I wouldn't trade for Shattenkirk for two reasons...

1) Pending UFA

2) Has stated he wants to play out East (Boston or NYR)
- prismo

I didn't know that he wanted to play in the East. Thanks for stating that.

Congratulations on acquiring James Wisniewski.
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For a 2nd? Sure.

I have said it before, I think the Oilers and Jets make logical trade partners. I think Trouba and Nurse would have to be central components of that deal.
- TheUltimateJet

Perhaps... so long as that rumour of him wanting $7M is bullpoop.
I would trade Nurse but the trade has to be worth it.

You do anything to get a top 3 right shooting defenseman. But otherwise take a forward BOP. Which will be Puli, Tka, or Dub.

Yeah but now you've burned the #4 for Marchenko who is still very much a maybe (and until he shows otherwise that's exactly what he is) and a rookie who may or maynot make an impact in the NHL.
How the hell is that going to help us THIS YEAR? A decade of poop is enough for me. Either take the best available player with #4 or trade it for a Hamonic/Barrie/Spurgeon+/etc...
- Wildschwein

I can see what you mean by the rookie perspective (Yakupov is a player that comes to mind...).

Believe me, I've had enough of losing too, but we can't act so irrationally either. We also need to look ahead as well.

What if Jones was acquired via offer sheet? Or Trouba via trade?

Trouba/Jones, Marchenko, and McAvoy for the #4th and Eberle/Money would be a massive overhaul defensively and it would be great NHL wise and prospective wise.

Trading the pick is going to be hard. The 4th overall (one of Puljujarvi, Tkachuk, & Dubois) has high value this year considering the large number of high end talent in this draft and even more value when you take expansion into consideration.

For example if you trade the pick for a forward equal to Tkachuk's value, you are likely sending an extra piece to make up for the protection slot and cost of the 7th best forward you just left exposed. In this case to trade for a defenseman leaves Davidson exposed, so Edmonton should get enough value back that makes that loss acceptable.

Barrie is a good piece for the Oilers but I would ask for Barrie and the 10th overall pick for the 4th pick and another decent piece. High price to pay to move up 6 slots but it is the difference between a great piece and a virtually guaranteed piece that is expansion draft exempt.

All in all I don't see the pick being moved. The cost is unusually high this year and no one is likely to pay over market price.

Perhaps... so long as that rumour of him wanting $7M is bullpoop.
I would trade Nurse but the trade has to be worth it.
- Wildschwein

Trouba at 5.5 per for 5 years would be a solid deal. Anything over 6mill would be a tad bit of an overpayment.

Trouba at 5.5 per for 5 years would be a solid deal. Anything over 6mill would be a tad bit of an overpayment.
- EdmHockeyMan

We agree on this.

I can see what you mean by the rookie perspective (Yakupov is a player that comes to mind...).

Believe me, I've had enough of losing too, but we can't act so irrationally either. We also need to look ahead as well.

What if Jones was acquired via offer sheet? Or Trouba via trade?

Trouba/Jones, Marchenko, and McAvoy for the #4th and Eberle/Money would be a massive overhaul defensively and it would be great NHL wise and prospective wise.
- EdmHockeyMan

1) Dealing the 4th for a maybe and prospect isn't?
2) These are maybes. And big ones. I'm not going to bank on either happening.

We agree on this.
- Wildschwein

- EdmHockeyMan

You're welcome.

For a 2nd? Sure.
- Wildschwein

Deal.

Deal.
- BINGO!

No worries.
Please come again.

1) Dealing the 4th for a maybe and prospect isn't?
2) These are maybes. And big ones. I'm not going to bank on either happening.
- Wildschwein

I guess I might be overvaluing him a tad bit. A trade like that would take the balls of a giant to pull off. It's a high risk high reward situation.

Nonetheless, it's just my opinion that Marchenko is going to be a solid top 4 option going into next year. Adding in McAvoy into the prospective mix definitely helps us prospective wise.

Either way, there are going to be a lot of opportunities for Chia to grab up some good defenders this off season, I just hope he does!

No worries.
Please come again.
- Wildschwein

It feels like a logical fit, honestly.

We have a bunch of young D and need forwards, you have a bunch of young forwards and need D.

It feels like a logical fit, honestly.

We have a bunch of young D and need forwards, you have a bunch of young forwards and need D.
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Agreed.

Seabrook and TT for the #4 pick, Yak, & Nurse
- Dannyboy

That's actually really interesting. The only issues I can see is the high price for the high cap hit and the fact that Nurse is expansion exempt. Giving up two top ten picks for Seabrook is obviously not worth it but is the TT for Yakupov worth the difference?

If I was Edmonton I would demand Chicago's 2017 1st and that they take on Ference's contract for the year.

Seabrook, Teravainen, CHI 2017 1st

For

Nurse, Yakupov, Ference, EDM 4th overall pick

Hmmmm, I think Seabrook's age is gonna keep this from happening. If he was 26-28 then absolutely but he will start to decline in the next 1-3 years so I cannot see this happening for Edmonton.

It feels like a logical fit, honestly.

We have a bunch of young D and need forwards, you have a bunch of young forwards and need D.
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McKeown, please.

Seabrook and TT for the 4th, Yak, and Reinhart.

Seabrook's contract is gonna hurt so no Nurse.
- Wildschwein

is that enough for Chicago? Hard deal to make. Lol

McKeown, please.
- MaximumBone

Would require a big ticket forward (obviously other pieces involved).

He and Haydn Fleury are penciled in as a number 4-5-6 D man in the next 2 years.

I do agree with the cap strapped teams perspective, but the thing is Detroit has the #16 and McAvoy is targeted to be draft in the #15 to #17 range, which makes that pick highly attractable to us since we would love to acquire a really great RHD prospect that makes our defensive pipelines looking way better.

As for considerable assets, the only thing you will be spending is the #4 draft pick. You would still have core players as major chips to use for making a trade and you could still offer sheet jones.

As for asset management, acquiring 2-3 really good RHD would do wonders for this team than drafting Tkachuk at #4 (McAvoy, Marchenko, Trouba/etc); that's just my opinion and it seems to be the majority of most (except for NEONDOUBLEDEON).
- EdmHockeyMan

The value of the 4th pick is worth more than the 16th and a solid prospect defenseman. He isn't the top 4 you think he is (at least not yet) so he isn't worth that deal. To move that 4th pick Edmonton is better off targeting a guaranteed top 4 defender rather than a potential top 4 with time and chance.

The value of the 4th pick is worth more than the 16th and a solid prospect defenseman. He isn't the top 4 you think he is (at least not yet) so he isn't worth that deal. To move that 4th pick Edmonton is better off targeting a guaranteed top 4 defender rather than a potential top 4 with time and chance.
- Steven_Dean

Remember last summer when they acquired Reinhart to be that top 4 dman? That trade reeks of that all over again

I can see what you mean by the rookie perspective (Yakupov is a player that comes to mind...).

Believe me, I've had enough of losing too, but we can't act so irrationally either. We also need to look ahead as well.

What if Jones was acquired via offer sheet? Or Trouba via trade?

Trouba/Jones, Marchenko, and McAvoy for the #4th and Eberle/Money would be a massive overhaul defensively and it would be great NHL wise and prospective wise.
- EdmHockeyMan

You shouldn't think of a potential Trouba deal of Jones offer sheet to defend the value of another separate deal. If this trade is bad without the supporting moves then the deal is bad. BPA at #4 is better than Marchenko & McAvoy

Would Edm take Petry back? Not saying for the 4th overall here. Just in a regular player trade.

What about PK? What would be a fair deal?

I heard Shattenkirk loves Edmonton.

We should make a deal...