Yeah but now you've burned the #4 for Marchenko who is still very much a maybe (and until he shows otherwise that's exactly what he is) and a rookie who may or maynot make an impact in the NHL.
How the hell is that going to help us THIS YEAR? A decade of poop is enough for me. Either take the best available player with #4 or trade it for a Hamonic/Barrie/Spurgeon+/etc...

I have to agree. I think Marchenko is seriously overrated if we are talking about the 4th pick for him. He looks less promising than Griffin did last year. I think most of us thought Rienhart wasn't a bad move draft day. Maybe he will prove not to be long term but I have to agree, we need proven if we are moving a serious asset and this pick is just that.

Normally I agree with Hendo but this pick isn't one for stocking the shelves in the AHL. Tkachuk is a serious player and it will be terrible if someone notices how great he is and moves up to get him. Oilers are lucky that he is being over shadowed by the much hyped Finns.

Trying to compare apples to apples. Matthew played on the same London Knights line that Domi did last year and arguably out played him by a slim margin. Still quite comparable. Both 57 games, Domi 102 pts, Tkachuk 107. 66 and 80 PIM respectively. Matthew put in 8 pts in 4 MCup games and Domi did 9 pts in 9 games. Not a ton different. Both play a fast physical game with high end offense.

Domi's rookie year (this last one) saw him add 52 pts on Arizona which has some talent but they aren't going to be able to add him with a guy like McDavid or even Leon for that matter (I am a big fan of Draisatl so I might be biased).

For the post that says detroit will take Dubois over Tkachuk because he's a center... don't count on it. Matthew, much to the delight of non leaf fans, took over the center role for a good chunk this year when Dvorak (Arizona prospect that is not in the same caliber as his line mates) and Mitch Marner who most sites say is Toronto's best prospect. Matthew can play all three forward positions and play them well. Picking him not only gets us a protected player but it gets us one that most likely will never see a day in the AHL. Odds are he will dominate in the CHL again next year and make the big team in two.

He gives the Oil a physical edge in their top 6. Matthew is really good at playing a high tempo game that gets under the skin of the opposing team. He's fast, he's hugely talented and I think he should be ranked 3rd in this draft. I thick Pulj is riding on Laine's coat tails a little. Jesse is not a bad player but Tkachuk is better IMO. Having Tkachuk gives the Oilers 4 forwards that can play center in their future top 6. I nice problem to have after watching the team have to play Gordon or even Smyth in his final year, during PPs to win draws and then try to get them off the ice.

Also, as Hendo pointed out. Going after two big dmen this summer means that one of them, Nurse or Klef will not be protected. I like the idea of going for a top dman and a veteran like Campbell. At 37 the Canadian can be an extremely afforadable addition to blue line. He can play top line minutes still and he is a great mentor for the younger guys. Multiple awards for this future HOF defender but I think the Lady Bing says a lot about the type of guy they would be adding to the locker room. It would almost be like having a less goofy looking Smyth back on the team.

Including Reinhardt in deals is like adding a 5th.....
- muffin_man

If that is the piece you are focusing on in this offer then you missed the point. Should take that offer and run.

I have to agree. I think Marchenko is seriously overrated if we are talking about the 4th pick for him. He looks less promising than Griffin did last year. I think most of us thought Rienhart wasn't a bad move draft day. Maybe he will prove not to be long term but I have to agree, we need proven if we are moving a serious asset and this pick is just that.
- Hall Fan

Remember last summer when they acquired Reinhart to be that top 4 dman? That trade reeks of that all over again
- NEONDOUBLEDION

Though Marchenko and Reinhart have similiarities (Size, smarts, and good passing), don't forget that Marchenko is a RHD, has better skating, a better hockey IQ, and and has been developed to a higher extend than Reinhart. I might be hyping him up a little bit, but Detroit management, Detroit fans, and Detroit analysts are all beginning to view Marchenko as a valuable, consistent player that will become a legitimate top 4 player that can play solid 2nd pairing minutes on a daily basis. Hell, he has been doing it on the international stage since he was U17! He has thrived in the AHL and so far, he has looked quite good in the NHL too. There are numerous articles all talking about how he is starting to rise up into the NHL atmosphere.

I can see why the 4th for Marchenko and the #16 would be a risky deal, but what if we offered them next year's first? Or a conditional offer for next year's draft picks (For example, if we make the playoffs, the pick becomes a 1st + 2nd +3rd, if not, it becomes a 2nd + 3rd + 4th along with a prospect or something; you can visualize where I'm going with this)?

Marchenko + 16th for next year's first or a conditional offer for Marchenko + 16th for (1+2+3 if we make the playoffs or 2+3+4+prospect if we don't) can be something to definitely consider.

I'm just trying to be creative here. Edmonton's needs a massive overhaul not just NHL depth wise, but also prospect wise and gaining 2 RHD that show promise would do this team wonders.

That usually happens when JB and Bingo show up
- prismo

He's just salty because the Avs are being run into the ground.

He's just salty because the Avs are being run into the ground.
- BINGO!

Vegas Hurricanes will be worse

Oilers should draft Tkachuk. He's the highly talented, sniping, strong and gritty winger they need on their roster. Don't worry about secondary assist talk. The secondary assist is often more important or a more difficult play than the primary assist. The amount of tic-tac-toe tap-ins that line put together is amazing. And Tkachuck scores a (frank) ton of goals.

Oilers should trade some players that have salaries in exchange of acquiring these elite D who will come with salaries, because in 1 - 2 years the Oilers will be up against the cap. (Thanks to McDavid's $12million and others like Draisaitl, Nurse, etc.)

Nurse doesn't need to be protected

There is no scenario where they don't protect klefbom



Yes, we know you want tkachuk. Is he better than petan or nichushkin tho?
Sure wish we woulda picked them over nurse huh!!?

Also, 4 paragraphs on how badly you wanna deepthroat tkachuk doesn't change the fact that hes a question mark and almost for surely doesn't help anytime real soon. That said, assuming ference is bought out, a proven nhl'er that can step in and immediately help this team that's been bottom feeding for 6 years helps more than a prospect. If not, we'll use the pick. And one of the defenders could very well be just as prudent a pick as your boyfriend
- HB77

Why doesn't Nurse need to be protected. By the end of next season he will have two full seasons played. Doesn't that put him on the protection required list?

I can only assume you forgot Oilhorse's name. Otherwise excellent fist.
- leonkennedy

No- I just thought I would mix it up a bit- poor Oilhorse has been victimized for years...

Vegas Hurricanes will be worse
- DDM-Coga

I'd laugh if Vegas name's their team the Vegas Strippers. Imagine what the jerseys would look like.

Vegas Hurricanes will be worse
- DDM-Coga

At least it'd be a lot easier for me to go to a game, but its not happening.

Why doesn't Nurse need to be protected. By the end of next season he will have two full seasons played. Doesn't that put him on the protection required list?
- Njuice

No

Guys who were rookies in 2015/16 are good

The new calendar contract year starts July 1

Expansion draft will be right around draft time late June.
Both Connor and nurse are fine



If either had even spent a season in the ahl theyd need to be protected. Like nylander

No

Guys who were rookies in 2015/16 are good

The new calendar contract year starts July 1

Expansion draft will be right around draft time late June.
Both Connor and nurse are fine



If either had even spent a season in the ahl theyd need to be protected. Like nylander
- HB77

Huh. Guess there was a bright side to our injury woes on D last season.

May god bless Ryan Smyth

May god bless Ryan Smyth
- DeflatedPucks

Keep the pick.

Keep the pick.
- systemtool

Nuts, I was gonna trade it to you for Corrado and Marincin.

Nuts, I was gonna trade it to you for Corrado and Marincin.
- Wildschwein

Oh well. Your loss.

Oh well. Your loss.
- systemtool

Sadly yes. I'll cope I'm sure.

Sadly yes. I'll cope I'm sure.
- Wildschwein

Do you need intervention?

Do you need intervention?
- DeflatedPucks

Only if there is a cash bar available during.

Marchenko...WHAT the (frank) are you guys even discussing.
Thats a dumb conversation...debate a 2nd pairing potential guy like hes some stud 1st pairing guy already.

Be better everyone

That's not a person.
- BINGO!

That matters not to a Ranger fan.

That's not a person.
- BINGO!

And...

What would be the reasonable asking price of Trouba? Eberle?

As for Shattenkirk, if Edmonton traded him for ONLY THE 4th (Even though he has "stated" that he wants to play in the east) considering that he hasn't been resigned yet and STL are up against the cap, would that still be a risky move, especially considering that his contract expires the following year?

Nonetheless, I still think Trouba is the better pickup out of the two asset management wise.

What would be the reasonable asking price of Trouba? Eberle?

As for Shattenkirk, if Edmonton traded him for ONLY THE 4th (Even though he has "stated" that he wants to play in the east) considering that he hasn't been resigned yet and STL are up against the cap, would that still be a risky move, especially considering that his contract expires the following year?

Nonetheless, I still think Trouba is the better pickup out of the two asset management wise.
- EdmHockeyMan

I don't find either particularly appealing since they both only have 1 year left on their respective deals.
Jets will likely want Nurse or Klefbom at any rate. So we weaken one side to strengthen the other. Does it make the team better for it? Not sure.