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twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jun 8 @ 5:40 PM ET
That's good. I was done arguing with you a long time ago when I proved you wrong on uninsured ltir.

I see that you've gone traditional hb route and posted links that don't support your stance and have no evidence to prove your stance and still told people they're wrong and should go read the cba. if nothing else you're entertaining.

Uninsured contracts can't be ltir'd........ And yet you keep coming back.

- burn

You're clearly not done

Regarding the underlined - that is actually known as the d0pps-spatso method
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 8 @ 5:42 PM ET
Let me guess....




- .HOHO.

I'm guessing that tail pipe sounds similar to Spidiot's farts.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 8 @ 5:42 PM ET
You're clearly not done

Regarding the underlined - that is actually known as the d0pps-spatso method

- twiztedmike




burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 8 @ 5:43 PM ET
I'm guessing that tail pipe sounds similar to Spidiot's farts.
- As_I_See_It




Wet?
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 8 @ 5:49 PM ET
Wet?
- burn

...

I was thinking loose.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 8 @ 5:51 PM ET
...

I was thinking loose.

- As_I_See_It



Shart.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 8 @ 6:20 PM ET
Stamkos coming to Toronto will be the talk of July #bookit
- Lucas.Neilson


If Stamkos signs in Toronto, let me sum up July for you...

He is injured, his career is over.
He only scored goals in Tampa because of St. Louis.
They repeated the Kessel mistake.
They won't be able to afford their young talent.
He wont be able to perform in this media circus.
Matthews won't like being second fiddle.
They should have drafted Laine.

etc. etc..
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 8 @ 6:24 PM ET

.

- burn


Owned by a male prostitute?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 8 @ 6:27 PM ET
Shart.
- burn


The San Jose Sharts...
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 8 @ 6:29 PM ET
If Stamkos signs in Toronto, let me sum up July for you...

He is injured, his career is over.
He only scored goals in Tampa because of St. Louis.
They repeated the Kessel mistake.
They won't be able to afford their young talent.
He wont be able to perform in this media circus.
Matthews won't like being second fiddle.
They should have drafted Laine.

etc. etc..

- Aetherial


Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate
Salami_Tsunami
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 06.04.2016

Jun 8 @ 6:39 PM ET
Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Well, well, well...the most diabolical haters this side of the Mississippi. I'd like to thank God almighty for giving everybody so much & me so little. I hope all the bad things happen to you & nobody else but you!
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 8 @ 6:51 PM ET
If Stamkos signs in Toronto, let me sum up July for you...

He is injured, his career is over.
He only scored goals in Tampa because of St. Louis.
They repeated the Kessel mistake.
They won't be able to afford their young talent.
He wont be able to perform in this media circus.
Matthews won't like being second fiddle.
They should have drafted Laine.

etc. etc..

- Aetherial



oh it will be endless.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 8 @ 6:51 PM ET
That's good. I was done arguing with you a long time ago when I proved you wrong on uninsured ltir.

I see that you've gone traditional hb route and posted links that don't support your stance and have no evidence to prove your stance and still told people they're wrong and should go read the cba. if nothing else you're entertaining.

Uninsured contracts can't be ltir'd........ And yet you keep coming back.

- burn


Alright – I think I figured this out. KG was misusing the term insurance, I think.

So, within players’ contracts, a clause exists that allows teams to stop paying a player if they get injured outside of hockey…e.g. on their personal time.

It’s not really clear, but I think for Horton a team could try to claim Horton’s condition didn’t exist at the time of the contract signing and was not a result of hockey. In theory, they can just stop paying him. Full cap relief would follow. Why haven’t the leafs done this? Douche-bag move to pull on someone with a medical condition? Sets a bad example for other free agents? Idk, but maybe the leafs try to do this whenr most of the contract has been paid out to Horton.

So, I think what KG is trying to say in his own special way: even though this is a non-hockey injury, because the blood clot issue is known, the leafs couldn’t do this to Stamkos, i.e. just stop paying him if the blood clot issue resurfaces.

They can always throw him on LTIR for the duration of the contract and get relief that way.
Salami_Tsunami
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 06.04.2016

Jun 8 @ 7:04 PM ET
Alright – I think I figured this out. KG was misusing the term insurance, I think.

So, within players’ contracts, a clause exists that allows teams to stop paying a player if they get injured outside of hockey…e.g. on their personal time.

It’s not really clear, but I think for Horton a team could try to claim Horton’s condition didn’t exist at the time of the contract signing and was not a result of hockey. In theory, they can just stop paying him. Full cap relief would follow. Why haven’t the leafs done this? Douche-bag move to pull on someone with a medical condition? Sets a bad example for other free agents? Idk, but maybe the leafs try to do this whenr most of the contract has been paid out to Horton.

So, I think what KG is trying to say in his own special way: even though this is a non-hockey injury, because the blood clot issue is known, the leafs couldn’t do this to Stamkos, i.e. just stop paying him if the blood clot issue resurfaces.

They can always throw him on LTIR for the duration of the contract and get relief that way.

- Tumbleweed


I don't know this at all. But one would think that those clauses would be for injuries incured while doing activities not related to hockey. Like for instance, breaking a leg in a skiing accident or something. But wouldn't or shouldn't include unforseen illnesses or diseases. Really not sure if what I'm saying has any basis in reality. But seems wienerish to be like "sorry you got cancer, but you didn't get that while playing hockey, so tough titties".
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 8 @ 7:11 PM ET
maybe the leafs should think to sign Matt Martin for his sandpaper ish play.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 8 @ 7:12 PM ET
I don't know this at all. But one would think that those clauses would be for injuries incured while doing activities not related to hockey. Like for instance, breaking a leg in a skiing accident or something. But wouldn't or shouldn't include unforseen illnesses or diseases. Really not sure if what I'm saying has any basis in reality. But seems wienerish to be like "sorry you got cancer, but you didn't get that while playing hockey, so tough titties".
- Salami_Tsunami


Agreed.

Again, the wording I saw didn’t specify. But sure seems like a douchey thing to do a player with a medical condition.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 8 @ 7:21 PM ET
Please God please let the Canucks trade the 5th overall for some more Erik Gudbranssons!!
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 8 @ 7:26 PM ET
maybe the leafs should think to sign Matt Martin for his sandpaper ish play.
- dmnted


I wouldn’t mind him…at the right price.

I think he’ll get overpaid. Better someone else to do that.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 8 @ 7:29 PM ET
Please God please let the Canucks trade the 5th overall for some more Erik Gudbranssons!!
- Arctic_AARDVARK


better yet ... just draft chychurn or brown at #5
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I take Joel for walks around the block, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 8 @ 7:33 PM ET
I wouldn’t mind him…at the right price.

I think he’ll get overpaid. Better someone else to do that.

- Tumbleweed

Yeah,

Don Cherry likes him so no thanks..
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 8 @ 7:42 PM ET
That's good. I was done arguing with you a long time ago when I proved you wrong on uninsured ltir.

I see that you've gone traditional hb route and posted links that don't support your stance and have no evidence to prove your stance and still told people they're wrong and should go read the cba. if nothing else you're entertaining.

Uninsured contracts can't be ltir'd........ And yet you keep coming back.

- burn



did you read it yet?

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 8 @ 8:12 PM ET
Alright – I think I figured this out. KG was misusing the term insurance, I think.

So, within players’ contracts, a clause exists that allows teams to stop paying a player if they get injured outside of hockey…e.g. on their personal time.

It’s not really clear, but I think for Horton a team could try to claim Horton’s condition didn’t exist at the time of the contract signing and was not a result of hockey. In theory, they can just stop paying him. Full cap relief would follow. Why haven’t the leafs done this? Douche-bag move to pull on someone with a medical condition? Sets a bad example for other free agents? Idk, but maybe the leafs try to do this whenr most of the contract has been paid out to Horton.

So, I think what KG is trying to say in his own special way: even though this is a non-hockey injury, because the blood clot issue is known, the leafs couldn’t do this to Stamkos, i.e. just stop paying him if the blood clot issue resurfaces.

They can always throw him on LTIR for the duration of the contract and get relief that way.

- Tumbleweed


How would the leafs do that to Horton though? How is it not a hockey injury.

And that's not what kg said at all.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 8 @ 8:16 PM ET
did you read it yet?
- Garnie



Read what? The part where he said uninsured contracts can't be put on ltir?
Toothgrinder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 02.13.2016

Jun 8 @ 8:41 PM ET
The insurance has everything to do with the money Columbus couldn't afford as a club to pay Horton for not playing had he been insured they would not have traded for clarkson
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 8 @ 8:50 PM ET
Read what? The part where he said uninsured contracts can't be put on ltir?
- burn



His last post, I'm not going to type it out.

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