Another side effect of the terrible Kesler deal. Losing guys like Anderson and Vatanen because of Ryan Keslers name value
- YuenglingJagr

Kesler has been very productive in last 2yrs, dig for a little info before u post...

Once again. Terrible Kesler deal? The ducks best overall player both ways and terrible deal? DUMB
- Orange_me_Black

This upcoming season is year one of his new contract. Really the only way to judge the contract is to see how well he maintains his level of play. If he can duplicate the last 2 years for the next 4, then a good contract. Anything above that is a great deal, anything less and not so good. Ducks couldn't/can't afford to lose him now. He brings too much to the table. He had to be resigned.

Kesler has been very productive in last 2yrs, dig for a little info before u post...
- Ur Not Me

Nice try, but signing players for 7 million well into their 30s on a budget team will only work one way. Keslers production is going to be weighed against the valuable players they will be forced to get rid of. More expensive than ROR and much older. Anyone who thinks that is a good contract is blind

Nice try, but signing players for 7 million well into their 30s on a budget team will only work one way. Keslers production is going to be weighed against the valuable players they will be forced to get rid of. More expensive than ROR and much older. Anyone who thinks that is a good contract is blind
- YuenglingJagr

It's relative. As I suggested, if his production for the next 4 years is comparable to the last 2, it's a fair contract. If he's better, it's a good contract, and if not, a bad one. The Ducks are rolling the dice and hoping the next FOUR years resemble the last 2. Ducks know in years 5 and 6 his production will probably drop. If they win a Cup in that period, money well spent regardless. Right now, the team couldn't afford to lose him. Period

The bonus is the team can afford (for now) to lose a "valuable" player because they have other "valuable" players ready to step in to replace them. Also remember the loss isn't without a gain (high draft pick, cap friendly player).

I don't think anyone is calling the contract a "good" one. Time will tell if it's good or bad. But to suggest the Ducks would be better today with Kesler off the team are "blind" to reality.

Nice try, but signing players for 7 million well into their 30s on a budget team will only work one way. Keslers production is going to be weighed against the valuable players they will be forced to get rid of. More expensive than ROR and much older. Anyone who thinks that is a good contract is blind
- YuenglingJagr

I won't say it's good . But at the time he signed it was nessary . If he became a free agent this year i think he would have got between 5 and 6 millliin for five years . Not 6 years for 6.5 . Its spilt milk though . We just have to watch our budget for the next 5 years .

Obviously it will be worth it if they win, but they need to be able to afford supporting players, not move on from them at the expense of him. I am obviously using my own foresight in the analysis, but with their younger players....it is not a deal I would have signed

Obviously it will be worth it if they win, but they need to be able to afford supporting players, not move on from them at the expense of him. I am obviously using my own foresight in the analysis, but with their younger players....it is not a deal I would have signed
- YuenglingJagr

Yep. I think one more bad contract or a few more bad trades and people will start wanting to fire bob murry . And the kesler contract will be exibit A when they do .

Obviously it will be worth it if they win, but they need to be able to afford supporting players, not move on from them at the expense of him. I am obviously using my own foresight in the analysis, but with their younger players....it is not a deal I would have signed
- YuenglingJagr

Thats why your team is the king of bad contracts.

The core pieces are their for a Stanley Cup contender. I think Murray understands this, which is why he's been aggressive on the trade front the past 18 months.

This team lost in the first round, and penalties played a role in the loss. The team had a culture of lack of judgment. Pat Maroon can be a great forechecker and finisher, but too often when he goes cold he resorts to dropping this mits. The same goes for Chris Stewart.

As for last season's trades and contracts, the Matt Belesky contract was a difficult situation where he had a fantastic year, and it was too much of a commitment. Kyle Palmieri just disappeared in the 2015 playoff run. Simon Despres had a difficult year last year. He probably doesn't remember much of this past season. Nevertheless, I think he'll have a huge rebound year with a longer summer and another season being coached by Scott Niedermayer.

Bob Murray has had it with fringe players and question marks. With the PP dominance, I'm certain Sami Vatanen will be back. Obviously Hampus Lindholm and Rickard Rakell are going to be resigned. Also, I though Perron fit in well.

For me, the core of Getzlaf, Perry, Kesler, Silfverberg, Cogliano, Rakell, Perron, Thompson, Ritchie, Garbutt up front, and Bieksa, Lindholm, Fowler, Vatanen, Despres and Manson on the blue line is a contender.

I hope GM BM invests in Rakell, Lindholm, Vatanen and Perron. All 16 of those players are difficult out on the ice. Now they need a coach that guides them instead of reacting to X,Y, and Z.

The money is there to keep all these players. If money is going to be saved it will be by foregoing Andersen. Also, I think Stoner will be bought out. This next month of signings is the culmination of the last 3 years of trades. I know those 16 players can find a way.

It would be nice if we had another goal scorer . Perron is not enough of a scoring threat too take some heat off of perry and getzlaf our only 2 consistent scoring threats . Heck . I don't think perrons better than rakell . And all teams do in the playoffs is try to shut down perry down and make other players on our team score goals . So in a perfect world we'd get another left wing scoring threat to balance that out . But it's not like they grow on tree's . So if perron takes a reasonable deal and doesn't want a no trade clause maybe we roll the dice . But i wouldn't do it .

Bob Murray has had it with fringe players and question marks. With the PP dominance, I'm certain Sami Vatanen will be back. Obviously Hampus Lindholm and Rickard Rakell are going to be resigned. Also, I though Perron fit in well.

For me, the core of Getzlaf, Perry, Kesler, Silfverberg, Cogliano, Rakell, Perron, Thompson, Ritchie, Garbutt up front, and Bieksa, Lindholm, Fowler, Vatanen, Despres and Manson on the blue line is a contender.

I hope GM BM invests in Rakell, Lindholm, Vatanen and Perron. All 16 of those players are difficult out on the ice. Now they need a coach that guides them instead of reacting to X,Y, and Z.

The money is there to keep all these players. If money is going to be saved it will be by foregoing Andersen. Also, I think Stoner will be bought out. This next month of signings is the culmination of the last 3 years of trades. I know those 16 players can find a way.
- IGotTheMemo

The money is not there to sign Lindholm, Vatanen, Rakell, Perron, a backup goalie and still fill out the depth. The Ducks only have roughly $10-$12 million to spend. No way all of Lindholm, Fowler and Vatanen are on the team next season. The Ducks cannot afford it. Theodore is a younger, cheaper option in the same mold. Also, no way Stoner is let go yet. He will be the 5th highest paid defender on the team next year, which is pretty low, and with one of the above 3 leaving (expansion might mean 2 defensemen are gone soon), there isn't anyone left to easily replace him, which means someone from outside the org would need to be brought in. Better to wait until next summer when Montour should be ready and even better to let his contract expire in 2 years (with Bieksa's) when Larsson and Pettersson will also be ready.

Thats why your team is the king of bad contracts.
- Orange_me_Black

Not with Hextall at the helm

Not with Hextall at the helm
- YuenglingJagr

True, but still riding out some of those brutal ones.

True, but still riding out some of those brutal ones.
- Orange_me_Black

There is one brutal one left...riding it out is over. If the ducks arent careful they will find themselves in the exact same position.

The Flyers "had" to trade JVR for defense, they "had" to sign a goalie and a defenseman, they "had" to replace Briere with a veteran scorer. There were some of us that saw the trainwreck happening before it was blatantly obvious to the rest of the NHL

Personally I'd like to see Stewart and Perron come back if possible, The first line of Stewart/Getzlaf/Perron was playing really well until Stewart broke his jaw. He was a different player when he came back wearing the extra protection, but I'd like to see another year of that line together.

With all the goalies on the market, both through FA and trade options I wonder how much Freddys trade value has decreased, he's still gotta be one of the top goalies available, if not the best. With Reimer and Fleury and Bishop among others being available can't help but wonder if we're not gonna get enough in return for Freddy if he gets traded.

Hopefully we can trade Stoner or Bieksa for anything, free up that cap space, maybe trade Bieksa to detroit for the datsyuk cap hit? Just a couple of thoughts
- letsgoducks

I THOUGHT WE SIGNED STEWART TO A 1 YEAR 1.9 MILLION DEAL ALREADY ?

I THOUGHT WE SIGNED STEWART TO A 1 YEAR 1.9 MILLION DEAL ALREADY ?
- rubberduckies

No.

check out generalfanager.com for contract information

No.

check out generalfanager.com for contract information
- quackup

I am a www.capfriendly.com guy myself

I am a www.capfriendly.com guy myself
- YuenglingJagr

Im calling my shot . I think randy carlyle will be the next head coach. But i think it should be trent yawney . I mean bob murry , under handed off the scoreboard , banked of a suite , nothing but randy carlyle . This whole waiting thing is nothing but a smoke screen .

what are you guys looking to get for vatanen?

What needs would you be looking to fill?

what are you guys looking to get for vatanen?

What needs would you be looking to fill?
- Tumbleweed

Vats for JVR would be a good start. You guys want Stoner too?

Vats for JVR would be a good start. You guys want Stoner too?
- CptAhab

I like your starting point. I’ll let you keep stoner.

Shouldn’t be much to add on either side to make that work…