thats not very classy of you
- DDM-Coga

There is no place for class in an Oilers thread!

As an Islanders fan, I can comfortably say forget Hamonic unless you're ready to part with Taylor Hall for him. And even then, it's no shoe-in. Hamonic's that good and that important.

As an Islanders fan, I can comfortably say forget Hamonic unless you're ready to part with Taylor Hall for him. And even then, it's no shoe-in. Hamonic's that good and that important.
- isles10289

K


Now Stop embarassing yourself and go Post in the islanders thread where u might find a few empty headed homers who agree with you that hamonic is anywhere close to equaling hall


If TH is now off the table, so be it. But your post is laughably bad.

you must be that same poster who thought the leafs would probably part with their first overall to acquire Hamonic??!

As an Islanders fan, I can comfortably say forget Hamonic unless you're ready to part with Taylor Hall for him. And even then, it's no shoe-in. Hamonic's that good and that important.
- isles10289

As an Islanders fan, I can comfortably say forget Hamonic unless you're ready to part with Taylor Hall for him. And even then, it's no shoe-in. Hamonic's that good and that important.
- isles10289

He's not THAT good, but certainly is that important to the Islanders, who really have nothing great on D in spots 4-6.

He's not THAT good, but certainly is that important to the Islanders, who really have nothing great on D in spots 4-6.
- Jeropotato

I always get a kick out of these comments. Hes a top pairing Dman so hes worth the moon. No its not a top pairing Dman, hes the top pairing on your team, that doesnt mean hes a Top pairing guy universally across the NHL.

Its like Erik Johnson, is he a number 1 Dman, heck no, but hes a good 2-3 guy that doesnt look foolish being your ice time leader for your D Core.

Just bc they don't have the Number 1 Dman label doesnt mean they are bad but doesnt mean they are a kings random in a trade.

Hall is only being moved if there is a chance to get a pietrangelo type Dman, other than that, teams should pound sand

I always get a kick out of these comments. Hes a top pairing Dman so hes worth the moon. No its not a top pairing Dman, hes the top pairing on your team, that doesnt mean hes a Top pairing guy universally across the NHL.

Its like Erik Johnson, is he a number 1 Dman, heck no, but hes a good 2-3 guy that doesnt look foolish being your ice time leader for your D Core.

Just bc they don't have the Number 1 Dman label doesnt mean they are bad but doesnt mean they are a kings random in a trade
- DDM-Coga

You know what else is funny? How 25-26 teams seem to have the best young D in the league and future Norris winner. Like, how in the next 10 or 15 years is Jones, Rielly, Ristolainen, Ekblad, Trouba, Dumba, Vantanen, Ellis, Josi, Ghost, Hamilton, Brodie and Hamonic all gonna win it when Nurse and Klefborn are gonna be swapping the trophy back and forth over 8 or 9 of those years?

I always get a kick out of these comments. Hes a top pairing Dman so hes worth the moon. No its not a top pairing Dman, hes the top pairing on your team, that doesnt mean hes a Top pairing guy universally across the NHL.

Its like Erik Johnson, is he a number 1 Dman, heck no, but hes a good 2-3 guy that doesnt look foolish being your ice time leader for your D Core.

Just bc they don't have the Number 1 Dman label doesnt mean they are bad but doesnt mean they are a kings random in a trade.

Hall is only being moved if there is a chance to get a pietrangelo type Dman, other than that, teams should pound sand
- DDM-Coga

You deserve at least a handsky for this beaut

You know what else is funny? How 25-26 teams seem to have the best young D in the league and future Norris winner. Like, how in the next 10 or 15 years is Jones, Rielly, Ristolainen, Ekblad, Trouba, Dumba, Vantanen, Ellis, Josi, Ghost, Hamilton, Brodie and Hamonic all gonna win it when Nurse and Klefborn are gonna be swapping the trophy back and forth over 8 or 9 of those years?


- Jeropotato

Everyone bates to their under 20 dman who have dominated the AHL or Junior overage year when they are drafted to their team.

Oh poop son, this team is going to be a juggernaut from the back end out with all these Dmen.

I like my Top 4 in EJ, (Barrie soon to be Trouba) Zadorov and Bigras, but lets not get too crazy here, they are respectable on paper but they aren't some unstoppable dynamo.

You deserve at least a handsky for this beaut
- HB77

get the candles ready, I'm coming home

Brandon Montour needs to be protected in the draft. Maybe he could be had for cheap.

Brandon Montour needs to be protected in the draft. Maybe he could be had for cheap.
- RonPielep

1 player per team can only be taken, they will have more established Dmen unprotected bc of Bieksa and his NMC.

Guys like that in the AHL won't be on Vegas radar when they have quality NHL Dmen left for the taking with the Ducks (Fowler, Vantanen/Lindholm (depending on this summer) Theodore, Despres)

Min after they make an RFA trade, they could have to expose Theodore instead (Bieksa, Fowler, Lindhom)

1 player per team can only be taken, they will have more established Dmen unprotected bc of Bieksa and his NMC.

Guys like that in the AHL won't be on Vegas radar when they have quality NHL Dmen left for the taking with the Ducks (Fowler, Vantanen/Lindholm (depending on this summer) Theodore, Despres)

Min after they make an RFA trade, they could have to expose Theodore instead (Bieksa, Fowler, Lindhom)
- DDM-Coga

Good point but Theodore won't need to be protected. You're right though, if anyone is going from Anaheim it is likely Andersen or Fowler if they keep Vatanen.

Good point but Theodore won't need to be protected. You're right though, if anyone is going from Anaheim it is likely Andersen or Fowler if they keep Vatanen.
- RonPielep

why won't Theodore need to be protected? His ELC has slide twice already, He already has played, has term on his contract going into the 2017-18 season. What am I missing?

why won't Theodore need to be protected? He already has played, has term on his contract going into the 2017-18 season. What am I missing?
- DDM-Coga

Hasn't played more than two pro seasons. His previous AHL stints were 4 and 9 games in 13/14 and 14/15, respectively. Therefore his first full pro season was 15/16.

why won't Theodore need to be protected? His ELC has slide twice already, He already has played, has term on his contract going into the 2017-18 season. What am I missing?
- DDM-Coga

Pretty sure this past year was his rookie year in the pros


Played less than 10 in the pros in two prior occasions/seasons

Hasn't played more than two pro seasons. His previous AHL stints were 4 and 9 games in 13/14 and 14/15, respectively. Therefore his first full pro season was 15/16.
- RonPielep

ahh its 10 games that makes it a full pro season in the AHL for them, gotcha

Pretty sure this past year was his rookie year in the pros


Played less than 10 in the pros in two prior occasions/seasons
- HB77

Pretty sure this past year was his rookie year in the pros


Played less than 10 in the pros in two prior occasions/seasons
- HB77

well suck me sideways. Honestly need cap friendly to have an icon for players that are atomically protected or exempt from protection.

Im too lazy to keep up with all this crap now

ahh its 10 games that makes it a full pro season in the AHL for them, gotcha
- DDM-Coga

So they could keep 8 skaters and protect Lindholm, Fowler, Vatanen and Bieksa. But that would leave guys like Rakell exposed.

well suck me sideways. Honestly need cap friendly to have an icon for players that are atomically protected or exempt from protection.

Im too lazy to keep up with all this crap now
- DDM-Coga

That would be good. I just tried to do an analysis of who would be exposed by each team in alphabetical order. Quit when I got to Arizona. Too many teams have free agents right now so I think a lot will change before September and maybe then it will be easier to gauge what the Las Vegas Aces roster might look like.

Nurse won't need to be protected but Sekera/Klef will leaving only one of Griffin/Davidson will be exposed (if another D-man is not brought in). Chances are both Griff and Davidson will be exposed.

D: Sek, Klef, Davidson (or a newcomer)

Leon will need to be protected.

F: Hall, Nuge, Ebs, Leon, Pouliot, Maroon, Yak
G: Talbot

Exposed: Griff, potentially Davidson, Fayne, Kassian, Pak, Slep, Brossoit, Lander, Hendricks

Might make sense for the Oil to send Davidson back as part of the return for a solid RD. Reinhart could also be used as trade bait but I doubt Reinhart would be the player an expansion team would take anyways.

Nurse won't need to be protected but Sekera/Klef will leaving only one of Griffin/Davidson will be exposed (if another D-man is not brought in). Chances are both Griff and Davidson will be exposed.

D: Sek, Klef, Davidson (or a newcomer)

Leon will need to be protected.

F: Hall, Nuge, Ebs, Leon, Pouliot, Maroon, Yak
G: Talbot

Exposed: Griff, potentially Davidson, Fayne, Kassian, Pak, Slep, Brossoit, Lander, Hendricks

Might make sense for the Oil to send Davidson back as part of the return for a solid RD. Reinhart could also be used as trade bait but I doubt Reinhart would be the player an expansion team would take anyways.
- RonPielep

Of that group, and assuming Davidson has a season comparable to last, he'll be the one picked off for sure

And as much as that sucks, I still think we don't deal him unless it's a must add in to acquire a great defender.
We need what he brings to help us win and make some tangible steps forward, much more than we need to insulatevourselves from losing him for nothing. It's an acceptable risk I think

If we're bottom feeding again, lord help this organization. That would be a nightmare for so many reasons

Of that group, and assuming Davidson has a season comparable to last, he'll be the one picked off for sure

And as much as that sucks, I still think we don't deal him unless it's a must add in to acquire a great defender.
We need what he brings to help us win and make some tangible steps forward, much more than we need to insulatevourselves from losing him for nothing. It's an acceptable risk I think

If we're bottom feeding again, lord help this organization. That would be a nightmare for so many reasons
- HB77

Well then would you rather lose Pouliot/Yak or Davidson? To me it really depends on how they play next year. If the expansion draft were this year and the Oil had one more top RD I would be tempted to go 8 skaters (Hall, Ebs, Nuge, Leon, Klef, Sek, Davidson, ??) and risk losing Pouliot/Yak. Davidson is not a proven commodity yet though so another full season of solid progression could make him valuable enough to actually consider that.

Well then would you rather lose Pouliot/Yak or Davidson? To me it really depends on how they play next year. If the expansion draft were this year and the Oil had one more top RD I would be tempted to go 8 skaters (Hall, Ebs, Nuge, Leon, Klef, Sek, Davidson, ??) and risk losing Pouliot/Yak. Davidson is not a proven commodity yet though so another full season of solid progression could make him valuable enough to actually consider that.
- RonPielep

Im a big pouliot fan, and I think he's far more important to this team than many think

But if Davidson develops Furthur on last season, I gotta protect him

Yaks as of last season isn't even a consideration.

Davidson
Pouliot


Yaks