to our best D prospect and has zero chance of playing on the Leafs.

For Barrie you'd have to trade one of our better prospects like Connor Brown or Nylander(which is a bad idea). Packaging a bunch of long shot prospects together won't get you a 1st pairing D.

I think the avs would pay him that

Sounds like 6.5-7 is what he is looking for
- Tumbleweed

That's pricey. I would pay it.

R.I.P Mr. Hockey

Yeah, Barrie would be perfect but I don't honestly know where all these rumours are coming from. Colorado would be stupid to move him. Yes he is going to earn a big pay increase - but you need a player like that - and one way or another you have to pay the cost to be the boss.
- Njuice

Only makes sense to get Barrie if Leafs trade Gardiner.
Leafs need d-men that can play defense as well in addition to d-men that can play offense.
If Leafs trade Gardiner, Barrie and Zaitsev can be 2nd pairing (or Rielly and Zaitsev, and Barrie on first pairing).
Barrie would not be a good defensive pairing partner for Rielly.

Hell no. Colorado would never go for that. Not even including any of our better prospects. Percy's value is pretty much nothing. He'll be traded for a 5th rounder at best - simply because he has to clear waivers if the Leafs want him on the Marlies and he's not even close to our best D prospect and has zero chance of playing on the Leafs.

For Barrie you'd have to trade one of our better prospects like Connor Brown or Nylander(which is a bad idea). Packaging a bunch of long shot prospects together won't get you a 1st pairing D.
- Njuice

Agreed.

Sounds like Colorado is looking for a dman coming back.

Leafs and Av’s may not make the best trade partners imo.

Yeah, Barrie would be perfect but I don't honestly know where all these rumours are coming from. Colorado would be stupid to move him. Yes he is going to earn a big pay increase - but you need a player like that - and one way or another you have to pay the cost to be the boss.
- Njuice

They have already started to shop him - IMO they are in cap trouble- they already have Eric Johnson $6 million and Beuauchemin at $4.5 million, Brad Stuart at $3.6 and McKinnon is an RFA - no way they are able to sign Barrie without creating space. On top of that Roy sees Barrie as a fifth defenseman - why would they not create some cap room and bring in some picks and prospects?

Hell no. Colorado would never go for that. Not even including any of our better prospects. Percy's value is pretty much nothing. He'll be traded for a 5th rounder at best - simply because he has to clear waivers if the Leafs want him on the Marlies and he's not even close to our best D prospect and has zero chance of playing on the Leafs.

For Barrie you'd have to trade one of our better prospects like Connor Brown or Nylander(which is a bad idea). Packaging a bunch of long shot prospects together won't get you a 1st pairing D.
- Njuice

Not a chance that Nylander gets traded for Barrie, Leafs would probably move Gardiner and picks, Kapanen is a possibility, but Nylander is part of the long range plan - and Brown has been moving up steadily since selected so it might happen but I am not so certain. Still think the Oilers or Habs would outbid the Leafs - only problem for Oilers is - they have no defensemen to trade.

TSN's Bob McKenzie is convinced the Avalanche will trade Barrie, a restricted free agent, and said so during an interview on Edmonton’s TSN 1260.

"There’s no question in my mind, I think Tyson Barrie is going to be traded," he said. "Yeah, here’s what I think. This is not going to make any sense, but I’m going to say it anyways. Colorado is looking for a defenseman. But I don’t think they like the economic leverage that Tyson Barrie has right now. Tyson Barrie has got a very strong arbitration case. I think he’s going to be looking for a sum of money that Colorado doesn’t feel comfortable in giving him.

"Therefore, I think they’re looking for somebody who – looking for a different type of defenseman maybe, or one that’s not going to cost them as much money.

“So I think they are in the market for a defenseman. I think they are in the market for forwards as well, being a non-playoff team and all. But I definitely think Tyson Barrie has been in play, continues to be in play, and there’s a real strong chance that he could be traded at some point here.

“And he is precisely the type of defenseman that the Edmonton Oilers would be interested in having. So there may be a fit there. We’ll see.”

Not a chance that Nylander gets traded for Barrie, Leafs would probably move Gardiner and picks, Kapanen is a possibility, but Nylander is part of the long range plan - and Brown has been moving up steadily since selected so it might happen but I am not so certain. Still think the Oilers or Habs would outbid the Leafs - only problem for Oilers is - they have no defensemen to trade.
- winsix

nurse

seems like they need the help more now than what nurse will bring in a few years - imo.

They have already started to shop him - IMO they are in cap trouble- they already have Eric Johnson $6 million and Beuauchemin at $4.5 million, Brad Stuart at $3.6 and McKinnon is an RFA - no way they are able to sign Barrie without creating space. On top of that Roy sees Barrie as a fifth defenseman - why would they not create some cap room and bring in some picks and prospects?
- winsix

You can't measure potential deals on the basis of what you might be able to get done. Rather you need to compare your offer with the offers from other teams. So, today you hear rumblings of Barrie for Trouba. Do the Leafs have a better offer?

Not a chance that Nylander gets traded for Barrie, Leafs would probably move Gardiner and picks, Kapanen is a possibility, but Nylander is part of the long range plan - and Brown has been moving up steadily since selected so it might happen but I am not so certain. Still think the Oilers or Habs would outbid the Leafs - only problem for Oilers is - they have no defensemen to trade.
- winsix

barrie > gardiner, but:

is barrie @ $7M > Gardiner @ $4M in terms of value? I'm not so sure and hesitate with that trade.

TSN's Bob McKenzie is convinced the Avalanche will trade Barrie, a restricted free agent, and said so during an interview on Edmonton’s TSN 1260.

"There’s no question in my mind, I think Tyson Barrie is going to be traded," he said. "Yeah, here’s what I think. This is not going to make any sense, but I’m going to say it anyways. Colorado is looking for a defenseman. But I don’t think they like the economic leverage that Tyson Barrie has right now. Tyson Barrie has got a very strong arbitration case. I think he’s going to be looking for a sum of money that Colorado doesn’t feel comfortable in giving him.

"Therefore, I think they’re looking for somebody who – looking for a different type of defenseman maybe, or one that’s not going to cost them as much money.

“So I think they are in the market for a defenseman. I think they are in the market for forwards as well, being a non-playoff team and all. But I definitely think Tyson Barrie has been in play, continues to be in play, and there’s a real strong chance that he could be traded at some point here.

“And he is precisely the type of defenseman that the Edmonton Oilers would be interested in having. So there may be a fit there. We’ll see.”
- Lucas.Neilson

Completely agree - But the fit with Edmonton sending back a decent defenseman is not there. Maybe a three way deal gets it done?

TSN's Bob McKenzie is convinced the Avalanche will trade Barrie, a restricted free agent, and said so during an interview on Edmonton’s TSN 1260.

"There’s no question in my mind, I think Tyson Barrie is going to be traded," he said. "Yeah, here’s what I think. This is not going to make any sense, but I’m going to say it anyways. Colorado is looking for a defenseman. But I don’t think they like the economic leverage that Tyson Barrie has right now. Tyson Barrie has got a very strong arbitration case. I think he’s going to be looking for a sum of money that Colorado doesn’t feel comfortable in giving him.

"Therefore, I think they’re looking for somebody who – looking for a different type of defenseman maybe, or one that’s not going to cost them as much money.

“So I think they are in the market for a defenseman. I think they are in the market for forwards as well, being a non-playoff team and all. But I definitely think Tyson Barrie has been in play, continues to be in play, and there’s a real strong chance that he could be traded at some point here.

“And he is precisely the type of defenseman that the Edmonton Oilers would be interested in having. So there may be a fit there. We’ll see.”
- Lucas.Neilson

hmmmm....

nurse + eberle for the 10th + Barrie if both teams want to shake things up.

barrie > gardiner, but:

is barrie @ $7M > Gardiner @ $4M in terms of value? I'm not so sure and hesitate with that trade.
- Tumbleweed

I think you could sign Barrie for 5 years at $6 million - I am not convinced he gets $7 million.

Yes, you pay him $6mil X 6 years if you have to. He's basically coming off back-to-back 50 point seasons at the age of 24.(53 and 49) He had 38 points in the year before that, which can compare to Rielly's 36 points this season.(same age)

He also logs between 21-26 minutes per night.

I don't get to see enough Colorado games to really know for sure, but it sounds like Barrie already is a top pairing D.
- Njuice

You cant give him more than MR. Just cant.

Naz and MR took discounts to stay, we just make this guy our highest paid player it will piss everyone off.

hmmmm....

nurse + eberle for the 10th + Barrie if both teams want to shake things up.
- Tumbleweed

Last thing in the world (as incompetent as they are) Edmonton needs is more picks and to give up the best defenseman in their system. And the other problem is Edmonton is full of over paid and underperforming forwards like Eberle, RNH and Yakapoo - not a good fit - unless Edmonton gives up #4 pick and Avs want it.

You cant give him more than MR. Just cant.

Naz and MR took discounts to stay, we just make this guy our highest paid player it will piss everyone off.
- Bigzby

You can though, because he has a much better history of production. We can argue who is better at their own end of the ice until blue in the face, but 102 points over 2 seasons as a D-man speaks only one language - dollar bills.